Conspiracy Talk Archive February 10 2013

 

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10 Feb 2013 21:19:54
Did anyone spot this from the Guardian earlier this year?
IT's all about the millions the Vatican own in property, in the UK & how they keep it hidden that they own it and how it was funded by Mussonlini.

http://m. guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/21/vatican-secret-property-empire-mussolini

So, why do I need to give at any offertory again?

Khakipillowslip

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And not 18 hours after I posted this, the Pope resigns. coincidence, I think not.
Khakipillowslip

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Good shout khakipillowslip.

frankyscouse

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10 Feb 2013 21:06:47
Does anybody watch "a person of interest" at the start its very interesting what it says about the goverment building a machine that watches everybody.

Also

Did anybody watch "alcatraz"? the american goverment could do what's in the series?

Also I read the SAW films were based on actual crimes.

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10 Feb 2013 20:37:56
the funny thing people have been saying for years, I could eat a horse and they have haha

W

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10 Feb 2013 11:00:54
Does anybody on this site have an opinion on how the size of the population (global/domestic) plays a role in our ability to fairly control and distribute resources and wealth. If it does, then how do we ethically deal with the issue? I mean, will we ever expect to live in an honest and uncorrupted society while we (the ordinary people) have to compete and argue so hard for our proportionate share of what is produced by us within the economy. How can we continue to allow the current situation to continue, where the few take what they want, by increasing the burden on the masses from a shrinking pot. Is the human race intelligent enough to address this, without creating false wars and diseases?

Sev.

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Even thou the size of the population is increasing I read somewhere that if the richest 5 per cent elite put there money together, everyone in the world could live a comfortable life, to me we will always live in a corrupt society, its always gone on and will always go on, to me the question is we all know its unfair but we moan about it then end up still paying them these corrupt taxes but when do we say NO,?ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? a bit like a bully at school giving a kid a smack every day which he accepts because he think he can not stand up to him, then the days comes in he's head enough is enough, hopefully that day will come soon my friends.

frankyscouse

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How about the Labour party in Britain adopting a policy where everything in a dead persons estate over the value of half a million pounds, including lands and estates be returned to the exchequer. The funds created to be used for social projects like education (vocational apprenticeships for non-academic youngsters). Could the recent tax avoidance hearings be used as a platform to build from.

Sev. {Ed001's Note - is that per claimant or just in total half a million? Only spreading it between a lot of descendants would spread it out too, but still allow a parent to help their kids.}

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Labour/conservatives/liberal makes no difference, what we need is a independent who can grab the peoples imagination, to me it has to be a public figurehead, a bit like Jesse ventura in the usa, hopefully ventura will run for election in 2015 {i think}but like he said he needs the public behind him or its not worth it, I am trying to think of a equivalent figurehead from this country any ideas?

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - is this your way of hinting franky? Not sure I have the time to stand, but I will consider it for you.....}

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Scratched you off my list edd now now bk to the drawing board.

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I know I would have been first choice, but I am sure you can find someone else.}

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I need help for this one it has to be a man or woman of the people iconic intelligent top 3 suggestions anyone? i will give my top 3 later on tonight, let's see if were all on the same page. this is open to you edds as well.

frankyscouse

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I tell you what edd it is bloody hard to think of 1 never mind 3,.

frankyscouse {Ed033's Note - I know, Brian Gerrish (http://www.ukcolumn.org) would be on my list but most people don't know who that is

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It would be a start if the Labour party stopped neglecting its core voters and had some policies for the working class. Ed miliband is useless and needs to go, although I was against him from the minute he started moaning about "middle Britain" and going on about the poor middle classes. Worst Labour leader since Foot and at least he had an idea, Ed miliband seems totally cluless at times look at the batterings he gets every week at question time. And Balls is no better sitting there all smug when it was him and Brown that largely got us into this mess! Tory double agents the lot of them!

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly, Ed miliband's nick name in politics is, Forest Gump.

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Edd its going to have to be you and edd33 and me as your understudy, I really can't think of anyone, they need to be iconic as a beckham the working class values as a carra and maybe a politician who can read in between the lines like a galloway.

frankyscouse

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Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
Boris Johnson
LP

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Ed33 I can well believe it, but at least Gump was a likeable character.

Franky, I don't get the Galloway thing, he just does stuff to be controversial so then it gets him publicity, anyone who goes around calling himself Saddam's best mate, or pretending to be a cat on big brother isn't really fit to speak for the people.

Lp I do like Boris he's entertaining but wouldn't trust him to run things, I dunno, could be an act.

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Boris johnson proves a attention seeking fool who has a privileged upbringing and who goes to the right public school can get himself anywhere near politics shows how messed up our system is, yes totally agree about Brian gerrish. its a pity he was not a ex-england football captain who scored the winning goal in the world cup final.

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - How about, 1. Brian Gerrish, 2. Ian R. Crane, 3. Richard D. Hall?

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I would like to suggest Rob Newman, Clever man

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The reason Galloway gets my vote even thou he might like the limelight is anyone who goes to Washington and stands he's ground is ok by me
since there is no one iconic here is my 3
gerrish
ben elton
ricky tomlinson

a mixed bunch I know.

frankyscouse

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Yes but Boris is a likeable fool!
LP

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11 Feb 2013 00:00:49
But his standing up to the yanks was just him trying to look good in the limelight again. I'd rather british politicians stood up to brussels a bit more. I've no problem with public school boys running for politics, and its not just tories either labour are as bad for it. The problems are a lack of transparency and the rise of a professional political class who think they know everything but have no experience of real life. Cameron is a posh boy, posh school, top uni, only worked in politics no real world experience. But Miliband is just as bad, posh boy, posh school, top uni, only ever worked in politics. Both are millionaires. So what's the difference. Now don't get me wrong, i'm from a mining family, five generations labour supporters all down the pit so thatcher isn't popular. But she came from ordinary background, knew real life, etc etc before she went lunatic. Who in politics today has had any sort of exposure to real life? Who today genuinely speaks for the people?

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Likable Lp? I hate to see who you hate then.

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - I detest that vile piece of **** Johnson, he is one **** I would enjoy seeing get his comeuppance. There is nothing foolish about him, though he does like to fool people into thinking he is a fool. The man is scum, end of.}

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Could not agree more edd about johnson as for the guy with no name on about galloway loving the limelight like I said I am not disagreeing with you but he can smell the bs on why we are in the middle east and did stand up to them which I admire, you seem to be missing the point of the post I am not saying miliband is better than cameron or vice versa, I don't trust any of them hence who we would have running the country in a perfect world, so the floor is yours mr anonymous poster your top 3 people in a perfect world would be?

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - obviously I will be top of everyone's list, so make it top 3 other than me to keep it interesting.....}

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Ha ha ok feller.

frankyscouse

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11 Feb 2013 18:57:58
Franky i've been thinking long and hard over the last 24 hours and the best I can come up with is maybe a dog or a cat or something. A cat could get a bit sneaky mind you. I've known many a noble and dignified dog that didn't need to announce itself as such.
The dog gets my vote. pea

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12 Feb 2013 15:11:19
PS every researcher worth their salt knows number 1 is not as important as number 2 ;-) pea

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The size of population matters not a jot to the distribution of wealth, the d of w has been organised throughout history by monarchs and land barons warring with each other for power and once pple have consolidated that power they have placed their allies in prominent positions to solidify their own.
As for who i'd like to be runnin the country i'd say robert fisk as the middle east is the most important factor in the world atm and he's hated by the mainstream media and left and right politicians so he must be doing something right.
Ps watched a vice video about a cult leader in siberia who thinks he's god wondering if anyone else had heard of this or knew any links to more info cheers
Agent orange

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10 Feb 2013 08:55:24
eds and others do you think the horse meat scandal in food in ireland was a madia cover story so the goverment could dothe bonds deal with europe and banks and it would not seem so bad for the irish people
pat the baker

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09 Feb 2013 23:54:22
watchinhg yukon men, have to admire them, if the world ever goes in to turmoil over currency I want to be a yukon lol.

frankyscouse

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