Conspiracy Talk Archive November 11 2011

 

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11 Nov 2011 23:10:46
Ed033 i know you've gone through this subject before but what do you think is suppose to happen in 2012? i may be wrong but i remember reading a while back that the sun recahes the end of its cycle or somthing..... sorry Ed about this.

Azza

{Ed033's Note - {Ed033's Note - The precession of the Equinoxes is recognised by "scientists" as being 25,900 years. This is the number of years it takes for the sun to go around the 12 zodiac constellations. However as a side note, these "scientists" who believe this number are now perplexed because this precession appears to be speeding up and they don't know why. But the reason for the speeding up of the precession is because this solar system is most likely a binary star system and when the other sun starts to approach this solar system, the forces between the 2 stars causes our solar system to speed up it's journey around the 12 zodiac constellations. So the number of years maybe closer to 24,000 years or varies between 23000 and 27000 years. So the starting place for this precessional year count is where the sun lines up directly with the centre of the Milky Way galaxy i.e the sun conjuncts with the galactic equator. Apparently on 21 December 2012 the sun will end this precessional cycle and start again, like it has done for possibly millions of years. Some people refer to this as the Mayan long count. So all 21 december 2011 is, is that the sun has completed another cycle through the zodiac constellations and going to start a new cycle around the 12 zodiac constellations. Or at least that is the way I see it at the moment. I may change my mind as we all do as I learn more.

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11 Nov 2011 19:18:31
You know someone on here asked if Ed033 thought everything was a conspiracy, even if everything you have been told was true at least this site opened your mind a little, maybe even challenged your beliefs.

Because if we do not sit up and take notice of the world around us, broaden our minds in a search for knowledge and most of all truth then all is truly lost.
People are starting to realize that the system is wrong it keeps the 'elite' rich and leaves the rest of us fighting among ourselves due to their tools of manipulation, weather it be religion, race or politics. The average person on the street can't change the world, but if everyone was to take a stand for what is right that force would be unstoppable.

always a red {Ed033's Note - People need to realise that the people come first not companies / crown corporation. The electrical chain store Comet went bankrupt and was bought for £2. All we have to do is let the banks/financial institutions go bankrupt and then if the state believes the financial institution/bank is useful to the people then the state can buy it for £2. With banks we could then throw out the gambling debts known as derivatives but honour the genuine non-gambling/non derivative debt.

We could also decide like Norway that the natural resources of this country belong to the people and not companies / crown corporation, then the people could enjoy a share of the profits in the natural resources and have much lower energy bills as well. We should at least copy Norway - www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU

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Well said edd,once the unions power got taken away by thatcher it has just escalated,we should be more like the french ,if they dont like anything the barricade the roads airports everything, they all stick together, a bit like us many years ago.
frankyscouser

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Agree 100% ed033

Azza

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Very well said , although politics are more than a tool of manipulation in some countries.
There is a fake left/right paradigm in the U.S
(where their is no left) and sadly to some extent
in this country .
Apathy seems to be the problem ,i think its a sense of helplessness against such powerful institutions plays a major role for those who do care.
All we can do is be the biggest pain in the arse to the elite¯ when the opportunity arises .

And learn to say NO again.

JR

{Ed033's Note - We could start with parents saying to their children, something like, "people come first before any corporation" and then when children grow up and when they see people not being put first then whoever isn't putting the people first should be told to leave their position i.e. politicians. With that amount of people telling that person to leave their position, they will go pretty quickly. So the only people who stay in their position of power would be the person who puts the people first.}

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Ed some good ideas but in practice it is not realistic or workable as long as the powers that be continue to control the supply of money into the system...they print the £££ and $$$ so will continue to monopolise every facet of society.

The most realistic chance we have of overthrowing the zionist led banking institution is by electing somebody into power who will sign off the necessary bills so that the consitution regain control of the banking system. This is the only conceivable way of defeating the elite but even this is an impossible task as whoever we elected into power would eventually be killed off lincoln and kennedy style.

JR is right, we are completely helpless and there's nothing we can do but spread the word and wake people up from their apathetic comotose states.

Leo

{Ed033's Note - Certainly my comments won't work at the moment but so far no one else has come up with anything that will either but the NWO agenda is incompatible with people being comfortable and when people become very uncomfortable, they will wake up.}

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Have to agree with leo, its gonna take extreme measures like gaddafi proportions .
frankyscouser

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Ed you're so right. That is why mot

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I think the jews, zionists, freemasons, illuminati or however you choose to categorise them know something about our existence that we do not. I think if i knew that life was just a program or a game or a dream or that there were no repercussions for negative behaviour i.e. karma, hell then I would probably be selfish, money hungry, devoid of empathy for others and generally not give a care about anyone or anything just as they dont.

I reckon the powers that be have knowledge that life is not that important hence why they have absolutely no concern about the welfare of the population or the planet and are only concerned with personal gain and personal gratification.

They have created the illusion that life is important using religion and media, they have also created the illusion that we need money to survive and have forced us into paid slavery which is what essentially every working person is.

Leo

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My worry Ed , is that if the mass population only start making a stand when they are VERY
uncomfortable , then its probably too late.

JR

{Ed033's Note - I am optimistic that it won't be too late.}

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11 Nov 2011 16:51:03
for everyone who comes on this page , most of the subjects we talk about can be found on youtube on the following-
veritas radio show
red ice radio
coast to coast am
you will always find something thats interesting , most of the shows are uploaded daily.............lfc

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Do you have to pay for coast to coast?

MJ

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Mj, you can subscribe to coast to coast and red ice , but i just use you-tube , just put in coast to coast am if you want to subscribe in google , go to their site...........lfc

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Lol. All through the last 6 weeks, when the world has been spiralling into oblivion, c2c has been banging on about really stupid things and refusing to address anything worthwhile. I've given up on it. There are bigger things in the world than bigfoot right now.

Len

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11 Nov 2011 02:28:30
How did the world start Eds in your view?

{Ed033's Note - This is obviously a tough one but Galaxies are themselves a type of living entity. Galaxies seem to take energy/matter and form suns and planets. Suns live for a certain length of time then either explode or change to a brown dwarf or a planet. Planet Saturn was possibly a sun at some point in the past. Planets and moons that are still "alive" grow in size over time - see this video here - www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&feature=related

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Ed033,i agree,the universe is a large living,evolving,melting pot.but in my humble opinion it is all by design.now im not a religious person but the notion of creation seems to press all the buttons for me.infact the science that works correctly on earth doesnt seem to tally anymore once we go beyond our blue pearl.creation hmm! makes sense to me
trev the gooner

{Ed033's Note - there is more to what I said. Suns and planets communicate with each other. There are intelligent energy signals going through the galaxies which cause certain changes such as genetic changes in living entities. Possibly every galaxy receives these intelligent energy signals from a source, a source which could be called God. Keith Hunter talking about planets communicating with each other - www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=62&part=1}

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11 Nov 2011 13:40:16
had some problems with my wireliss on my laptop and my isp virginmedia told me to put to put my earthnet in while he looks at my laptop setting remotely from hes end,it was freaky watching him move my mouse around looking at my settings,if this is common now for mainstream companies then its must have been around 20 years ago,any1 can look into any computer and there are no secrets anymore, big brother is deffo watching.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - exactly and it still begs the question of if they know everything about everyone then why doesn't crime drop for those who don't believe in conspiracies?

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You know why they wont stop the crime rate edd,they want it to get that bad in inter city areas that we end up killing ourselves and take away more of our libertys .
frankyscouse

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Its exactly because we have governments and so called society that gives us liberty.its not perfect nor ever will be,after all we are human!.and what are humans?.dont start me on that one,at least a virus doesnt turn on itself at every opertunity like us,we even do it for kicks.ffs a virus doesnt even intend to kill its host,its usually underlyeing medical problems causes that.unlike us who will poison are air,water,food source.why?theres any number of reasons why,but mainly because we can.conspiracy theorists!.certainly not all,but generally i find them bored,mistrusting,paranoid,ungreatfull,
mischief makers who have very little to offer society only confusion,turmoil and anxciety.but hey! after all we are human
trev the gooner

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Trev its ok to have governments if you truly believe they are trying to do there best for there people or the world in general ,i dont doubt there are 80 per cent of mps around the world who are here trying to there best but unfortunately they are getting told what to do by the greedy few.
frankyscouse

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Ever heard of crossloop?

Len

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11 Nov 2011 10:32:03
Have any of the regulars or Eds (or non-regulars for that matter) ever seen a ufo ?
I saw something in 1990 quite briefly, my mate saw it too but would not admit it
in front of the rest of the lads. I lhave hardly ever mentioned it since.

JR

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Jr i seen two things one in liverpool last year that i could not explaine(i am no expert by any means, but it was deffo not a star as it was moving and i seen enough planes as john lennon airport is only a few miles away, couls it have been military ? possibly , it made no noise it was at night so it stood out, i tried to to video it on my phone but its s**te, 2nd time i seen something weird was in portugal in july, was in a big villa with family and friends and seen this blue ish light shoot up from the ground and into the sky gone out of sight.Could it have been a firework ?maybe it was the fastest firework ive ever seen, could it have been a light maybe and i did have a couple of drinks but wernt drunk.
frankyscouse

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1 year ago i saw a bright blue object flying above my house only to disapear completely within the space of 5 seconds. If you look to the stars your bound to see a ufo.

Azza

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I actually saw something the other night here in Ireland...was driving on the outskirts of a town called Mullingar in the centre of Ireland and i noticed a real big orange light moving across the sky just in front of me!!i kept one eye on it and one eye on the traffic...it seemed to be really low and when i got a chance to look at it properly i could see thet there was no flashing lights on it which would be on a helicopter or plane and in the moonlight i could see the silouette of the thing...the orange light seemed to be in the centre of the bottom of a kind of triangulary shaped object with squared off ends...im not saying it was a ufo or anything but never saw anything like it before!!
PmacC

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If it was mullingar it was probally something going on in dalton park or grange ! prob some knacker trowin fireworks !

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Haha...itd want to be some throw to keep it in the air for that long!!
PmacC

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Jr , never seen nothing in the sky , but was walking home one night , seen a blue light move across hedges , of a garden , looked around to see if anyone was useing a touch or something , but no one anywhere , the light was like a soft blue , the closest thing i can think of is a orb just floating, it only lasted a few secounds , would love to see one of the ones people talk about in the sky , maybe one day............lfc

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I'm not far from speke airport myself, what i saw
was near Runcorn/Frodsham , stationary ,lit-up
and very big, i was in a moving car going down
hill behind a steep embankment, i only had a
second or 2 to observe it.
It did not look like a conventional aircraft.
No drugs had been taken.

JR

{Ed033's Note - There is no question that there are UFO's the only question is whether all of them are craft containing human beings or some of the UFO's are something different to craft containing human beings.}

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I deffo think 98 per cent of ufos nowdays are military reversed enginering , but the the 2per cent deffo alien.
frankyscouse

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When I was young I saw something unexplained, must have been 20+ years ago, I was on a coach in London when I saw an egg shaped object in the night sky. It was seperated in two halves with one side flashing on while the other was off, very odd.

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11 Nov 2011 08:42:16
eds I had a question up last night ref Jews in power it was up last night and had a reply now I cant find it.

What happened?


Lurgan Red {Ed001's Note - it was removed because of the replies it was garnering, the thread I mean. The trouble with topics regarding Jewish people, is that they attract lots of the neo-Nazi idiots spouting lies. The simple answer is, initially they allowed it to happen, allowed themselves to be oppressed to help their cause. But they weren't expecting the consequences to be quite as they were, no one did. I am quite sure they would have done things differently if they had known exactly what was going to happen. But then I am sure there were lots of people around at the time who could say the same thing.}

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Thanks ed I thought the way I asked the question wouldnt of started a row it was a genuine query.

Thanks again {Ed001's Note - Ed033 put a quick reply but unfortunately people assumed he meant it in the wrong way. That's the problem with quick replies, no one can tell the full meaning by text, they don't know you as a person either, so they tend to jump to assumptions. That is what stirred up the idiots, and a few none idiots before some of those who replied think I mean them!}

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Israel was created in 1948. The Balfour agreement was made in 1916. You have enough info there to understand whats going on.

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11 Nov 2011 02:52:35
theres a good show to listen to on coast to coast am - steve quayle- the truth about nephilim gaints - ,its one of his early shows and touches on fallen angles , ancient man , annunaki , sumerians , how serect projects are working on cross breeding humans and aminals , even bringing back people from the past though dna , very interesting , theres lots of his stuff on the net , but this show is a good place to start if anyones interested..............lfc

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Cheers lfc do u listen to site of the net? and if so can u send the link? plus wat time does it start uk time?
cheers frankyscouse

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Frankyscouse , they are on youtube , most of the shows get uploaded on there , theres loads of shows to listen to , just type in coast to coast am november 2011 on youtube , go through the pages .............lfc

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Cheers bud will check it out.
frankyscouse

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I checked out coast to coast show on youtube, was good , jim marrs was being interveiwed , cheers lfc.
frankyscouse

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11 Nov 2011 00:09:53
Is the world going to end in 2012 eds?

{Ed033's Note - of course not. People were asking the same question about the year 2000 A.D. and allegedly in the year 1000 A.D. and at various dates between 1000 A.D. and 2011 A.D.

Book publishers get people to promulgate false rumours of the end of the world because it sells a lot of books.}

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Come on edd, dont lie....of course its gonna end......gonna nip down coral and slip a bet on it not ending just in case though...

matty b

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I dont think it will end but i think something big is going to happen,jellystone park, official first contact with aliens,nwa martial law all over the world,or our technology getting wiped out by the rays of the sun which would set a panic across the devolped countries, something on those lines,i am a gloomy fooker arnt i?
frankyscouser

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Theres all these new adverts to do with 2012. The most recent one being the lynx 2012 advert of a long line of people walking towards a boat(Noahs Ark)................

Azza {Ed033's Note - From now on companies are going to fill us with this 2012 stuff for marketing purposes and even ritual purposes in an attempt to get on the 2012 bandwagon so their company name gets associated with 2012 to make extra profits.}

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Lol Mattey b your right, we may aswell go down and put big money on it, its a win win situation. we could either all die or gain big money lol

Azza {Ed033's Note - Exactly but who is offering that bet. The only problem with it is that a bet with the bookmakers is just a gentleman's agreement so doesn't have to be honoured. A betting company could take bets then declare bankruptcy if it goes against them, then come back with a slightly different name and carry on but you just lost all of your money on the bet.}

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When the x factor starts you see a beam from space hitting london.
frankyscouse

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Have I missed something somewhere but why 2012.

Lurgan red

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Because thats when the mayan calender ends, is that right ed?
huddz red {Ed001's Note - no, that was when someone said that it ended, it is one of those urban myths.}

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