Conspiracy Talk Archive October 11 2011

 

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11 Oct 2011 20:22:21
The US authorities say they have foiled an "Iranian-backed" plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador and to bomb the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington DC.

And so it begins the next wave of war mongering, the people are starting to wake up and realize things are very wrong seen by the demonstrations in America, fox news is trying its best to ridicule these people standing up for what they believe in so i urge you to take notice as the day will come soon for us in this country to do the same. And i don't mean the moronic rioting seen the other month, but showing the people responsible for the currant climate of the world we will take no more.

The powers that be will start another war in Iran it has been inevitable for so many years now, but this time it is very important you don't get whipped up in to another frenzy of hating every Muslim in the street. They employ divide and conquer to over power the masses using their tool religion to turn the average man on the street against each other. Its vital we all see through the lies and stand together.

always a red

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A few comments on this:

1. If you watch the news coverage on RT (Russia Today) you will get far more news on the Wall Street and other cities protests in the US. Not particularly balanced coverage but interesting.

2. A war in or against Iran is inevitable in my opinion and to be honest is long overdue, approximately 10 years overdue. Yes that does equate to the amount of time we have been in Afghanistan. I for one would be much more inclined to a war against the Saudi's but lets face it that is never going to happen.

3. Islam like almost every other religion has it's good elements and it's not so good elements. I don't think it is any better or worse than the others. The demonisation of any religion is bound to cause radicalism in its adherents.

Just my thoughts.

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Well said Always a red . This ˜Iranian terror plot'
was no doubt conceived of in the offices of the
CIA , i heard it on BBC 5 live last night with no
questioning of pentagon's version of events.
Boycott the BBC (MOTD allowed ) watch RT instead.
Cheers
JR

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On your point 2 they had to go into Afghanistan first due to its strategic value and now they need to clear a safe passage between Afghanistan and Iraq. The propaganda campaign against Iran will intensify causing people to cry out for something to be done, only this time i don't think they need to use a terrorist attack as a reason for war.
I feel America is trying to gain a strong foothold in the middle east not just for oil but to use as a striking point against China when they start defaulting on the debt payments.

always a red

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I'd just like to asj "just my thoughts" on why he thinks a war against Iran is long overdue....

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Funny that the last we heard from Afterdinnermint was when half the UN walked out on his speech about 11/9/2001

Len

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11 Oct 2011 19:36:00
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11 Oct 2011 14:21:33
Can someone explain dark matter to me please - read it on google and its done my head no favours

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Yes , god because i dont think anyone else has a clue........lfc

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My head hurts.............. ;-)

Padawan {Ed007's Note - I only lasted five minutes reading it as well.}

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No scientists actually know what is is

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Its matter and its dark....

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In situations like this, turn to Sir Patrick Moore for a more palatable explaination of the concept.

Digging for dark matter. www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/realmedia/sky_at_night_apr04.ram

Glorious Galaxies.
www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/science/space/realmedia/skyatnight_may06?size=16x9&bgc=000000&nbram=1&bbram=1

Paragon

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Don't they use dark matter to power sub light engines? Or is it dark matter to power faster than light engines? I forget

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Dark Matter is a form of matter which we don't know to much about, in a nutshell what we know about it is that if it reacts with matter (which is everything) then the universe will literally tear apart, and that a piece the size of a grain of sand is heavy enough to out way the entire universe.

We have made Dark Matter, but in such small amounts that once they are formed they are met by regular matter and instantaneously implode.

The Moon. {Ed033's Note - I think you're confusing dark matter with anti-matter and then exaggerating.}

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My bad Ed, I believe I have. and all of the information I've got has been from documentaries and books over the years, I even looked back through a few of them when writing the post about what it is and what they are capable of. so if it is exaggerated it's by the authors/documentary producers and not myself.

The Moon. {Ed033's Note - The exaggeration i was referring to was when you said "a piece the size of a grain of sand is heavy enough to out way the entire universe" obviously, I could be wrong but this seems an exaggeration.}

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That bit was from a documentary i was watching, they said something along the lines of, the universe was created by a piece of anti matter the size of a grain of sand so it is possible that when anti matter reacts with matter it will cause an implosion/explosion capable of destroying the entire universe.

Either they said that, or I misunderstood something.

I'll try and find out what the doc was.

The Moon.

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So no one really knows LOL........

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11 Oct 2011 11:40:41
to the guy asking why they didn't capture bin laden how do we know he's dead? They never released the photo's. They supposedly buried him at sea. Easy to fake. For all we know he's at a secure compound singing like a canary. Imagine the media and public if they'd announced they'd captured him. Haven't a couple of top terrorists been killed in recent weeks? Some in pakistan and the guy in yemen? They'll suck his brains out and quietly off him. Or maybe as the ed said he was cia and it was a rescue mission and he's being debriefed

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Equally as probable, he has been dead for a number of years.

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Or that he is a paid American agent that has been "retired". {Ed033's Note - In 2007 just before she was assassinated, Benazir Bhutto said in an interview with David Frost, that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiUjhsEAK4&feature=related

In addition someone faked a picture of Osama Bin Laden dead in 2011 which was broadcasted on Pakistani television and shown by certain British newspapers as genuine - www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

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{Ed033's Note - In July 2001 before 9/11, Bin Laden was in a Dubai hospital with kidney trouble where an alleged CIA agent met with him - www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism.

Also, Barack Obama's popularity was the lowest possibly of any President in recent history just before the alleged shooting of Osama bin laden. The shooting was possibly an attempt to boost Obama's popularity. If that shooting in 2011 was real they would have shown bin laden's body I think.}

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As i said maybe he was cia, and they had to retrieve him to debrief him. {Ed033's Note - I don't know but my guess is that osama bin laden died a number of years ago and that is why we never saw his body after they allegedly shot him in 2011. Bin laden can't be used as the bogey man again so what use is he to the CIA now assuming you are correct?}

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Ok Ed 4 theories then.

1. What happened was true and he was tracked to Pakistan and killed.

2. He was tracked to pakistan, captured, with a fake kill notice, and since been interrogated and disposed of.

3. He was a cia operative who needed to be retrieved and debriefed so they could get his intell.

4. He actually died years ago and this was covered up.

End of the day i doubt we'll ever know the truth and you can make a good case for all of 2,3, or 4, they are all possible or even some sort of combo. {Ed033's Note - OK, I plump for number 4.}

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If number 4 were true why would no terrorist have come out and said he diead ages ago, Al Jasera (spelling?) would surely have had some story on this? {Ed033's Note - Al Jazeera is not an independent news agency. It is run by an American government agency. So you get to hear what the American government agency wants you to hear. Can you imagine an independent Arab news agency giving you the truth? It wouldn't be allowed would it.

There were a number of rumours that Osama Bin Laden died before 2011 and I just gave one example above with the Benazir Bhutto interview with David Frost.

Also when you see someone speaking Arabic on the TV such as the BBC and there is a translation into English. Some of the time that translation is no where near the correct translation. This way you don't hear what the people speaking Arabic are really saying.

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11 Oct 2011 11:23:08
has anyone seen the obama video on you tube where "yes we can" when played backwards sounds like "thank you satan" the first two words do sound like thank you not sure on the third word. Freaky though listening to him saying it then the crowd then you hear it backwards. How does that work its really bizarre. Freaky if true!

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Here is the video, have a watch and let me know what you think.

youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs

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Ok had a look found couple more

youtube.com/watch?v=9NUhkWFsatU&feature=related

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Bonkers!

If you play Black Sabbath at 78 speed you'll see god!...Sorry couldn't resist, old Cheech and Chong gag.

Although the subtitle translation is a little ambiguous in the clip from the link in the post above, it is quite un-nerving.

Paragon

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Paragon, i tripped over that first video the other day whilst looking for something. Had a watch and slept on it for a couple of days. To be honest it creeped me out a little. As i said in my first post i'm not entirely sure on the 3rd word but the first 2 are "thank you" hearing him say it then the crowd repeating it back is really creepy. I was just wondering if this was some sort of bizarre conincidence or if it was something more. thank you for viewing.

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Should be able to test it myself / yourself and see if its coincedence or if you need choice wording and phrasing.

Still, the demonic undertone of this reverse speech stuff has certainly whet my appetite.

Paragon

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Ok well try this one as well.

youtube.com/watch?v=V-TMKUea87E

again, its a bit unclear and i think its open to interpretation, maybe its like those images where the mind see's something we're pre programmed to see like faces in clouds etc. except the brain is hearing things.

either way its curious.

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That is some creepy stuff

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11 Oct 2011 09:23:16
Seen a great YouTube conference who was the only person (up to now) who could prove with over thirty peices of documentation that he worked at area 51 (not bob lazar) I think hes name was ed fouche, he has said 90pc of ufo sightings are ours I won't spoil what he said about the rest of the stuff he said it is very interesting,would love any feedback of you guys, cheers franky scouser

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11 Oct 2011 02:28:38
everyone should check out the video on youtube- who controls the world illuminati,jesuits,bilderberg,church,skull and bones,religion,the pope, a very good video about 43 mins or so..............lfc

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Cheers mate I'll check this out, Raz

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