Conspiracy Talk Archive October 13 2011

 

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13 Oct 2011 23:17:50
Something which has been running around in my head a bit...people talk of aliens sharing technology with humans...im not too sure what to think of this though...if they are then it would appear that they are sharing it only with the military...if it was for the good of the human race surely they would see that the technology they are sharing is only being used against other humans and not being used to better the world...which makes me think that either there is no sharing of technology by aliens or if there is then they have an agenda as they are providing us apparently with only the means of killing ourselves more efficiently!! me just thinking out loud but would make you think if there is contact and technology being shared why is it just with militarys?
PmacC

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GOD=GOLD-OIL-DRUGS

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I've thought about that a lot as well, but my thinking is that the technology has been left here for centuries in ancient texts. so the government find these texts, keep it a secret and then use them for the benefit of their military.

or, we're getting information from other races but the government are managing to cover it up.

Something must be going on though, within 150 years we've gone from gas powered street lamps to rockets, Cars, Mobile Phones, etc.


The Moon.

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Yeah,that makes sense "The Moon", there is clearly something going on...imagine if these scientists working in the military were actually allowed work on these projects in the public arena and how much the world would be transformed!!the military leaders and black project heads though must be fairly F**ced up to be keeping it all secret and using it for negative use rather than positive!! perhaps the reason that there are so many sightings of ufos recently and they are becoming more spectacular in nature is that they are monitoring the technological advances of these militaries...they can see that they have gotten their hands on some of their technology and they can see that the technology is being used negatively!!seems like they are monitoring the way we live...no intervention or anything but they do seem to be seen around military bases and installations!!

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The illumnati and major players are in contact with e.t's regularly, sharing info etc, theres probably some sort of deal/agreement between to 2 to control, soften and lower the population in preperation for a big upcoming event so theres less chance of a rebellion, the last thing they want is a switched on, free thinking public with access to world changing new technologies,

The Revoloution

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I couldn't agree more, although we're sitting here saying how much that would help the public world with technological advances but by the same token the military may thinking that if another country learns about this technology they could use it against us.

similar to the stories about the small pox virus still existing on various labs around the world due to fear over attacks from places which may have kept samples.

I hate how our civilisation just revolves around war and conflict though.

The Moon.

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I watched a brilliant presentation by Richard Dolan on youtube the link was posted by one of the ed's further down the page. He said if they were to share their technology it would render petroleum useless costing them trillions of dollars, you have to understand these people see us as nothing more than worker ants not worthy of there time. The corruption runs very very deep, if you have time look out for the video some shocking stuff.

always a red

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I did have a conversation with Ed001 back when i first started coming on here about the examples of advanced tech used back in prehistory, the bible etc.

For example we both think that the whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing was an example of atomic weaponry. ED001 said he thinks Noah's ark was achieved by them taking on aboard genetic samples, dna and etc. And also Ed gave some examples of pre historic people surviving brain surgery which means they must have had at least the knowledge.

I'll throw in another to that, the story of Adam and Eve, Eve being created from Adam's rib. Cloning anyone?

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A few links

ancient-wisdom.co.uk/surgery.htm

unknowncountry.com/news/prehistoric-brain-surgery

library.thinkquest.org/C0110299/brain/surgery.php?page=surgery1

accuracyingenesis.com/sodom.html

bib-arch.org/e-features/sodom-and-gomorrah.asp

jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id44.html

jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id9.html

alkaif.geek.nz/blog/noahs-ark-a-dna-bank/

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13 Oct 2011 21:40:49
Does God exist? i think people take it to seriously in some religions i.e not drinking smoking scared of what 'God' will do when they die the whole Heaven and Hell thing,EDS are you belivers? {Ed001's Note - personally I am an atheist.}

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Big bang theory then ED001? {Ed001's Note - what about it?}

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How do you think the world started then : ) {Ed001's Note - oh right, no idea mate, I have not seen anything that has convinced me one way or the other with regards to that.}

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If i may give my input into the creation of the universe? I personally believe in the 'M theory' as being the prime candidate. it answers all the questions about a time before time, etc.

As for is there a god? I really don't have a clue. mainstream religion i believe is rubbish, however the stories about the monks who live in mountains and have managed to put themselves into a state where they can transport outside their bodies seems a little odd, especially when to my knowledge nobody has proven that they can't do this.

The moon.

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I drift somewhere between agnostic and athiest
but i really hope that there is some sort of karma / reincarnation thing going on, this way
when i come back as a fooked -up battery hen
i'll be squashed within eye pecking distance
of Thatcher ,Kissinger, Rothchild and the rest of the self-proclaimed śresponsible people'.
Maybe i'm eggnostic.
JR

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The Moon, that is an interesting point. I am curious how these monks get into their states. Sometimes it is through drugs, sometimes through meditation, sometimes both. One thing I will say is that when taking Ketamin you can have an outer body experience where you feel like your inner being if you like has just floated off and you go with it - your thought processes are 100% fine though. Still thinking clearly, assessing what you 'see', but physically the body doesn't work too well. So I do believe that there is easily a way these monks say they experience this, the human brain is deffo capable of entering that state, be it through drugs, meditation, training, or things like near-death experiences.

I also am atheist though. I think he word Blasphemy' is utterly vindictive - it is laced with guilt more than any other word in the world IMO. What you do as a living biological being has absolutely no impact on what your soul does. I believe this to the point where it pisses me off that others don't, even though I have to respect their beliefs.
I believe that there are a few equally sensible theories for creation, but I 100% believe that any God that does exist is a biological entity of some form or other and therefore not a god in the sense that is considered these days.

Raz

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I think it all comes down to what was "before".

If it was all a speck of matter the size of a piece of dust and it exploded then where did the speck come from? What was there before? What caused it to explode?

If Genesis is correct, then where did God come from? Again what was there before? How did God come into being?

Mort

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As for Monks i think it's a combination of training, meditation and some assistance from some herbal, medicinal hallucinogenics to help them to take that further step from meditation.
Mort

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Mort I reckon Genesis is based on the origins of our planet and conveniently bypasses the notion of something even coming before us, or that we are part of something greater.

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Maybe when it was written they only had certain knowledge and had to find a way of getting it down safely so that future generations could understand it properly? In terms that they could understand without getting too technical.

Unfortunately as we are a species of nervous twitchy types scared of our own shadows we instead had to go and organise a religion whereby the dumb schmucks go and take everything communicated as literal.... rather than as technical allegories. Throw in all the mistranslations and the fact that its human nature to be sceptical.....

Mort.

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Well they say the bible is basically the modern version of history of the world, from creation to present day. I thought it was well believed that the bible was written by very clever people who interpreted lots of information passed through different ages and civilisations and put it down metaphorically, citing 1 GOD as the creator, and delivering the rest through metaphorical biblical stories. E.g. Noah's ark = flooding of atlantis. 'And it rained down fire from the heavens, and they were turned to dust' - Sumerian nuclear bombing or whatever it was...incidentally, the word for dust in that region also means vapour...

I am loving the concept of God not being a creator in any magical sense but in an alien sense, that is so much more exciting. I heard somewhere recently that there are those who believe that the line 'Man was created in God's image' or whatever it is is not referring to a literal God-

They believe that the genetic variation between the different key races on earth are so large that it is impossible for us to have evolved that way. In other words, they believe we were created. Causasians, Africans, Orientals, Indians, - a product of genetic meddling done by 'god' - possibly aliens or prehistoric technologically superior beings. I love that idea. Not saying I believe it but it is such a great theory, I would love to learn more about this genetic thing.

Raz

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13 Oct 2011 20:46:47
what do u guys think of bigfoot and the lochness monster?

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I think they make a lovely couple but i worry about the children.

Seriously i think bigfoot or yeti's are a possibility. Nessie i'm less ure of, to quote Monty Burns "Drain the loch"

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Big Foot - yes.

Lochness - No, there's a documentary floating about where they prove it's simply a myth.

The Moon.

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Both are bad examples of their 'kinds' if you like.
There are far more likely beasts to exist than Bigfoot in the vastly populated and explored N. America.

Yeti, Orang Pendek (check it out, expedition out in Sumatra as we speak finding decent evidence for it) and so on are more likely to exist in unexplored tropical jungles or inhospitable mountain terrains.

As for Loch Ness, again, check out Champ (Lake Champlain, USA), Ogopogo (Canada), etc.....some of these lakes are absolutely monstrous, we're talking half the size of Wales or bigger.

So yeah, they could exist but there are other supposedly similar creatures that are more plausible.

RED_SKY

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RED_SKY -

I think there are far more plausible options, just like you.

as for Nessy, well the whole incident with the fake picture for me, seems to put to bed the entire mystery, maybe years ago there was some kind of animal living in the waters but I think we would of found more conclusive evidence in this day and age.

The Moon. {Ed001's Note - it must be remembered that Loch Ness has got channels leading out into the sea, so it is impossible to be 100% sure of anything. It could simply be that a whale once got in and led to the creation of the legend of the monster.}

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I believe Yetis exist. Loch Ness, who knows, but footprints don't lie and there have been some wack footprints found in Himalayan areas, bones, you name it. The Yeti, IMO, blatantly exists.
Raz

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Wasn't there something in the news the other day about some sort of proof in Siberia or was i dreaming?

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The Moon / Ed - I agree, the thing about the channels to the ocean is a good point and could explain it.

My actual leaning, weirdly, is that if these lake monsters exist, they might be.....giant unknown molluscs or something.

Bascially, there is a report of something crossing a road towards Loch Ness from back in the day that resembled a grey mass, possibly tentacled but certainly not the definitive 'dinosaur' that some reported.

Similar things have been seen near lake in the USA. What if we have hear a large, maybe 6-10ft long snail/slug/etc, totally unknown to science....it could spend most of its time dormant in the mud at the bottom of the lake, hence the infrequency of sightings and no evidence found by underwater searches.

When it breaches, it would still be a grey mass with a small 'head' on top of a neck of sorts. Just a theory!

Yes, they do claim to be close to finding the yeti in siberia, although I'm sure this has a different name - maybe the Almas or similar. Yeti is Mongolian isn't it?

RED_SKY

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13 Oct 2011 19:02:26
having looked up david flynn after what the ed said about him , i have to say some more of the puzzle falls into place, when you see his stuff , very much worth watching for everyone, hes on youtube..........lfc

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It is interesting viewing just a shame about the audio quality.

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Theres a few of them , i argee about the one your are saying about , without a good speaker system on your laptop its bad........lfc {Ed001's Note - better off using good headphones, I can highly recommend Beats Audio products, they give incredible clarity.}

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Nowt wrong with my sound system ed, maybe just turn it up a little, maybe to 11. think its more just the mic they used wasn't brilliant. interesting though. {Ed001's Note - I was replying to the guy who said about a decent speaker system on a lappy, better off using headphone and then adjusting the sound to suit what you are trying to watch.}

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Thanks for the headphone tip ed001 , in saying that has anyone else found that interesting videos that get uploaded on youtube are spoiled by the insane loud music playing on them , especially when someone is speaking..........lfc

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Pretty sure you need a few bob lying around to be able to afford the Beats headphones... {Ed001's Note - they aren't cheap but they are fantastic, some things, such as the latest HP laptops with Beat Audio, come with a pair of them though.}

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13 Oct 2011 17:53:02
Hi guys does anybody have any info on the under water Alien bases in Puerto rico and Brazil

MJ

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Surely that is made up....

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Well no not till you mentioned it but there is stuff online

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I don't have information on it as such, although i've heard various different stories. such as a previous species which inhabited our planet long before us, an alien 'prison'. actual aliens and humans working together, etc.

I personally think it's just an underwater military base used for testing new technology but I guess nobody can be completely sure.

The Moon.

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Moon's option sounds sensible

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13 Oct 2011 13:30:56
Well I actually think that Dan Burisch is pretty close and at the least very, very interesting. I urge everyone to watch the interviews he does with bill ryan and kerry cassidy from project camelot. If this is true what he says, then wow! I think it will blow your mind and I would especially love to hear what you think of it ED033.

KiwiRed {Ed033's Note - What Dan Crain/Burish says about the Lotus project is very interesting but I would suggest that while or after he was allegedly working at S4, Area 51 with a captive ET J-rod called Chi'el'ah, Dan Crain/Burish was probably mind controlled so I find it hard to believe everything he says about his time at S4. But this is interesting as well.}

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{Ed033's Note - Project Camelot interview with Dan Crain / Burish

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhK3Os_eE4g

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Thought is was excellent but maybe not all true.

matty b

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First sorry about these short boxy posts, i'm
typing on a ps3. Anyway i watched the interview with Dan Burisch and though i am
a firm believer in ET activity in our skies i can't
take this man seriously , i think he genuinely
has issues and they may have more to do with
grand daddy and his tall friend than area 51.
I know this sounds dismissive and cynical but
these things go on, i hope i'm wrong and he's
just a Walter Mitty or that he's telling the truth.
JR

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