Conspiracy Talk Archive February 14 2012

 

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14 Feb 2012 19:46:14
Has anyone ever heard of the 0 point research (extracting hydrogen from water for free energy) ? Scientists were apparently offered huge sums to stop the research from saudis etc as it would have changed the world from a financial point of view. Some scientists were poisoned and some had heart attacks. Its been arround for a while I gather but Ive just stumbled on it. It would make sense that anyone enjoying the wealth fossil fuels brings certain people would want work like this being stopped.

Matt_RFC

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All i really know is the Keanu Reeves film, which i think touches on similar things, scientists attacked by energy companies trying to halt research.

Would not surprise me at all, especially if hollywood do a film on it.

{Ed033's Note - Nicola Tesla first put forward the idea I think and then Andrija Puharich made a working prototype then Stan Meyer made a water powered car but was then "suicided" later

FREE ENERGY inventor mysteriously died! Why don't we have water powered cars?

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There is a lot of stuff out there about energy free devices. Here is a site I've looked at

free-energy-info.co.uk/

It's very techy when you read some of the stuff but merely serves to demonstrate that energy free devices exist and work.
NoneTheWiser

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Has anyone seen the old Ealing film with Alec Guinness *the man in the white suit"?

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Yeh seen that movie.
frankyscouse

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14 Feb 2012 18:48:25
16.The Business Plot:In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.Smedley Butler was both a patriot and a vocal FDR supporter. Apparently none of these criminal masterminds noticed that their prospective point man had actively stumped for FDR in 1932.Smedley spilled the beans to a congressional committee in 1934.

Everyone he accused of being a conspirator vehemently denied it, and none of them were brought up on criminal charges. Still, the House McCormack-Dickstein Committee did at least acknowledge the existence of the conspiracy, which ended up never getting past the initial planning stages.Though many of the people who had allegedly backed the Business Plot also maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany up through America's entry into World War II. In 1934, the Business Plot was publicly revealed by retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testifying to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional Committee. In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler's allegations of the existence of the plot, but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.

On July 17, 1932, thousands of World War I veterans converged on Washington, D.C., set up tent camps, and demanded immediate payment of bonuses due them according to the Adjusted Service Certificate Law of 1924. This "Bonus Army" was led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant. The Army was encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, who had considerable influence over the veterans, being one of the most popular military figures of the time. A few days after Butler's arrival, President Herbert Hoover ordered the marchers removed, and their camps were destroyed by US Army cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur.

Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Roosevelt in that year's election. In a 1995 History Today article Clayton Cramer argued that the devastation of the Great Depression had caused many Americans to question the foundations of liberal democracy. "Many traditionalists, here and in Europe, toyed with the ideas of Fascism and National Socialism; many liberals dallied with Socialism and Communism." Cramer argues that this explains why some American business leaders viewed fascism as a viable system to both preserve their interests and end the economic woes of the Depression.
the truth is weirder than fiction.
frankyscouse

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Interesting. Of course none of them were going to admit it without any hard evidence against them, which presumably they didn;t have as it sounds like Butler's word against the rest. An the rich always get off scott free.

You would think though that if you were planning a coup and needed a top military man that you would perhaps pick a bit more carefully but then it looks like brains have never been a Bush family strong point.

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From what I have read If its true, the vast majority of the Socialist workers party in Germany were wealthy Americans, Im to understand that Henry Ford openly admitted funding them before they were the Nazi party.

Matt_RFC

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Your correct Matt. Hittler was funded by Henry Ford he also supplied a lot of engineering secrets on building tanks and other vehicles. One thing i did read that stuck with me and i know this is going of the track a bit is that Hittler was openly investigating UFO's and there are many videos during the war of German engineers flying saucer like ships around empty hangers. As the Americans knew this they wanted to get as close to Hittler as they could and in doing that they allowed Henry Ford to basically partner Hittler. When the war was over the German engineers were taken to America to continue the work they had once done for Hittler in building and creating UFO's

Runcorn Red!

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14 Feb 2012 17:42:39
{Ed033's Note - Michael Tellinger - 200 Million Year Old Giant Human Footprint?

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When you look at the stories of alien encounters from small villages that very rarely talk to common man, They are from grey's to lizard men to Angel types and giant robots so Giant men on earth at one point in time would not surprise me

MJ

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You know what they say about people with big feet!

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Big socks?

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If were to believe the Bible they also mention giants wondering the earth and also people travelling from one country to another in seconds! Maybe the truth is in the bible its just hidden with religion!

Runcorn Red!

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This might be the funniest conspiracy yet, as there is video evidence of how wrong it is! The rock is clearly not horizontal strata folded upward, but some kind of intrusion with the surrounding rock weathered away. The contours of the "foot" continue up past the "toes", as the "toes" are simply the underside of a natural ledge in the rock. 10/10 for imagination, though. My other favourite bit was his estimate of the age, "200m - 3billion" years old! That narrows it down!

Rikki

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14 Feb 2012 15:29:23
someone the other week had the interesting theory of the yanks blowing up the enterprise in the gulf to blame the iranians. Enterprise being a bit old and no loss. But today the abraham lincoln passed the straits of hormuz and as thats a bit more of a recent ship so wondering what people think will happen now.

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I dont think anything will happen,the usa are very aware of china and russia capabilities, its not like the cold war years ago, we have now 3 superpowers.
frankyscouse

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I really doubt the Chinese would bother kicking anything off, their too busy trying to take over on the quiet and wouldn't want a war against their best customers.

Russis is a different kettle of fish and may go and push for a war to take peoples minds of domestic issues. However that didn't work too well for Nikolai II.

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Never in a million years are Russia, USA, or China going to start a war as they have too much to lose. The three of them are in each others pocket, divvying the world out between them. Do u actually believe that one of them does anything without telling the other, and we are hanging on to the Yanks shirt tails.

Sooty

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14 Feb 2012 01:34:56
do you think tupac shakur is dead or still alive sorry ed if this has been asked before ive only just recently found this site keep up the good work. cheers
rapper. {Ed001's Note - personally I think he is dead.}

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Yes im absolutely positive that he is dead, any body with enough charisma to turns peoples heads and perhaps start revolutions will always end up dead... wont they MLK?

JWalk

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Tony Blair is still going though and he had enough charisma to turn peoples heads.

I get what you mean, but seriously he was an alright rapper, nowt special so can't really see him getting assassinated by the illuminati. Just another one where people are looking for conspiracies for the sake of conspiracies, when it was nothing more than it was, an east coast/ wets coast c/rap feud, which got out of hand. Nowt sinister.

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This is a hard one to answer i think after he was shot the first time he needed to get away from it all it wasnt the illumaniti after him but gangs in the u.s hounded him it cost very little to pay a crackhead to shoot somone and i think he had to get away, with all those smart lyrics basically telling the future and the 7 day theroy he saw it coming it was only a matter of time he was shot in vegas but i dont think he died, 2pac was an okay rapper he stood up for somthing and stayed true to it he would of been raped by the media these days and become a tool like eminem hopfully he is still alive he had a legacy, listen to immortal technique and jedi mind tricks bout the only real hiphop out there

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13 Feb 2012 23:03:14
strange pic this edd .

uk.news.yahoo.com/amazing-%E2%80%98tsunami-cloud%E2%80%99-hits-florida-coastline.html

frankyscouse

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Looks cool, but a natural phenomena,temperature inversion plus slow breeze

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