Conspiracy Talk Archive October 14 2013

 

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14 Oct 2013 21:18:43
Any1 watching crimewatch? Maddie mccann special. What do you guys make of it?

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Yeah watched it, totally mind blowing new evidence erm a feller carrying a blonde kid around the time in a holiday resort, really? oh yeah a few men arguing.
is it me but did you expect more?

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I think all of a sudden some known paedophile living within 50 miles of it all will be fitted up over it.
Friends in high places and all that.

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I was actually thinking the same thing sjm72, someone will be fitted up for this as I believe any further investigating will lead back to the Mccanns, I know innocent till proving guilty and all that but it just doesn’t sit right, not just with me but a lot of people.

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Well said Garbo. NO mention of the DNA evidence in the flat, NO mention of the 48 unanswered questions, NO mention of the conflicting accounts and unwillingness to participate in a reconstruction. but wait, one thing that struck me was when the Cop guy Redwood said about the sighting of the man carrying a child in the direction of the sea "Doesn't fit in with someone trying to flee Praia Da Luz quickly". I picked up on that straight away. There's hope yet that the truth will out! Davie.

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15 Oct 2013 15:39:01
funny how she was quick to add, ' when I went back into the room, I saw the window open. I JUST KNEW SHE HAD BEEN TAKEN! WTF really? you seem to know a lot don't you woman?

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Guys my honest take on it is they know more than they are letting on

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Davie, or others who can help,

I read about the sniffer dog evidence but wasn't sure if they'd actually found DNA matches. I thought the whole problem with the dog evidence was that it could not be used without DNA evidence to back it up?

Please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm trying to get to the bottom of where my belief lies.

The whole thing does appear strange to me and the Gaspar statement in particular is seriously damning. Did anything ever come from this statement?

Thanks

HB

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If you watch most of these horrid instances the Police know straight away if it was someone close to the family by how those who close behave in press conferences etc. that’s one of the reasons they get them in front of the press straight away, my gut feeling all them years ago watching those two was they had something to do with it albeit I had to see it a few times before I twigged, the Portuguese police knew it but just could not get the vital evidence which makes me think that they had help, all that and the extraordinary help they have had from government and other people in power makes me think that they are protected, if one of our kids had been taken in this way do you think we would get the same level of help? Jonty

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Exactly Jonty, I said a similar thing to the wife earlier.

If the McCanns were a couple of "normal, working class people" they'd be vilified for the neglect which ultimately caused this tragedy (for what they have reported, but let's be fair - it might be much worse)

But fortunately for them, they're wealthy, seemingly intelligent people with friends in high places. As a result, rather than asking all the right questions, the vast majority of people have ignored the facts and are actually donating money to their fund!

Personally, I don't know what I believe, but refuse to exclude anything.

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Hb, check this out on mccann case.

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/mccann-case-solved-it-were-them-there-cleaners-that-done-it/

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Hi HB, I wouldn't class myself as an authority on the case, however I have followed it from day one. First of all the dogs. You are absolutely right that them 'alerting' to traces in itself does not mean a thing. However, when you put it together with all the known facts and the minute traces of blood found under the tiles then you begin to get a picture. As for the Gaspar statements well, again you are right, sounds very sinister. Nothing ever came of it, surprise surprise. It was enough for the Gaspars to cease all contact. nuff said. For anyone who is interested, I became fascinated with this case the minute KM uttered the words "Please don't hurt her" in her plea to the so called abductor (s). Just didn't sound/ sit right at the time. Instinct. For ANYONE who is interested in this please check out mccannfiles.com Cheers. Please God, the truth will out.

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I can't help but think there's a false arrest going to be made soon. I believe that there are mounting pressure building against the mccanns and now there throwing in a fake abducter. ( A tad like the Jill dando murder of George Barry. ) in the daily express I think it was they claim they have a name to the face they published and their closing in on him.
I'm very skeptical of this and can't help but think it's definitely the mccanns guilty of this.

RoscoJEF

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They don't even have to arrest him. They just have to create a media frenzy around this new suspect and all the attention will switch to him and away from the McCanns.

Let's face it if the investigation was serious they would have included the McCanns and their seven pals in their persons of interest list.

This investigation is a public relations exercise. It's being meticulously stage managed, and sadly the public at large will swallow it without question.

Ryan.

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Ryan I agree on everything you have said apart from the last part,

only mainstream media are putting out there perceptions of the public feeling,
why?your guess is as good as mine but not just this site but quite a few other social sites do not buy their version of events and I am guessing if we done a poll in this country at the very least it would be 50/50 at the most 60/40 they know something more.

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I hope you're right Franky, it's just the cynic in me thinks the investigation will change public perception with this new suspect.

Don't you think it's strange though that the McCanns have no interest in finding out what is under Robert Murat's driveway? Given how shallow the site is, it would be an easy dig, and quick too. So why have they (and the current investigation) got no interest in it?

And the talk about phone records is a joke. All the mobile data has been erased, and it wouldn't have included pay as you go mobiles anyway. So that just leaves land line data.

This investigation will fail because it was designed that way from the start.

Ryan.

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The word is disgusting and unthinkable not strange that the McCanns have no interest in finding out what is under Robert Murat's driveway, if this was twenty years ago (before the internet) I would agree with you but not with just this case, it is very easily to bypass mainstream media, certain sheep will always believe what gets told to them that is why I have come to the opinion that everyone open minded (like this site) should spread any links on twitter/facebook/emails etc and let other people see a alternative news and let them make there mind up.

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You talk a lot of sense Frankie. I KNOW who is to blame, so do you, but we are such small guys in such a big pond. I hate all this s***. Genuinely!

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Thanks for your tips guys, I'll do some more reading when I get a chance.

HB

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Spot on Ryan, what have I missed out on with Murats driveway?

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Stephen Birch, a South African businessman who by his own admission is completely obsessed with the Madeleine case, says the body of Madeleine is buried under Robert Murats driveway, just a few short yards from the McCann holiday apartment. He illegally scanned the surface and wants the Portuguese police to excavate the site. Nobody knows if it is Madeleine. It could be a pet or some other small animal. But at this stage you just have to ask why the Portuguese/British police, and especially the McCanns have absolutely no interest in finding out if he is right. Whatever is buried is only about 16 inches beneath the surface, so it would be easy enough to access, and Birch has made the scan available to the Portuguese police.

There is a lot about this on Chris Spivey, and the McCannfiles.

http://youtu.be/uQhe05pkcYg

Ryan

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14 Oct 2013 12:03:43
just on the david icke internet tv channel edds and everyone, do you think they will be censored in any way?

after watching the wikileaks documentary (great post btw ) mediastan, the information they wanted to get out but no one would touch it.

icke is not naive and he knows it is going to be watched and any inflammatory story that comes out could mean they will get sued?or is icke going to have some type of disclaimer? I really do not know how it works, any ideas?

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{Ed033's Note - Here's my opinion. Main stream media will be ignoring the channel. David icke has said they only have a few weeks worth of money to keep going. As millions of people won't be watching because it's internet based not main stream tv based, it means that any advertisers wont be paying enough to keep it going.

Also the amount of donations won't be enough either, so they would have to move to subscriptions, which may lead to the channel continuing but in any event, the channel won't be any threat to the controllers as not enough 'non-awake' people will actually be watching it to increase the number of 'awake' people to hit any sort of tipping point (tipping point could = 2% of the adult population being 'awake' ?).

Could be explosive while it is on if the media do ignore it.
i do admire the reasons why icke will not work with sponsors that have dodgy connections, its a tricky call, either sleeping with the devil (sponsors) and at least getting your views out ala alex jones.
lets enjoy it while we can.

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When and we're is this on.

Would like to watch and donate ;-)

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{Ed033's Note - it starts in november if you go to davdicke.com you'll see adverts for it.

Cheers Ed

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Cheers Franky. The Mediastan post was mine.
Khakipillowslip

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Great post khaki very interesting documentary.

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