Conspiracy Talk Archive April 16 2012

 

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16 Apr 2012 17:50:01
Hey Ed' did you happen to see the Tupac hologram from a concert that took place recently?! {Ed001's Note - no, I haven't seen that, do you have a link for it?}

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It was brilliant. Hope they do all the old greats like that, Hendrix, Sinatra them all!

MM

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Man its so real looking is he dead ?

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Pac is dead but the hologram was almost flawless just imagine how advanced they have it when we're just seeing it now could be paving for somthing bigger... Dre and snoop annoy me if pac was alive he wouldnt be rolling with them frauds
Jedimindtricks {Ed001's Note - why is Dre a fraud? He is just a musician, as was Tupac. All that Thug Life stuff was complete rubbish, he went to a stage school, he was no thug.}

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Dre never wrote his own lyrics for a start so he cant call himself a rapper, rap is a way for poor people to express there self through lyricism and it enabled them to have a voice but since 2000 censorship came into it and now rap is all about women guns and money because the music labels dont allow them to speak there mind or even about actual events, pac was a thug but its not where your from its where your at and pac followed the gun i dont agree with it but respect the man for the songs that did have meaning he died true to the ghetto
Jedimindtricks {Ed001's Note - Dre can call himself a rapper because he raps, doesn't matter who writes the lyrics, that would be a song writer. Rap was just a way to get a party going, nothing more, so what it has moved into is hardly a surprise, though disappointing. Pac was a fake gangster, staying true to the ghetto? That is just nonsense, if you want to talk about staying true to the ghetto you would have to talk about Ice Cube. He created employment and businesses in the ghetto, to help it improve and move forward. Pac just got high and drunk and acted like a young lad with too much money. He may have written some great songs, but that is all.}

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Tupac Live 2012 At Coachella Legit Full Performance, Intro and outro!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L73tGfOam4

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Dre's one of the many that has destroyed the image of rap with guns girls and drugs nothing relevent but that is not real hiphop this is why i dont associate dre with rap he is a pop muscian at best the music you hear from the televison isnt hiphop atall all real rap is underground now because it wont be played on the tv due to the realism of what is said hiphop is mordern day poetry it has the power to open our eyes, i.e immortal technique,jedimindtricks,lowkey,canibus rap about what some of us on the site speak of daily
Jedimindtricks {Ed001's Note - I agree with you completely on that, I think he is a fantastic producer, but I dislike the message he spreads intensely.}

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You sumed it up pefectly edd the sound is good but the message is cloudy
Jedimindtricks {Ed001's Note - I was always a big fan of KRS-1, he is still going strong but all underground now. Still one of the greatest lyricists ever.}

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Ed001 sorry but you white folk have no idea what you are on about.

2Pac was a revolutionary, he wanted to change the world and had ideals of creating his own government. He was totally anti illuminati and anti state and is the only prominent celebrity bar, john lennon, who was brave enough to take on the powers that be.

Type in "2pac illuminati interview" on youtube and watch the many interviews he did where he exposed the government and spoke about his aim to get every black man off the streets and his desire to be a positive influence on the youth. 2pac was a threat due to his influence and he waged a war against the powers that be...this is why he was taken out.

I dont wanna start a silly debate or argue with you but the black community hold 2pac in a an extremely high regard in a similar way as we do for malcolm x and martin luther king...the guy is an inspiration. There are people in life that just sit back and do nothing and there are people that are bold and want to make positive changes in the world...2pac was the latter.

This is a classic example of the mainstream media defaming a very decent human being due to him being a threat...your views on the man are that of the media who have fed you lies and propanganda about the man.

You need to go and watch some interviews of Tupac on youtube trying to open peoples mind about how the world is really run and then you will completely change your view on him.

Dean {Ed001's Note - hahaha you are a fool if you think Lennon was anything either. He did nothing bar pay lip service and get high. Neither of them did anything to change the world bar talk about it. I have watched hundreds of interviews with Tupac, he offers nothing. He allowed himself to be played by Suge Knight.}

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Edd001 i respect how you know your stuff krs-1 was a lyrical monster, dean i think its racist to call us out as white people dont know anything thats where your wrong tupac was in the struggle yes he fought for his peoples rights and dis some amazing songs but at the time he was on top of the world if he wanted to change this earth he could of, with ryhmes all about guns bitches hoes and fighting wheres the message stand out for the average person to see? He was indulged in to much wealth and became a pawn to suge night tupac should be respected but not placed as high as other revoulutionarys, immortal techinque and canibus are ones without the hoe and money talk the real revoulutionists they speak the truth far greater than anything pac,biggie,emeinem can offer, pac and biggie where killed emeniem was hushed and the real greatest ever big pun and big L are forgotten its a shame, treat humans all the same dont judge us on are skin
Jedimindtricks

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Whole thing makes me laugh. Why do people how musicians, of any sort, in high esteem?
The pronouncements of anyone with a recording contract should always be taken with a pinch of salt. They are on the public stage or either their image or talent, not their thoughts of life. {Ed001's Note - when they get that contract, they do as they are told anyway.}

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People look for inspiration when there young they look for a role model type somone who can show them the path to enlightenment but these days there are no decent role models people who look up to 50pence and lil wayne what is there music saying that we should all treat women wrong and go spend are money on drugs cause its fun? Thats just wrong they take rap and rape it of its heritage, look at pac hes used as a media tool most young people dont pick up on what he stood for and just think he was cool cuse he was a gangster i bet giving a choice none of them would want to grow up the way they did but thats what slums are like and to break out of it takes hardwork so respect is due where its deserved
Jedimindtricks

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Jedimindtricks its not a racism issue at all. Im merely saying that Ed001 and the white community in generally are not very well versed in the true motivations of 2pac, they only know what they have been fed by the media.

After he came out of prison he was a completely different person and the media doesnt want people to know this. His album titled "killuminati" speaks volumes and if you guys know anything about the people that run the music industry and the world you will know that 2pac was the biggest threat to them forwarding their agenda.

2pac introduced me and many others to how the world is really governed...without him I would not be on this page in the first place and I would not have questioned the world at all. He is a revolutionary and I find it quite unbelievable that anyone could think otherwise, it seems to only be the white community that doesnt appreciate the good things he was trying to do.

People only remember the drugs or the girls or his obnoxious attitude but they forget the positive messages he was trying to spread...people have selective memory it seems, especially the white community.

You name me one prominent artist or politician that came out and waged war against the powers that be in the fashion 2pac did? 2pac did several interviews and many songs where he expressed his desire to change the world into a better place yet you guys only remember the songs where he's degrading women or talking about drugs?

The same with Michael Jackson. He was all about spreading positivity and exposing the powers that be yet some people only remember him for the drugs and molestation charges. Always seems to be the black men that never get the credit they deserve.

In one of 2pacs last interviews he declares that he will set up his own government and turn the world on its head...can you imagine how many millions of people he would have woken up if he'd still been alive? He never got the opportunity to make the changes he was so passionate about.

He's an inspirational man and Ed001 you clearly have no idea what you are talking about if you think otherwise. Go and read up on some black history and then come back to me bro...if 2pac was white I dont think we'd be having this conversation.

Dean {Ed001's Note - you are a racist, if you think the colour of my skin makes any difference to my understanding of his music. You have no idea lad. We wouldn't be having this conversation because you would be bitching about racism if anyone said you didn't understand his music because you were black. You have proven just how easily the media manipulates people into believing idiotic things like skin colour being of any difference.}

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Your right a about some of it dean but tupac DID write some crap killilumanti was good fair enough but it doesnt mean he had a message throught all his songs it is not becuse we are white that we see passed him he was a revoultionary but he could of been so much more, immortal technique has progressed so much more than pac give that man a listen to and educate yourself, how can somone who likes hiphop even be a racist thats some messed up s**t, im white and i understand hiphop and all its complexitys dont judge a man on there skin
Jedimindtricks

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Nah dean would not listen to immortal, the guy is latino, so he would defo not listen JMT either .

JWalk

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Project blue beam in all its glory

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Jwalk you into hiphop? If so canibus is the man very smart
Jedimindtricks

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Yes i am JMT, underground hip hop is my fave genre of music, ive literally got canibus 2000bc in my cd player at the moment, great album. Funnily enough JMT are probably my fave collective ...along side Wu! I have developed a stubborness to listen to newly relseased music, i have never heard so much s**te on the radio and tv in my life so i have become reluctant to listen to any new artist from any kind of genre. I am a right miserable b**tard in that sense lol

JWalk

JWalk

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What they play on the tv is ridacule jwalk ive usually got canibus or jedi on everyday celph titleds gatalog was a masterpiece aswell good to meet another hiphop crusader, rip the jacker or poet laurette? I prefer rip what a genius
Jedimindtricks

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Loads of people have stood up and proclaimed their perceived injustices, it isn't just musicians.
People do like role models, mine were never musical when I grew up. I always found sport to be much better in an aspirational sense. I never heard my role models coming out with two bit ill informed politics either

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After he came out of prison he was a completely different person and the media doesnt want people to know (Dean)
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Pac was never in Prison. Jail and Prison are 2 very different places. This illusion of Pac being a street tough gangster or an outspoken visionary on the state of affairs is laughable. He was a theatre kid who was flamboyant and boisterous and was able to convince Suburban Americans that he was something more. Trust me bro, I was an American teen in the early 90's, fun times, but very grandised now.
BUCK

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16 Apr 2012 13:10:27
Hi eds/others.

I've just come across "Project Blue Beam" and it is really frightening in a way. There's talk of an alleged "alien invasion" or something at The Olympics and it all ties in together with things happening in previous years.

I just want to hear your thoughts on it, feel free to educate/add your imput.

Cheers, Sikander.

{Ed033's Note - They will have to do something ritual at the 2012 Olympics because that is the nature of how they think and do things but whether people notice the what the ritual is, is another matter.}

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Ah, cheers. I remember in the hanover ceremony in Beijing a bus blowing up, or something. Don't know if i'm wide of the mark, but it's something i vaguely remember.

Sikander.

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16 Apr 2012 12:39:17
I'm big on 9/11 and other events that make one wonder who was behind them. However, I would urge anyone to get a film called "The Secret".
Easily the most powerful thing I've EVER watched.

Either ignore this, or take a chance and spend 90 minutes learning the worlds' biggest secret! Feedback welcomed.

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Is that the one about the power of thought and how the more you think about things in a positive way they happen ? Hope its true Ive been thinking about winning the euromillions and being in a hot tub with Cheryl Cole quite a lot lately.

Matt_RFC

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{Ed033's Note - New 9 11 Video Analysis by Richard D Hall (Part 1)

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16 Apr 2012 09:23:44
After the posts from last week, I have just become aware of also lost of reported big booms in america this month reported even on Fox news I think it was in Wisconsin ?

Matt_RFC

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