Conspiracy Talk Archive July 17 2012

 

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17 Jul 2012 23:27:19
hmmm protocols of the elders of zion. A fake but well done. Lets face it most people if asked how do you take over the world would come up with control the banks and the media. Fairly obvious but a sure way of discrediting the target group. That said the things outlined in it do seem to be happening. i also read earlier that Henry Ford paid for it to be distributed in America. He was a bit dodgy i think.

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17 Jul 2012 21:42:31
ok people, i am a bit confused, i have had 3 girlfriends in the last 14 years, the first could see auras, the second could see people exhale purple clouds and the last and current can tell me about lost or dead people (confirmed) , wtf !

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This is isnt really a conspiracy its more a bad choice on your doing of the picking of girlfriends dude their weird..

Jedimindtricks

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Ok jedi first could tell me aboout no 1 she could see auras and explained them. 2nd any person tell from 50 yards away away you and she could tell and thirrd envisaged a girl who was found on a mountaiside not living, u tell me something over to u son keep me interseted

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It's very difficult to be open minded about aura's and especially being able to see an exhalents breath because i cannot and do not see them, you spent 14 years with these three did you take in anything from what they described the only one i see really intresting is the 3rd to be able to sense where human distress is they would need to be connected somhow, i dont know where to go with this say a little more

Jedimindtricks

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You need to pick your girlfriends better and not go for the ones on mushrooms..

JK92

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You need to read up on kirlian photography, it takes a picture of your "aura". However your aura is simply an electromagnetic field that all people generate. To say that you can tell a persons mood from it is complete testicles! Like astrology!
Besides the scientific reasoning you need to remember that women arent like normal people lol!
Liono 74

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Could be worse at least your partner does not swear at the telly when she watches her soaps.
frankyscouse

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Appreciate your thoughts guys, funnily enough the third does pass the feeling on (so she tells me), grasping at straws and may be coincidence but frequently look at a phone and it rings with the person that I am thinking of, odd but like i say coincedence like the number 23 film that Jim Carey did, if you look hard enough you can rationalise anything

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Ps frankyscouse ha ha lfmao soaps in my house are banned, the ones on tv mind not cleansing products, :o), cheers Jedi and Liono

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17 Jul 2012 18:54:59
love this page ! ( first time poster)
would like to know people's thoughts on the current banking issues ! are these being created/flagged to help ease nations into a paperless money system ? just a thought

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We already pretty much have a paperless money system.
I don't think it's more than a few years away that we will have no cash (not going to please the elderly as they quite rightly don't trust banks) and we will just have a card based system for everyday transactions. We will then probably be charged by the bank's when we use them and they will be able to gather alot of info regarding our habits/movements providing valuable information than can also be sold on amongst other things. The whole crisis in my opinion was just driven by ultimate gain and Cashflow.
You would struggle to get to the truth of any big corporations or banks true financial position given the depth at which accountants can be "creative" about how robust a company wants to appear. Who's to say alot of it has'nt been exaggerated with creative accounts & collusion in order for all of us to expect less financially individually for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't discount anything though.

Supasub

Supasub

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I had heard whilst growing up that all nations were looking for a moneyless system to help eleviate fraud and tax aviodence , I was thinking this is maybe a way of programming people into thinking that it's a good idea

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Not gonna happen you think the MP's and higher up want their pornos, prostitutes and mistresses on the bank statement.
Andrew
{Ed033's Note - A completely cashless society would reduce crime but they want crime to stay high so they can bring in more control mechanisms using the excuse of crime.

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Good point

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Banks being shown to be dishonest and untrustworthy is not going to sway the public towards cashless systems that require banks.

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17 Jul 2012 14:38:09
To every poster, I am interested in knowing which conspiracies intrigue you the most and why.
I will start mine has to be the Planet X conspiracy. Not just the planet but all other subcategories like ancient civilisations and their knowledge. I am a bit of a geek on the subject but it just baffles me how much information they seemed to have on such subjects and why we still dont just say Ok they are right. Ancient technology is another passion of mine as well.

Also the conspiracy that Liverpool fc are the greatest team in the world but are playing a very clever game in making everyone including some of their own fans (check the liverpool banter page) into thinking they are rubbish.

Kopping a feel {Ed033's Note - ,

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I like yourself love the planet X conspiracy, in saying that, I tend to love any alien conspiracies. The idea that we have been visited and perhaps have even have made a treaty with one of the species really interests me.

Nick H

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Yep for me anything alien, would love just some confirmation on ourselves or anything else. That's why I come to this page to get a heads up on things that could have the greatest impact's on our civilisation and learn about important but sometimes non main stream info.

Supasub

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PlanetX ? im new to this pls explain this conspiracy to me, i love anything to do with Aliens ?



REDJON

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Love everything from crystal skull, aliens, bigfoot,yeti & that everton are a big club........CM68

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JFK and all the spin offs.

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Planet x or planet nibiru. loads on youtube.

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Nicolia tesla's machine's and ideas being made today just as in the past he was such an intreguing and creative being

Jedimindtricks

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Ancient technology is no.1 for me as i believe we were once far more advanced than we are today and were also around alot longer than mainstream would have you believe, im not a fan of the ancient aliens theory although i do believe life exists elsewhere but they aren't responsible for the mysteries of the pyramids or machu picchu etc! if you look up coral castle or Edward Leedskalnin i think the answers are there somewhere lol! if any of the eds can add anything id be very interested cheers
cantona's legal team {Ed001's Note - I am with you on this, I believe there is plentiful evidence around that humanity was once more advanced. There are ancient batteries found in Egypt, the Piri Reis map, etc etc. There is also possible evidence of nuclear weaponry having been employed in China and many other little things, such as cavemen having survived brain surgery.}

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Yea iv seen some of that uv mentioned and also i read somewhere that they found an aluminium composite what can best be described as landing pad for aircraft in india with drilled holes that are at least 20000 yrs old then you have the indian metallurgy that makes are tech look like beginners stuff the delhi pillar is roughly 1500 years and no rust? ancient stuff just fascinates the s*** out of me lol
cantona's legal team {Ed001's Note - I do love this area myself, there are more and more amazing finds coming to light all the time.}

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Also for anyone who is interested and good at maths,the code of the universe is
7129
6105195
cantona's legal team 3 6 9

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Here's a real simple one the Romans had a better formula for cement than us. With all our technology we cant find out Roman cement recipe.
I love the JFK thing, My favorite part is how 99.9% of America loves him and cannot name 1 thing he did.
I also like extraterrestrials, if we found them religion, out the door, and maybe we could come together as a race and stop killing each other.
Andrew

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Yeah im no expert but i think we would see this planet coming by now if its coming in december

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I'm an ufologist and sci fi dude mainly. That an ancient technologies. Ed1 touched on it and it's believed the deserts are remains of ancient civilisations decimated by war.
I always remember in school as a child when we doing lessons on the Incas, and how archialologists had found perfect spherical objects which were from Incan times, that supposedly couldn't have been manufactured with the tools of the time.
NoneTheWiser

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Oddest thing i have seen on this site is the instruments to deliver babies ages ago that we have not even mastered with that precision on the specific metal, well wierd, just as an aside as i know most of you are scientific look at bbc website today, they found a spiral galaxy way before they invisaged it could have happened,

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17 Jul 2012 10:44:47
13 families of elites control global banking systems most of the governments across the world, many of the famines, natural disasters and wars are caused by them. This group consists of families such as the British monarchy, Rockefeller, Rothschild (the most known ones). Britain will be a police state very soon.

Two very special events will happen this year one of which is speculated to be the return of Christ. The illuminati already have acquired the being that is supposedly the anti-Christ. Britian being a police state will mean that RFID chips will be distributed across Britain by force, anyone that doesn't contribute will be eliminated (nazi ideology).

The Olympics is a start date for something (if a 'terrorist' attack happens don't be suprised). They have turned people against eachother via differences in religion, color etc.

A good source of proper informantion is 'the protocols of the elder Zion', it will shock you. I must add that what you think of god and Christ is very misinterpreted. Religion was a message not a way of life, it was supposed to have a positive impact on peoples life, I suppose nowadays it does. Good luck to you all.

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This is total garbage. If you are going to state such information as factual then please provide proof. If these 2 events don't occur and the Olympics pass without incident, will you retract what you have said? My guess is that you won't, you will just make up some excuse that can't be proved or disproved!

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If I need to repeat my source of information again for the clear ignorance of some people I will. My brothers friend is involved with the Latin illuminati in Cuba his family has been involved for generations. My uncle was a Freemason until he had to escape to south America because they threatened to kill him for not doing a specific job which involved abandoning his family. Also my friend who is Russian has a father who is a ex KGB agent, what he had to say was mind blowing and can I make it clear that these are things people that have been involved with such groups have told me. Apart from 1 thing that if you can find yourself, I had the courtesy of watching an excorcism and this is a very real issue, Science unfortunantly cannot explain this and what I saw frightened the s*** out of me. The demons activity are very unusual and the things it would say, only a person of shrewd knowledge would be able to fathom. Such as the demon would laugh and say 'there will be so many wars' and somehow would speak languages the person possessed did not know. If you don't believe me and want to be naive then go check it out for yourself, excorcisms happen everyday and what you might see will make you think a bit more of the possibilities out there.

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Protocols of zion is a forgery.
{Ed033's Note - Protocols of zion are allegedly a fake but the content appears to be highly accurate

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Ok, so basically you have no proof? Just what people told you, so that must be true? I will not be cancelling my travel plans around London this summer quite yet!

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^agree with this^ No evidence just a belief , that's scary in itself!!! Hunter.

{Ed033's Note - The most likely outcome for the Olympic Games is that nothing out of the ordinary will happen during the games. it's just they will have their zion ritual at the opening and/or closing ceremonies.

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(From original poster) I never said I had proof. Hence why I said people have told me, I don't like the type of people that bite the hands that feed them. Fear tactics have clearly worked judging by the negative reaction to what I had to say. People that want proof have already been prophosised about, and they are the people I feel most sorry for. I for one will be as happy as the next person if nothing happens. Also the protocols of the elder Zion was listed as a hoax just like the conspiracys about 9/11. People were slaughtered for having the book early 20th centuary but yeah it must be a hoax...lol

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So you say 2 events will happen this year but then say you will be happy if nothing happens. On this basis how can you expect any credible support for your beliefs? You will maintain your views either way and noone can disprove something that doesn't exist. I am happy to respect your view but to call others ignorant without any substance to your 'facts' is unacceptable.

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To the original poster. You mention that the elite already have the 'anti christ', what do you think this to be, is it like a normal baby that they have deemed pure evil? Also when you say Christ will return, in what form and how do you think this will occur. Im pretty sure if some guy rocked up and started shouting that he was the new messiah, I would call for the ambulance and have him sectioned.
Interesting post though.

Nick H

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There's some real cranks on YouTube who pretend to know 'the bigger picture' , they are as bad spreading their gospel as the supposed powers they preach against. If there were facts and not tenuous links to back up their words then it would be far more credible. Unfortunately as far as I can tell it's mostly pure fiction. Until there is genuine proof..not just the remake of the Omen I find all this hard to believe. HUNTER. (p.s I do have an open mind but this is stretching it a tad too far).

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To the original poster
Are we watching too many science fiction movies?? The anti-Christ being created by the illuminati its the funniest one. We all have creative minds and have the right to express ourselves with the freedom we all deserve, but what you saying is bordering on the ridiculous.
Yes i admit we are being controlled, but not in the same way as you put it, 13 families controlling the whole world its a ridiculous fantasy, imagine trying to control a country with the population of the UK and the difficulty in doing that and then add the 5.5 Billion more and its a impossibility, and i say that because for me there are too many individuals, personalities, beliefs among other things to factor.
So to sum it up, stop watching Sci-Fy channel and get back to the real world.

Mayor

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Dear all
I believe cliques like the illuminati exist and that they contain the worlds elite but i also believe that no1 can controll people to the extent they could anymore, the internet is a prime example of the inability to control. My point is less of a conspiracy more a view on the current world standing, i feel war is on the horizon all the talk of iran getting a nuke and the past decades of opression dealt onto the people of the middle east i am very scared isreal and america will soon be trying to invade iran. America's colonialism for oil in the middle east coupled with their unquestioning support of isreal in their TERRORIST actvities i.e land grabbing in palestine, sending hit squads to eliminate hamas members all over the world tied together with the massivley powerful jewish lobby groups in america who called for the invasion of iraq even prior to bush's election leads me to believe there will be major conflict very soon. Would appreciate any comments

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Hamas is a terrorist group that occasionally fires missile into Israel. All land was taken from somebody. Guess Americans are land grabber. What will Iran do with 1 nuke? Israel will shoot it out of the sky and then teach them a lesson. Also I think the best way to deal with Iran is to empower the people, remember the mass protest a couple years ago, the leader renamed like January after his mom, he is a messed up dude.
Andrew
{Ed033's Note - I guess the propaganda demonising Iran works well as some people who visit this site are taken in by it.

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Thankyou ed 33 im not denying hamas arent a "terrorist" group my point was that isreal for the past 20 or so years has got away with murder (literally) as for the land grabbing i know the isrealites used to live in jerusalem but for 2000 years the palestinians have lived there (side by side with jews) but when the creation of the isreali state occured coupled with their vast military power they have done nothing but kill and bully the palestinians off their land. It is isreal that are now the facists.

2 iran is not getting a nuke so it can blow people up it is so it can defend itself from america and isreal who have been looking to invade it since their islamic revolution, as for the poster who replied you are clearly a bit juvenile, reagen in his wonderous stupidity proved you cant shoot down nukes (star wars) as for your idea of teaching them a lesson perhaps you should know iran had the first democratically elected government in the middle east until we (britain + america) deposed mossadeq beacuse he nationalised the Anglo-Iranian oil company, later to become british petroleum and we reinstated the shah whose brutal rule led to their islamic revolution. We supported saddam in the Iran-Iraq war ignoring his human rights violations (gassing his own people) and even suppleid him with the materials and know how to make mustard and seron gas all because we were fearful of iran because it was the first middle eastern country to tell us to go away.

So to surmise only by having an understanding of the past do we have any chance of discovering the future and to the responder perhaps you should A visit palestine and ask them why they blow themselves up or B read a book that hasnt been writted by the ex head of the C.I.A
Peace out homies!

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Its quite clear what is happening mate, the west iis compliant in their own country to terrorism to gain support for action against a differing ideolgy so they can sway the masses, that is what the so called dawn of the countries of unrest is all about, oil is running out and that is what everone is clammering for, step outside of the circle and you can see it a mile off, how many countries have fallen recently just look at syria at the mo and who do you think controls the actions

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If you read the old testament you would know that the Israelite's were led to what is now Israel by Moses, they stole the land from the people who were already there and committed genocide against them on the instructions of God - that is if you believe the Bible. My point is they were not the original inhabitants.

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I knew that 2, i know joshua told the people to masscre those of jericho aswell,i know my biblical nonsense i just said they lived there 2000 years ago until the romans kicked them out. As for the poster above you our governments dont support terrorist groups they are ones, America in its short existence has locked up more of its people than any other country on earth, as for syria america has been arming syria for the past 20 years even tho it didnt need it(because the russians have been 2) to try buy support for their selfrighteous pursuit of oil, we the west have been propping up dictators in the middle east since ww1 (and probly b4) so we can control their oil which has led to the downtredding of millions of arabs and the other tribes of the middle east. I dont know what circle im enclosed in but please enlighten me. {Ed001's Note - and in South America too.}

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17 Jul 2012 00:47:03
Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on this.

I've had a keen interest in cryptozoology for a few years now and I'd say I'm pretty well read on a few cases such as the possiblity of big cats in scotland etc. however I've noticed that anytime there's a "documentary" on mainstream television the "scientist" making it seem like complete dosy t***s who are afraid of their own shadow.

This I find strange considering there are a good few reputable scientists who have written papers on cryptozoology. Does anyone else think that its more than a coincedince the media outlets who broadcast these documentaries choose completely inadequate kooks to present their supposed findings to the public at large, perhaps as some kind of attempt to persuade the general public that there is nothing out there which has yet been unexplained.

Interestingty what I've said in the last few paragraphs can be compared to any kind of dpcumentary shown on mainstream television , e.g. Ufos......

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Exactly. With the mainstream media, Anyone giving out any truth is portrayed as a kook. The main stream media appear to output fiction except for sports scores.

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Unfortunately, most mainstream scientists seem to be of the opinion that 'we know everything' about nature. They dismiss accounts as known animals being misidentified etc and for the most part, are probably correct.

But their dismissals don't cover everything and I'm convinced there are hundreds of unknown animals out there masquerading as 'cryptids'.

For example, is there a plesiosaur in Loch Ness, Lake Nahuel Huapi, Lake Champlain etc?

Probably not; but that doesn't mean an undiscovered species of long-necked seal, for example, does not exist.

RED_SKY

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I live in the South West of England. It's very rural and and from time to time there are rumours of big cats.

Last year, on about page 5 of the local paper, was an old lady claiming that over the course of 2 or 3 days, she'd seen a black panther in the woods. She described it as "a black panther, about the same size as a black Labrador"
Turns out it was just a black Labrador.

{Ed033's Note - This is the thing. You require others to breed with. If the loch ness monster is real then it/they must be coming from elsewhere such as the inner earth where there are more of them.

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Any scientist who says we know everything is not a scientist, 99% of scientists freely admit we do not know everything and are willing to amend current ideas based on new evidence.

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ED33 - yes, exactly. Even if they were coming from the sea, a breeding population of 30-40ft prehistoric reptiles would not go unseen for this long.

I did watch a wicked documentary on the Orang Pendek, of Sumatra. In it, they spoke to a female scientist who'd been living in Sumatra/Indonesia for something like 11years studying tigers in the wild.

She claimed to have seen an orang pendek twice, gave detailed and believable descriptions. ANyway, to put things into perspective - they asked her, in 11yrs, how many times she'd observed a tiger in the wild.

ONCE.

That alone is proof of just how dense those jungles are. Now, imagine an intelligent, apelike/manlike creature that is making a conscious effort to not be seen by humans......it's far from unbelievable that there could be somethign in this.

RED_SKY

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