Conspiracy Talk Archive December 18 2012

 

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18 Dec 2012 19:25:32
Can someone/ed just clarify that I saw something correctly further down.
That both fathers of the last two us shootings, the one at the batman premier and the most recent one at the school in Connecticut were to be witness's in the Libor rate scandal? That can't be right can it? If it is I will have a seriously sick feeling in my stomach.
Going back to the Libor rate scandal, it is possibly the biggest financial cover up of all time. Not a lot mentioned about it yet surely it would involve the mis-selling of all loans, mortgage's and any interest related investments during the period? Adds up to a mindboggling amount of repayments IMO.

Supasub

{Ed033's Note - Supposedly it is correct, both father's were to testify at the Libor hearings. Both shootings were connected to the Dark Knight Rises Batman film.

Screen grap from the Dark Knight Rises Batman film at the 1:58:41 time mark showing the place name, SANDY HOOK (immediately left of the communication devices) on the map of Gotham. Below image from www.imgbox.de

The latest shooting was at Sandy Hook elementary school

Click on the below picture to see the full size image

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18 Dec 2012 19:53:25
Well i don't believe in coincidence.

Is there anyway that could have been faked? Cos if thats real then something is very wrong.

{Ed033's Note - I've paused the bluray version of the Dark Knight Rises film at 1:58:41 and that's what I saw - SANDY HOOK in bold letters next to the devices and Commissioner Gordon says those words as well when he places his hand over SANDY HOOK a few seconds later

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18 Dec 2012 20:25:22
Ok Ed, well thought i'd ask even if its just to rule out the possibility. Whatevers left however improbable must be the truth and all that.

{Ed033's Note - It's in the film for all the world to see

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It's hard to know what to believe, there is already info saying that non of the information on the father's can be verified and originate's from a non credible source (sorcha faal) or something like that, but the father's and the companies they worked for must be verified by now for it not to have come out already and they are significant companies with strong links to the whole banking industry.
On a separate note again, is'nt it some sort of Illuminati code of conduct that they must visibly pre-warn of an up-coming event/task?
This whole thing looks more sinister the more I read about it.

Supasub

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Sorry about cut n paste, found some other info regarding the theatre shooting in aurora:
Shooter James Holmes even went as far as to take Vicodin, a drug found in Heath Ledger at the time of his death. Vicodin is a powerful pain-killer with morphine-like effects that is used in mind control to dull outĚ victims.

Is there some kind of ritualistic connection between The Dark Knight, the sacrificial death of Heath Ledger and this new installment of a Batman movie that was launchedĚ with a mass murder? Is there a reason why this mass-murder, which occurred during the midnight screening of a movie called Dark Knight RISING took place in a city called Aurora, the name Roman goddess of dawn (dawn being the time where the sun begins to rise)? Another interesting fact: Aurora is considered to be the mother of the morning star, also know as the Light Bringer, or Lucifer.
The poster advertising the film with heath ledger on the front with joker make-up covering one eye has a few reference's also.

supasub

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"is'nt it some sort of Illuminati code of conduct that they must visibly pre-warn of an up-coming event/task?"
As far as i know yes, it's some part of their RABIDLY INSANE logic that deals with the 'legalities' of such matters. They tell us what they are going to do and then they can say "don't say we didn't warn you" well you ****os, there is a higher power than you that must be answered to.
Your day will come.

the pea

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19 Dec 2012 14:31:37
what higher power is that? These guys know more than us about our true history and origins so if view don't seem to bothered about a higher power suggests there isn't one.

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So there was a Lil Wayne video released 2 days before the Aurora shooting. It showed a cinema full of skeletons.
pea

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Pea,
that's right apparently 12 skeletons appear in the video, the same amount as people killed in the cinema, also dismembered skeletons which can apparently symbolise mind control.

Supasub

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Noted, Supasub.

"These guys know more than us about our true history and origins so if view don't seem to bothered about a higher power suggests there isn't one."

I don't think logic features too heavily in the criminal minds that apparantly run the system, is one way of putting it. The lunatics are running the assylum, ok, they are insane.
Of course, you can take it any way you want.
pea

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How did somebody notice this scene in batman.

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It's notable that the name "lil wayne' could be translated quite easily to 'little children', weans, waynes, wee ones, children.
pea

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The dark knight rises - the devil incarnate?

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Ed/anyone, there are rumours that these type of shootings are linked to the MK-ultra programme.
Even the theatre in the aurora batman shootings is called the monarch theatre.....monarch MK ultra.
What do you think? Only just been reading up on the whole MK ultra thing.

Supasub

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@ The dark knight rises - the devil incarnate?

If the dark knight batman films are being used as some basis for ritual. Is Obama the dark knight?

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20 Dec 2012 21:18:18
I think so, and i think it goes beyond MK ULTRA (if for any reason, purely because we have heard of it and talk about it) and extends back to birth of these 'subjects' if you will, maybe even beyond (prior) to that (birth).
(tired pea makes convoluted sentences)

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Just a quick one ed , why would "they"? put it in a film , thats what i dont get , thanks ...........andy.

{Ed033's Note - If you're talking about placing SANDY HOOK on the Gotham Map, then SANDY HOOK is a place name used in the Batman comics, so it's actually not out of place being there. What could be more likely is that "They" have decided to turn parts of The Dark Knight Rises into a prophesy and made it into reality just like "They" have done with certain parts of Nostradamus' writings.

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18 Dec 2012 12:19:07
anyone know where i can watch/listen to alex jones?

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Google infowars.

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Type alex jones into the youtube search field, mate

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18 Dec 2012 11:33:41
anyone else think Obama fake attempt to cry over the poor kids shot was premeditated as well?i remember watching it at the time and thinking he is trying to make himself upset,then watching infowars with Alex Jones even more convinced me,a few years ago i was at the opinion the yanks were gun happy summed up by the movie predator 2 when a gang with guns and knives got on a train and attempts to rob passengers ,then everyone from young to old pulls out there own gun for protection,now i am not convinced all of the mass shootings of innocent people has something dodgy about them from like the guy posted libor scandal/gun laws, don't get me wrong you will always get a nutter who will kill for killings sake,there is no doubt that the USA government are going to steamroll gun laws and change the 2nd amendment for a greater purpose, with a population of over 300 million that's a lot of guns even if 5 per cent are registered gun owners not including villains) if these laws are passed soon, i can see martial law declared in the USA, got a feeling things are heating up.
frankyscouse

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You get that feeling by listening to Alex Jones.
DELL

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Fake attempt to cry? mate i almost cried myself reading the paper in work today,what happened was horrendous.those little kids so young and innocent,its heartbreaking to think of what happened to them.today the paper is saying this guy had been addicted to call of duty,i somehow doubt that made him do it but why does the media pick out something like a game,and apportion blame on that?
drumlad {Ed001's Note - because it is an easy target to stir up hysteria against. Makes a nice change from blaming rock or rap music though, I guess.}

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Ed i had initially written that i was surprised they havent said that he liked eminem or marilyn manson or slipknot or the like as thats the usual indirect cause.i think it is poor,but i agree about the easy target.it doesnt always nake sense though,what was in hitlers cd collection? lol
drumlad {Ed001's Note - exactly, it is clearly not a cause of anything, my daughter plays violent video games all the time, but she would never do anything like this. It is just easier than admitting your country is a mess and that the media itself is partly to blame. If they didn't have guns at home it would be a start. They are obsessed with the things for 'home security'. All it does is escalate things, when police and every homeowner has a gun, the crims have to have bigger ones.}

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Dell i got that feeling before listening to Alex Jones he only reinforced what i was feeling, drumlad if you feel Obama reaction was genuine then that's up to you but this is the same feller who has no problem using so called smart bombs hitting innocent women and children in the middle east, any slaying of children touches a raw nerve and i do feel for those parents but i am sorry i think he was acting trying to cry, time will tell if these shootings will change the laws, I DO THINK THEY WILL, to the guy who wanted to watch or listen try YouTube feller.
frankyscouse

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Couldnt agree more about the media,i read a day or so ago what morgan freeman had said about the sandy hook tragedy and i agreed with what he said,cant remember it word for word but it was along the lines of,the media were mostly to blame for their coverage and the attention that thier coverage brings,if nobody paid attention to these nutters they would be happy to hang themselves in their basements but they are after the notoriety that their actions bring.i know that this boy lanza did himself in but he knew how it would be covered and surely hoped he would be remembered as the sick little cretin that he is.with regards to what u said about your daughter,i grew up in the gta/call of duty/duke nukem era where i enjoyed tearing around blowing people to bits but these folk surely have some sort of disfunctional upbringing or parents who dont instill the right morals in them.i look at the dnipetrovsk maniacs aswell and just wonder wtf males a human act that way?!
drumlad {Ed001's Note - well exactly, I have been obsessed with martial arts films and watched thousands, but I don't go round kicking people in the head. Upbringing has to take a huge amount of the blame, along with the environment they grow up in.}

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Franky
i never mentioned obama on my previous post i clearly made a statement about alex jones i just think he plays it a bit and gets people geared up just my opinion , i do think Obama will use what has happened to change the gun laws in america think you got confused with what i was trying to get at maybe i should have worded it differently
DELL

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Edd001 i get the impression you and edd33 disagree on motives with these shootings?i might be putting words down that edd33 might not agree with,but you must admit the farther of james holmes in the batman gun slaughter is strange? Holmes was wearing and the firepower he was carrying would cost somewhere in the region of $20,000.

"How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?
the shooting suspect's father, is a senior lead scientist with FICO, the American credit score company. He was scheduled to testify in the next few weeks before a US Senate panel that is investigating the largest bank fraud scandal in world history. This banking fraud threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.

Robert Holmes not only uncovered the true intent of the massive LIBOR banking fraud, but his "predictive algorithm model" also traced the trillions of "hidden"dollars to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who stole it. In other words he could name major people includemembers of Congress, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and EU executives and could even include US Presidential candidates and the British Royal family.this latest shooting could be the final straw?
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - not really disagree, I am just pointing out how unreliable the media is. I am not sure why he would do it, how he would have access to the weaponry etc, but I am damn sure playing video games is not the cause.}

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Franky,i think that there is a detatchment from the use of weapons abroad and the fact that he isnt there to witness it or be directly responsible eg.pressing the button.when something like sandy hook happens i think its the thought that it could possibly have been his kids,his friends kids etc.i felt he was genuine as he seems like a genuine bloke.maybe thats just my opinion.i watched it and i actually felt a little emotional myself,i just found it really hard to accept that anyone could do that.maybe as i have a young son myself it seems really hellish.
drumlad

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Drumlad my youngest girl is 9 and it is upsetting for any normal human being but he is Desensitized and is forcing emotion just my take on it,fair point edd1 the media do jump on the bandwagon and like you mentioned rap songs were once going to get banned because they implied that cops were getting killed because of lyrics ffs,next it will jokes.
frankyscouse

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What do you mean desensitized? i obviously understand the term but dont really follow you there?
drumlad

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He is power and has used that power to kill thousands of innocent people and for the position he has he is more privy to more disturbing images than Joe public, that's why they could not have a prime minster or president like you or me that show genuine emotion ,they are groomed for years not to show any emotion hence my thoughts on Obama pathetic attempts to show emotion.
frankyscouse

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Sorry but i know that he inherited the 'wars' in iraq and afghanistan but im pretty sure that wasnt the guys decision.i see it differently in the sense that i dont really think he has made those decisions. undoubtedly there must be a certain method of training to cope with the darker images and videos he will see, and probable emotional restraint techniques. in this day and age, im believeing little of what i hear and bits and pieces of what i see. i just dont get the impression that hes the emotional cripple you suggest. what i am finding very interesting about this case (for want of a better term) is the ongoing LIBOR case and the connections to adam lanza's father and the batman cinema shooting. again,who knows what to believe.
drumlad

{Ed033's Note - At the end of the day, Obama just does what his handlers tell him to do

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I do not think he is a emotion cripple i think he is cold and calculated .
frankyscouse

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True indeed ed,im pretty sure hes a puppet to a certain degree.
drumlad

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I'm sort of in the middle.

I think being America, its almost expected for the guy to cry on stage whilst he's talking about it, their a very sentimental people so it could be calculated, but thats very cynical. But at the same time your talking about 20 kids aged 6-7 getting riddled with bullets. Many people on here are parents, or have young nephews/ nieces, most of us would have been in absolute bits. Mrs Mort teaches kids the same age and she was in absolute tears just thinking about it. So as i said i'm in the middle on that, could be either way, either he is a cold calculating poltician or he is just a decent human being, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Regards the guy who's supposed to be at the Libor hearings, ok it makes sense but if you wanted to stop the guy testifying surely there is easier ways of doing it than having a school massacre?

I do think thought that it is part of a plot to get the gun laws over turned so making the country easier to control.

As for the whole Obama career and Batman film releases, thats just weird. Very strange.

Mort

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I agree with drumlad Morgan Freeman summed it up brilliantly, he said that names like Adam Lanza will become a household name but no one will remember the victims names, he also said the fact it's the second biggest school shooting in us history behind Virginia tech is ridiculous because why should one mass murdering be compared to another, they are both tragedies and if the media focused more on the victims than the killer than crimes like this would stop as now days people like Lanza are just looking for a way into the record books by going one further than the last guy, he said they have motives to be as evil as possible because they will be remembered. Probably one of the best quotes I've ever read
LP

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Sorry franky,the way you said desensitized i took to pretty much mean emotional cripple.i think you'd have to be cold and calculated to be a president.
drumlad

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Like i said guys many times on here it would be boring if we all agreed ,i am very cynical as you can tell on anything that the ruling classes tell us.
frankyscouse

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Sounds very much like a case of Two birds with one stone trying to cover up the libor scandal plus removing gun laws in one go very cunning there are proper tacticians at work here, jose murinho has a side job.

Jedimindtricks

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18 Dec 2012 08:22:30
Scientists say if niburu was around we would be able to see it, but what if it was directly above the north or South Pole where people don't usually go? Would explain the restricted air space around the 2.

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Would it be possible for niburu to have been destroyed and to have formed An astro belt?

Jedimindtricks

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19 Dec 2012 14:34:38
you'd still see something there's research teams at the poles and usually a celebrity lunatic doing something for charity.

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