Conspiracy Talk Archive March 18 2013

 

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18 Mar 2013 22:21:33
Hey guys what do you make of Villa Epecuen? A real life atlantis. Don't think its a conspiracy but its very interesting.

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Never heard or know anything about Villa Epecuen before today, also found out there was a sunken city that stretched from Northern Scotland across to Denmark and down the English Channel as far as the Channel Islands millions of years ago, the weird thing is they named it doggerland, as we are speaking stan collymore is applying for a boat licence. off to the gym adios

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18 Mar 2013 18:53:09
finally we get to see Aurora
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Aurora-SPFX.jpg

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18 Mar 2013 13:33:59
There was a big write up over the weekend in one of Australia's big papers about UFO's. One sitting was a lady who worked as a flight attendant. She said the light pattern was nothing like she had ever seen and that the UFO went infront of her car at an alarming speed, but she was able to make out the shape of a 'flying saucer'. Another was a young bloke who caught a UFO on his video camera, while he was bouncing on his trampoline in the bush. Both times they said 'experts' were unable to identify the object but they could rule out any commercial or military aircraft. The 'expert' said they had never seen anything like it. Now I by no means now think that Aliens are flying around planet earth, but the more sightings and press the topic gets, the more you have to wonder. Thought you'd like to hear that Frankie mate. Slowly coming round ;-)

Melbourne CFC

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Have you got a link to the stories mate?like I have mentioned before 99. 9 per cent of sightings can be explained but some of the stuff that I have seen can not be man made.

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Just for info, more sightings reported in Mexico & Brazil, some good footage posted. CM68

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http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/is-it-a-bird-or-a-plane-no-its-more-ufos-heading-our-way/story-e6frf7kx-1226598867261

Melbourne CFC

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Cheers 4 the link mate but you have to subscribe to read the paper.

{Ed033's Note - try this link instead.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/victoria/is-it-a-bird-or-a-plane-no-its-more-ufos-heading-our-way/story-fndo4cq1-1226598867261

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Cheers edd just read it, sounds like classic encounters, some professor made a great point and said something on lines of "how often do we really look up in the sky to see if there are ufos?" we just don't do it, on a clear night you can see strange things, if anyone has four thousand pound to buy military infra red binoculars level 4 then lend me them, then again they are banned in the uk, I wonder why?

{Ed033's Note - Maybe this?

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Thats the one edd.

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Military Grade Generation 3 Night Vision just as good mate and are not banned:)

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I am still buggerd I have not got a few thousand pound.

{Ed033's Note - You'll have to club together with others

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How about a conspiracy regulars campaign to get me the binoculars?if they work I will do a timeshare with everyone or if any mi6 or military people who go on this site can you lend me then? {Ed001's Note - I have some slummy in a jar you can have franky? Probably a tenner's worth altogether.....}

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Nice one edd that will cover the postage (i hope) only £2900 to go, going to look on ebay to see if I can get me a bargin.

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18 Mar 2013 00:06:16
If as a country we wanted to save some money to help with the debt then the royal family would be a great place to start. How about dramatically cutting the civil list and stop paying money to all the hangers on prince of this and duke of that. Just cut it to six people. Queen and husband, charles and wife, william and wife and let the rest fend for themselves. Some of them like harry work already anyway. Also cut down on the number of palaces. Sandringham would make a great golf course and kensington would make a great hotel. But of course that's too radical. We're all in this together but some of us less than others.

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18 Mar 2013 06:48:55
Why not continue with MPs? Do they really need a salary larger than most? Do they need to claim for a second home? Why not cap their wage at the national average? Then convert a disused building into communal housing for MPs?

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18 Mar 2013 10:25:13
I like that. Good suggestion. Although i'd end the whole expenses rubbish first make them live within their means on their already generous wages. I'd cut the number as well by around ten per cent that would save another shedload. I'd still trim the royals down as well though. And the house of lords can go.

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I would get rid of the monarchy all together if they wanted to live here tax them threw the ass like everyone else, no privileges and see how long they would stay until they fled to a tx haven country, then I would raise the minimum wage and make it only british born citizens can apply for the jobs that would mean no mass exodus to this country from foreigners to undercut and work for buttons, as for politicians I would make it a lot easier for independent people who want to run our country and get the same crack of the whip and airtime as the three hybrids labour/cons/libs.

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Yeah agree we may not have the Royal family here in Ireland but Enda Kenny earns more than O Bama! Now that sure as hell should not be!

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"only british born citizens can apply for the jobs"

I am surprised at this statement by a poster I enjoy reading on here. You do realise Franky that the entity that is Britain, like its empire before it, has been, is now and will continue to be sustained by people who are not British. What next only Church of England people need apply for the jobs. After that maybe only white British people for the jobs. I appreciate your post in no way advocates anything like I suggest above, nor have you ever in a post I might add. However, if as a society we restrict access to jobs, and the benefits they bring, solely based on a nationalistic view then the outcome will be a form of Fascism, as it always has been. I hear the same idea here in Ireland about foreign people 'taking our jobs'. The answers will never be found by blaming people who simply strive to live a better life and in most cases end up doing the jobs some people now, for whatever misguided reason, deem menial.

A Very Disappointed Franky Fan.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds like you think you caught someone being politically incorrect on here which then due to government brainwashing gives you some false sense of moral high ground.

A Very Disappointed Ed

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18 Mar 2013 13:52:50
i've no problem with qualified foreigners coming here to work. After all the nhs would probably have collapsed without all the foreign nurses and doctors who come over. Anyone who's spent anytime in a and e will appreciate that. My dentist is romanian. Lovely girl, best dentist i've ever had and not just because she is extremely pretty either. I do feel that some of these countries would be better served by the best and brightest staying put and improving their countries rather than a brain drain to britain. But the issue I think most people have are those coming for the benefits which I think should be restricted. It should be like canada or australia no job no entry. Mort

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You'd be surprised Mort. Australia is currently seeing the biggest influx in foreigners for a long time. The most alarming thing is most are coming illegally, on boats, in the knowledge they will be taken to a processing centre, where they will be fed and get shelter. Now these ILLEGAL immigrants are complaining that the conditions in these processing centres are not up to scratch and the oz government has to help them, at a cost to the taxpayer. Some of these 'boat people' have so much nerve that they are calling our Navy, while in Indonesian waters, and claiming that their boat is sinking. When the navy gets to them, they realise this isn't the case and that the boat operators just want the Navy to taxi them back to Oz.

Now, like you, I have absolutely no problem with qualified workers coming and helping certain industries, where job shortages come about and when they take the correct avenues in obtaining working visas, however, it is becoming more and more about people coming solely to receive benefit payments and have our Goverment take care of them, whether they come legally and sit on the dole, or illegally and get put up in a processing centre at a cost to me and the rest of Australia. It's bs mate and the Australian government needs to act accordingly. It's becoming a serious problem on our shores mate.

Melbourne CFC

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If wanting to get rid of the monarchy and stopping a influx of nationalities coming to this country for work then lining the pockets of greedy corporations who want them to work for buttons which undercuts the British workers, I don't know why you are bringing religion or the color of skin in to it , its simple more people are getting shafted with the minimum wage doing a 30 to 40 hour week different nationalities are willing to do that and in some cases not all but the money goes out the country to were they were born, and who stands to gain? the agency's and corporations who hire them, as for the menial job that is beneath us, give a decent wage and you will find people putting there hand up, this is not a attack on honest decent workers from abroad this is a attack on the corporations who want more more and more money.

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18 Mar 2013 15:49:04
cheers for the update melbourne. It is getting a problem in pretty much every first world country. We're handicapped with europe's daft human rights laws that say we have to put them up when we should be putting them straight on a plane back. Don't get me wrong I don't mind helping people who genuinely need it but when people are crossing half the continent just to get here because we're seen as a soft touch it is out of hand. The welfare state was created as a safety net for the genuinely disadvantaged, not for all and sundry, foreign and domestic to dip into. And its about time we went back to what it was created for. I think the governments however want these people here. Its like that guy said the other week, the creation of a slave class to do all the rubbish jobs. They don't mind minimum wage and won't kick up a fuss as they can simply be kicked back out. Mort

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Oh my goodness I find myself agreeing with Franky again, that's like twice in a week. Well said Franky.

red walter

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Ed it seems that you are the one who is brainwashed. The ideas of nationalism and patriotism are the biggest tools of mind control ever invented apart from religion.
People have a right to live and work wherever they want. Just because you are fortunate enough to be born in a place with a higher standard living than most doesn't give you a monopoly over it. We're all human beings, no state or organization should have the right to limit one's right to exist where they want to exist.
David Millaclegg

{Ed033's Note - We've all been brainwashed, some of us more than others

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In reply to Ed. 033

My reply to Franky was not in anyway associated with political correctness. Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly and maybe I should have clarified my statement in the way Mort replied. You however seem to class me as one of the brainwashed people because I dare address how I viewed the topic. I in no way consider myself to have any level of moral authority above another person. However, I do feel your response is more expressive of one who deems themselves morally superior as you judge me brainwashed by government. I am the furthest imaginable from having 'government brainwashing' as you put it. The fact I raised the question of 'nationalism' seems to have upset your sensibilities. I am on this site because I find it informative and enjoyable when seeking information outside of the mass media rubbish that we are fed every day. If for some reason my comment offended you personally then I apologize. Isn't blaming foreigners for a country's troubles the oldest trick in the book? It has been used repeatedly by governments to brainwash the people, people who do not see the truth of a governments failings. I actively seek out the links you place on here so maybe I've been brainwashed by this site instead :-)

A Once Disappointed but now Confused and Continued Fan of the Site.

{Ed033's Note - Apology Accepted, Captain Needa.

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Well it looks like I got a poster name from this.

Captain Needa

{Ed033's Note - You don't know the power of the dark side!

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Patriotism is loving your own country, nationalism is hating everybody else's countries.

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{Ed033's Note - Apology Accepted, Captain Needa.

Like it Ed33 or is that DV?

{Ed033's Note - "The force is strong with this one."

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Franky agreed its the multi national corporations again, shafting people all over.

I do feel sorry for some of these people who risk a lot to travel half way around the world from hell holes, trying to get to a better life and make some money and then end up living in dingy hellholes, 6 or more to a room working 40+ hours a week and paid a slave wage.

And to think Labour contributed to this, with the dismantling of the borders and the introduction of the minimum wage, makes my blood boil! You expect those kind of shenanigans from the Tories. Not the party created by the workers for the workers.

Mort

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18 Mar 2013 20:41:47
Careful boys and girls or should that be comrades, your about to break out into the internationale

{Ed033's Note - Comrade Cameron would be proud

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Sorry mate as you have not left a name to address you, when have I blamed foreigners for the uk troubles? if you read what a lot of the time I have blamed governments and corporations for this and trying to make me out as xenophobic is out of order.

{Ed033's Note - Franky, now their name is, Captain Needa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwio208q3jY

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Mort that's my whole point its like this country is run by corporations and these corporations are hiring in the public and private sector people on a basic on minimum wage, now people always bring up the lazy benefits people, my wife has always worked in fact she hates not doing anything since she got made redundant we worked it out we are actually better off claiming benefits and that can't be right, unless youre a qualified tradesman (even that is no guarantee now) a blue collar worker has no chance and to me it is a premeditated act by the same type of people who had kids working in Asia for 35p a day they want to corner the market and pay as less as they can for a product to be made/delivered.

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Captain needa it is then.

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18 Mar 2013 23:29:00
i'd like to see a real life version of the hunger games but with politicians. Would be entertaining.

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Franky,

I wasn't trying to make out you were xenophobic or blaming any foreigners. I specifically mention in the post that you never have advocated anything like I mention in the post. My point, which wasn't made clearly, was that it is by blaming foreigners that society has gone down a nasty route every time in history. This has been used many times by various governments. I agree completely with the view that multinational corporations have governments in their pockets and are a major cause of peoples troubles. No offence was intended towards anyone, be it you or the ed.

Captain Needa

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Jesus I only just got on to the captain needa lol sorry miles away, edd dv turns good in the end so there's time for ya lol goodnight feller.

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Captain needa I think you are missing my point I am blaming governments/corporations of every country for not looking after there own citizens, ok mate no offence took. definitely off 2 bed.

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