Conspiracy Talk Archive October 19 2011

 

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19 Oct 2011 23:36:53
Hi all, it's been a while since I have really been on here, I've missed it!

Just wondered if anyone has seen the new Eurostar advert in conjunction with the 2012 Olympics?

I have to say, after watching some things...ahem...like the Arrivals...I watched the ad just now and I have had to ask myself did I really just see a load of NWO symbolism or not?

Wondered what other people think?

Here's the ad on youtube:

youtube.com/watch?v=fzylqHGQrXM

Peace.
Raz

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Couldn't see anything mate, tell me where?

Catholic M

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I thought something was odd with it the other night just couldn't place what...

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Hi Catholic M - I am not sure if you know but if various stories or theories are true, 2012 is the year that Zionists restore Zion. Studies into this reveal Israel to be Zion, so we can expect a new leader to be elected to rule Israel and maybe even surrounding territories, starting sometime in 2012.
The 2012 Olympic logo also clearly spells Zion just as much as it spells 2012.
The advert for the Eurostar that I linked shows what COULD be taken as NWO symbolism - the armada of 3 different governments, I think it's UK, US and one other....then the random part where the guy is at the top of some sort of pyramid, that's arguably a direct reference to the all-seeing eye and the anti-christ coming to rule rule. I saw those bits and pieces and thought 'hmmmmmmm', and then there it was - 'in association with the 202 Olympics' .... I just thought 'yeah, right...'

Just as with all of these things it is open to interpretation but if someone chose to make the Arrivals in the next few months instead of having already done it, I would put money on them including this advert in their film.
Raz

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Thanks Raz, very interesting..

Catholic M

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19 Oct 2011 21:06:24
Anyone else coming to George Square, Glasgow city centre tomorrow for the occupy the world protest?
I for one can't wait to stand alongside my brothers and sisters and have our voices heard!

Love and power to the people

Jay

Glasgow

Ps. Hopefully this is the start of a new era for all of us, one that can see us all live without war and famine, and live in appreciation of one another!!

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Jay, whilst i agree with the sentiment its only worthwhile if things actually change. Alas the cynic within me feels this wont happen and that it'll peater out as the cold weather kicks in, lack of media coverage kicks in, etc. And then the fat cats will just put their feet up and light another cigar whilst planning their next step.

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Only thing I don't like about it Jay, is these things are often an excuse for - and I use the term loosely, as I have a lot of friends who are of this ilk - hippies who use this sort of thing as the reason why they don't want to work, pay taxes and pay their way in life.

Nothing more annoying than seeing someone who's never done a hard day's work, never paid a penny towards tax and national insurance and never been stung by bank charges......protesting abotu this sort of thing.

RED_SKY

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Agreed REDSKY

That is an annoying part of it!

Jay

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19 Oct 2011 20:38:59
Notice how very little media attention the world wide anti greed protests have gotten,loads of stuff on the internet yet barely a page in a newspaper or a snippet on the radio and television,i think theres been rapid change in sheeples mindset and the powers that be are running scared,they must have seen whats gone in the middle east.people of all creeds and colour have had enough and the revolution will not be televised.
Sudaname

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This is by design. Mainstream media outlets are governed by the very greedy.

I wouldn't say "they" are scared at the moment, protests are nothing new and they can make the sheeple suffer quicker and with deeper effect than the opposite.

However, with the internet; sites like this and mobile devices with multiple ways of sharing information, momentum has increased and more people are awakening to the realisation we are all being shafted.

This is our best chance yet as our freedoms are slowly being erroded.

Paragon

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There is an Occupy Wall Street group on facebook, not to mention the usual pages like infowars etc and they have been amazing at bringing the news on all this to people.
I would strongly recommend anyone interested in any of the topics we usually always discuss to join the Chemtrails group on facebook - they send out info seemingly every minute on anything to do with conspiracies, not just chemtrails, and it is bang on most of the time.
Raz

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Why arent the occupiers railing against the government. Its regulation, bailouts, and entitlements that have caused it all

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Its the lack of regulation that caused this. It was typical poor socialist economic planning that caused this mess. No i'm not saying that the tories can or will do any better. They both go too far in the other direction. Tories run things more different and balance the books but don't care about people. labour run up huge debts by throwing too much money at their pet causes. Do we need so many people on benefits? do we need well earning middle class families taking money back out with tax credits and child credits.

We need an approach that balances the books whilst caring about the people that genuinely need help and giving them the help rather than just chucking cash at them and cocooning them in benefits for life.

Personally i think they made a massive mistake in bailing out northen rock, once they did that all the rest expected the same help and it cost us taxpayers billions. If they'd let it go under it would have served as an example to the rest to get their own houses in order as they would get no help. remember the tories let barings go under and their debts were much smaller in comparison.

besides the govt that caused this mess are no longer in power so how can you rail against them?

the govt thats in power however do need to come up with other ideas and fast.

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The outrageous growth of the current adminastration is compounding an already overwhelming situation. Secondly to discern any diference in this govt and the last is a falacy. They both have stretched the long arm of big govt further outward simply by different means. The bush admin striped us personal liberties and free will in the name security. The obama admin has stripped us of those same things fiscally. They are simply two side of the forked tongue that is "democracy" in this system designed by the council on foreign relations and illuminati forefathers

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19 Oct 2011 15:27:31
I don't know about aliens or ghost but what about the ultimate truth -DEATH.
Apart from its inevitability, what do we know about it?
what happens when we die? do we just die and nothing except void will take over or is it just a long sleep, and we will keep dreaming till we might wake up again ?
The experience of death can't be shared so will we ever know what happens after?
so after death do we cease to exist or apart from our body including brain which gets destroyed, our soul/spirit lives. If so what is spirit/soul? what happens to it after death, how can we know about it? May be i'm just rambling but it's intriguing.
What hurts inside us when we are in despair or when our loved ones pass away? where do the feelings like pride, love, hate generate? is it just brain and thus with its destruction nothing of us or our memory, our awareness of oneself ,experiences is destroyed with our death? or ...

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Deep Thought calculated the answer as 42 :)

Wow, a lot of thoughts/questions there and topics i cannot form a solid opinion on....Due to the amount of unknowns, how can you observe the unknown?...Arrgghhh, screwing my head already!

Intrigued what the Eds et al have to say.

Paragon {Ed001's Note - the only thing you can do is read up on the experiences of those who have died and been resuscitated. The recollections I have read did seem very similar, but I wonder how much of that is real memories and how much is the power of suggestion. After all we always see the light etc on TV, maybe they are recounting what they believe happens because they don't actually remember anything.}

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In Torchwood series 1 it was just a void, nothing but i put that more down to the writers being atheists.

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The thing i find interesting is the people young and old that die and are brought back to life in hosiptal and are able to even tell about what their friends, family were saying to each other when they left their bobies and where able to hear in the waiting rooms etc, so there is life after death............lfc

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Probably well out my depth here, but in a resuscitation situation the brain is not yet dead even if the heart has stopped, so some if not all of the sensory organs are still working, albeit heavilly compromised.

This would explain why people can recall events whilst they were technically dead, at least with things that are within hearing/seeing/touching/smelling/taste distance ...this obviously doesn't cover remote hearing or viewing, ie things outside the above, but its a start??

Paragon

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I do believe in life after death but the rececutation logic doesnt compute with me because what if thats just simply the effect of rapic chemical secretions our brain has developed over centuries to ease the pain of deat. No matter how instant ones death occurs theres always a moment of realization first and why wouldnt we have devoloped a mechanism for coping.

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