Conspiracy Talk Archive September 19 2011

 

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19 Sep 2011 22:14:49
How can I join the illuminati? Have they got a website? Do they take visa electron?
Ultra Red {Ed033's Note - I think firstly you might need to be within 1% of the special bloodline that they think they are all part of.}

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Send your cheque.card payments to
Andy Caroll
LFC

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Check Ancestry.co.uk first.

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Andy Carrol an illuminati member?

Glad he is a member of Something?

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19 Sep 2011 21:52:16
ed i got told today about winston churchill and a ufo cover-up something along the lines he said bout they are not ready for this not for at least another 50 years.can you or anyone shed some light on this.thanks.DORSET RED {Ed033's Note - Here is the BBC's spin on Churchill covering up Ufo's - www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3LMUvfvN8 Eisenhower allegedly met with ETs around the same era. The Brookings report of the 1960's said people couldn't handle knowing about Extra Terrestrials and all Governments agreed.}

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Is this to do with the greys landing and offering technological advancement for allowance of experimentation on humans? Heard the government were warned previously by another alien race not to deal with this kind, typical good judgement by the people in charge eh?

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19 Sep 2011 21:00:04
What is it we must not know?

We must not know that

1. We are slaves

2. We exist to serve the illuminati as their stock whether we admit to that or not

3. That demoracy is a veil and not real


4. That the while race is being broken down
The black race will be next

5. The religion is used only to keep the masses under control

6. That your government constantly lies to you

7. That you are nothing but a pawn in the game of the illuminati

8. That most of what you believe in is false

9. That the media is owned by the illuminati and used to program you each day

10. That your only salvation is to seek the lord and forget about posessions

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All looked pretty ordinary until you said seek the lord, then lost all credibilty. Only the most dimwitted and simple minded morons believe there is a lord.

Chris on Tamworth

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U say number 5 religion is to keep us under control yet number 10 u say we must seek the lord.

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Type illuminati back words in to google
itanimulli

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Religion and the lord are not the same thing

Religion is for the organized masses

The lord is for the truly enlightened

You really need some education {Ed033's Note - Maybe you need to define exactly which lord you are talking about.}

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Well I'm enlightened for one!

I seem to have found another site called Talk Religion, yet can't find any reference to it, is this another sign from the Illuminati?

dmedly

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The Lord is creator, God, Jesus.

However organized religion gets in the way of god, Chris in tamworth has obviously seen this but has made a wrong turn.

Organiized religion is a barrier to spiritual awareness, its just a control mechanism to keep the msses under control, tool of the illuminati likewise the UN and other organizations.

Most religions are a boys club that openly discriminate against women.

For to be truly enlightened religion must be transcended, there are over 2000 bibles which one is correct?

There are also bibles of Judas very diffferent from the regular ones which are correct?

Once you move past religion, become more in tune with nature and the universe you can become more aware of the Lord, until that time darkness blocks the Lord.

Once you understand the forces that shape the physical world you can make better decisions and have a happier life.

If I had known what I understand now when I was younger I would have made very different choices and made better decisions, many young people read these sites if just one person gains some insight from this post that sets them on a better path in life my time spent here on this forum will have been time well spent.

Personal attacks mean nothing to me.


God and the devil are two sides of the one coin, like ying and yang there exists duality.

Some people on this earth are truly evil.

I hope you print this post it insults no one and is meant to get readers thining for themselves.

Some conspiracy theories are over blown others are not, whehter we wish to acknowledge the hidden hand or not does not matter, its exists. What does matter is how it will unknowingly shape your life?

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No its a sign of a search engine

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Mad that typed it in backwords greated a url and u end up at the nsa strange.

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19 Sep 2011 20:10:14
ok being serious now something to look at

controversialhistory.blogspot.com/2007/10/myth-of-ancient-nuclear-war.html


nasca.org.uk/Ancient_Nuc__War/ancient_nuc__war.html


sacred-texts.com/ufo/ourpast.htm


rense.com/general3/8000.htm

bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_ancient_atomic.htm

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19 Sep 2011 12:44:42
Just typed 'Why is 7Up called 7Up?" into google, got onto one of those yahoo answer page, one of them was 'Is it something to do with bowling in america a certain type of game'.... hilarious... Mecca Bowling....

If you know the story you will find this funny!

Raz

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I thought it was because of the number of ingredients? Do you know better Raz?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed007's Note - Have a read at this Chris:

www.snopes.com/business/names/7up.asp

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So I could be right then

Chris in Tamworth

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Well if you read that what is very clear is that 1) nobody really knows the reason for the name, 2) by today's standards there are way more ingredients than 7 in it and even back in the days of its inception, ingredients, if at all labelled, were not so loosely categorised in groups (that would come under 'nutritional info').
3) The chat about card/gambling things and 7 being a luck number is also debunked because he got private investors help set it up...if there 7 investors, that would have been interesting!

The reason I typed it in the first place is that I saw somewhere that it takes its name from the concept of their being 7 energy planes or Chakras that a human can master, and it is named after them... true or not, who knows.

The place int he world where you go to elevate and awaken these at least once in your life is Mecca, you walk round the central thing anti clockwise (to impersonate the direction of energy flow) 7 times. So when that answer said something to do with American bowling I laughed.

However, I have just realised it is Mecca Bingo, not bowling as far as I know, so I have just debunked my own statement , woops.

Raz

hence why

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*hence why was an error sorry.

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Its actually an in joke by the Illuminati to their brethern, and it refers to how many stages of the plan have been completed so for...... {Ed033's Note - In George H.W. Bush's "New World Order" speech, some powerful group were telling us something when he said on their behalf something along the lines of, 'and now to our fifth agenda', in that speech on September 11 1981. }

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Yeah I don't think it represented that 7 major stages had been completed but I would be happy to hear if someone thinks so, what stages?
Raz

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See there must be something in it then.

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1 Creation of United States.

2. Spreading free masonary and establishing international banking.

3. Invention of Socialism.

4. WW1

5. WW2.

6. Cold War and erosion of freedom's, control of media and politics confirmed.

7. Invention of the internet and wider moves into mainstream culture.

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Yeah but you could add to that:

convince people god doesn't exist by creating acts of terror

Convince people god doesn't exist by not curing starvation and famine

Convince people there is no god by inventing the theories of evolution.

Ensuring the teachings of histories and theory of evolution is selective.

Creation of Zion.

Even if you combined all of the above and kept Zion separate you'd still have 9 things... {Ed033's Note - For those that don't know, the 2012 Olympic Games logo is actually spelling ZION not 2012, and when Lord Seb Coe was asked why the 2012 Olympic Games logo spells out Zion not 2012, he replied by just saying, "it's something we believe in" but he didn't say who he meant by WE.}

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Plus 7 up was invented before ww2.

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Ed no way that is mad. Well I say that one stipulation of the Illuminati is to make sure people are aware of them. Some people say they don't exist, I fail to agree because they are not in hiding - they may do occult things and their meetings are occult, and how they run the world/or not is secret, but the fact that they exist. and what they worship, etc etc, is not at all secret, that's why we see their s**t in madona videos and celine album artwork and why films like Angels and Demons gets made, and why they will put Zion in the 2012 logo and not deny it. And people still wont believe they are up to something!
Raz

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Invention of tv should be on that list, providing a means to spread subliminal messages, paranoia, and ensure the masses are dumbing down their brains. An image is more numbing than a radio report. Now we have 3d tv and film, it is even worse. Video games are playing their part now too. Look for all the illuminati signs in games, checkered floors, the single eye, etc. They are throwing it in peoples faces, as if to say yes this is happening and there is nothing you can do.

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Agreed. So in summary I think we can safely say that 7Up is not named after 7 critical stages of Illuminati action plan haha.
Raz

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19 Sep 2011 11:39:16
Just found out something really interesting.
Basically the concept of NWO (ie. what Illuminati is gearing towards) boils down to an eventual war of the bloodlines.

History says that Egyptian Pharaohs migrated to Europe, and then the same bloodline went to America.
Royal incest is of course a historical regular.

It is also stated that Tom Hanks, Celine Dion, and Madonna (among others) are all Illuminati puppets. And of course that all the American presidents are puppets and all that.

Turns out that all the American presidents, including Obama, are all of the same bloodline and are all distant cousins. Cheney: Bush's 9th cousin, once removed. Obama is Cheney's cousin. Obama is also Bush's 11th cousin. Linclon was Bush's 7th cousin, 5 times removed. John Carey - Bush's 9th cousin, twice removed. Keep this going and you see Madonna, Dion and Hanks all in there. All three have played major roles in flaunting the Illuminati one way or another in public- especially Madonna, and maybe most notably Hanks in Angels and Demons.

Wtf!

Raz

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Raz , do you not think that most people if tracing back a bit can find they are a secound or third cousin to lots of famous names , i dont go along with the bloodline thing , its more rich people and royalitly marry into each others circle , at least thats what i think , i think theres bigger things to look into........lfc

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The Illuminati are an indie rock band out of seattle

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If you trace back far enough ALL Europeans come from the bloodline of Charlmagne, so bloodlines have nothing to do with it.

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All fair points... my aim was to spark conversation. I too considered the same thing, that surely if we all descend from Egyptians then we are all somehow related. I just thought it was interesting. Maybe, if I am to advocate this further, which is fun, I would question the degrees of separation as being a factor. I.e. Madonna, someone in the media with the closest blood link possible to the people of power, also Celine, also Hanks? Compared with, say, Paris Hilton who may be, as an example, the 100th cousin, 5 times removed....

Ultimately this stuff doesn't change my life but it is certainly entertaining to think about it.

Raz

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Let me tell you about the Illuminati:

The illuminati were the bankers to royalty and the popes, Mainly along French blood lines

Around the 15th Century the Illumanati went underground and disappeared as if they didn't exist.

The illumanati are no fools that how they became rich like the A team who hide out in the LA underground the Illumanati jig out in high class society places where you and I would never be

So what you goona do brother when the Illumanati run wild over you?

The hidden hand

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Raz , have you looked into the freeman of the land stuff , and common law , its very interesting , as most people have no idea of laws and their rights...........lfc {Ed033's Note - Certainly it is very beneficial for anyone to look into contract law.}

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No I haven't, cheers mate I will have a gander later.
Raz

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Whilst typing my own thoughts and questions to the ealier posts on the Illuminati subject, my connection was lost a split second after hitting the send button and my post has been lost....conspiracy or what? :)

Paragon

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Is the Illuminati a seperate entity like the Freemasons, Bilderberg, Skull & bones, Knights Of Malta etc or are they the umbrella that sits atop? Either way it is all about great knowledge, not bloodlines as someone pointed out earlier bloodlines can be diluted so much that even my best mates left ear could be related to wealth or royalty. You only need to look at some of the massive building projects undertaken by the Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Mayans and so on that these were not primitive civilisations but civilisations in possession of great knowledge. That knowledge has now spread the world but is only known to a few for if we were all enlightened then no one would be more knowledgeable or powerfull than another...there would be no fun in that! To the "enightened" ones it is imperative that the masses stay psychologically repressed, what is it that we must not find out but they will go to great lengths to protect? They have the ability to select Presidents/Prime ministers, Governments, control banking, fuels, telecoms, commit atrocities beyond belief blame others, have patsies at the ready and start wars etc....what is it WE MUST NOT KNOW?

Paragon

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That the ancients great secret was that the perfect omelette is made with 2 eggs and not 3.....

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I'd say more like the Umbrella mate. The Freemasons do the building work for the Illuminati, and within the building's design, architecture, structure, architectural ratios (Google, The Golden Ratio) there are obvious and encoded messages that survive for as long as the structure does.
Skull and Bones is an emblem of a faction or generation that stood for reps of the Illuminati, but in a public domain e.g. presidents. They would have the emblem on the table cloth of old conferences, that sort of thing, they made ...ahem...bones of that fact either. Sorry couldn't resist!
They are Illuminati because they are enlightened - i.e. they believe or know Lucifer exists and the ANtichrist is coming. What they know within that, and what they practice at their occult meetings and rituals, is way more secret but there are theories. That is a knowledge they will claim over us 'sheeple' as someone/you called us. That we are being mind-controlled could be another part of that knowledge.

So the Iluminati is not necessarly separate but it is deffo larger than the other things, although after dinner I am going to google Knights of Malta and Bilderberg mate.

Raz

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Wrong: the perfect omelette is the Vomelette.

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Raz i was looking at something on bilderberg the other day.

To be honest i do doubt a lot of it, if they were so secret then how come so much has been uncovered?

And a secret society of devil worshippers plotting for how many centuries?

There's a lot i can;t quite take seriously although granted a lot of it is starting to add up.

have you seen the one on the street map of washington dc and how most of it was laid out in freemason symbology?

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The illumanati are in breds

They marry within themselves so as to not dilute their wealth

Their bloodlines are not diluted so your mates ear is not in any way connected to the illumanati.

They mix only in the highest high of the echelons of sociiety I doubt your mate would be welcome there


They control big banks, the drug industry, insurance companies, are senior bond holders to all the countries in the world, they make Abramovich seem like a poor lowly peasant.

They are not stupid people mad yes stupid no.

The hidden hand

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In response to the second above this: the Illuminati do not wish to keep themselves secret. They may be underground but that is a very different thing. They have occult meetings and rituals yes, but they as an organisation have been systematically dripfeeding society with elements of rituals for centuries. Some people misconstrue being secretive with being a secret organisation, which isn't quite right. Think about it like this: in order to create NWO you have to control the people, let them know you are there, create Zion, CREATE an disaster/world crises like never felt before, unleash it, then come riding in and rid the world of it, and elect the new world leader who shall rule from zion claiming to be the messiah (this is the antichrist). So it isn't in their interest to stay secret.
Raz {Ed033's Note - David Icke said a long time ago that what is going on is so bizarre that nobody will believe it.}

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With reference to the post above in which they say "Think about it like this: in order to create NWO you have to control the people, let them know you are there, create Zion, CREATE an disaster/world crises like never felt before, unleash it, then come riding in and rid the world of it, and elect the new world leader who shall rule from zion claiming to be the messiah" is a perfect description to what David Icke defined as the totalitarian tiptoe.

Paragon

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Marry within themselves to protect wealth i agree with, but they cannot procreate amongst themselves endlessly without weakening the gene pool and we all know what happens when this occurrs. So, it is theoretically possible that my mate may be of good enough stock to facilitate their longevity.

Paragon {Ed033's Note - They have offspring with their servant maids. They obviously can't in-breed too much but it's about blood lines not DNA. If you're within 1% of the special bloodline, you are considered special and get treated accordingly.}

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The reason they wish to control the world is because of the in breeding as they have all become mad.

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What Ed said. You won't get mums and sons anymore like you used to, but 9th cousins, 6th cousins once removed, that sort of thing, still within the acceptable bloodline...

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19 Sep 2011 11:01:51
Anyone read The Secret by Rhonda Byrne?

Raz

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There is no secret, no illuminati everything that happens is a random act, wink wink

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Move along like good chaps no conspiracy here

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Noel Edmonds swears reading the book turned his life around for the good, my missus loves the book

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Of course women enjoy this book they are more in tune with the universe then men, the hand that rocks the craddle rules the world

The hidden hand

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Sure you know by now that only weak minds believe in such tom foolery as the illuminati, secret societies and people that are out to use others for their own benefit?

Don't you?

The secret its only a bit of fun, soon the secret the board game will be out! Its a bit like snakes and ladders, ludo etc. only electronic


The hidden hand {Ed033's Note - You can buy the Deluxe Illuminati Board Game from amazon - www.amazon.com/Vintage-Sports-Cards-Inc-1305SJG/dp/1556343841

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YES Ed0033

I bet you have it? {Ed033's Note - I actually don't but some people have said that the pictures on the board game cards showed events of the future when the game first came out.}

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ED033

I was being condescending in this thread!
Re: the board game thing

The illuminati are very dangerous and many lives have been shattered by them if people understood more the role they play in our lives they may make different better decisions? {Ed033's Note - This maybe off topic a bit but I personally think that people in general will only wake up when they become uncomfortable. However the agenda appears to only allow 1% of the population to be comfortable (the 1% within the special bloodline and having all the wealth) so it will be interesting when the tipping point is reached when enough people become uncomfortable.}

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I would agree with you but there is one problem as people live a live that is not real how do they know when they are uncomfortable?

For they know nothing other than the life they have?


I don't think its off topic?

If you want a conspiracy forum its has to be one that allows those who participate think!

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Ed,

I havent played the illuminati board game but have seen videos on youtube and read about it. Gets u thinking about every major thing that has happened. The cards show two buildings similar to the wtc with one on fire (the only thing off is the card is marked nuclear attack, but this has been speculated as poss true as the way the buildings fell n reports of an explosion inside could have been done using a micro amount of nuclear matter), one has the pentagon on fire, in the centre of the building with no real damage to the whole building (again, bit off but can be backed up to some extent), another has people running from a catastrophe which shows a clock tower falling, not too dissimilar to big ben (the people running on the card each have diff coloured tops on, matching the olympic flag colours. London 2012 anyone?) and there are further ones on pandemics (slow acting viruses introduced to population ie aids, bird/swine flu) and weather control (look into chemical trails across america on youtube, u wont believe what u see).

Remember people, this game appeared in the late eighties and was released in 93, yet the pictures and images are chillingly accurate of current events. Worth a look if anyone is interested.

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Weather control is entirely possiblel and is used as a weapon of the illuminati

Look up HARRP google it a machine developed by the russians but stolen from them by the illuminati that controls the american government

Many natural disaters that have occured in this world were not the result of mother nature but were the result of the HARRP

The hidden hand

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19 Sep 2011 08:12:54
stuff planning permission, support the dale farm people , human rights , make the place legal , theres kids in there , theres more to life than rules and regulations...........lfc

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You Support Slavery?

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What exactly are you saying here lfc?

Raz

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Just they should let the people stay there , its all red tape and because they are poor people , they will get moved on , yet they will build houses for the weathly and councils will give land away for money and to help line their own pockets , as in backhanders from big companys , we should stick up for the poor.........lfc

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Sorry lfc but they should clearly just bog of back to Ireland and take the rest of them with them.

They pay no tax, contribute nothing to the economy and yet expect my hard earned wages to pay for their kids to go to school and hospital, well sorry but this sheep is making a stand baaah!

And have you ever met a poor pikey? {Ed001's Note - at least one of the 'travellers' on the Dale Farm site owns an estate in Ireland. They have had ten years to find somewhere else to live and have refused to accept a single legal decision that has gone against them. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, if I had illegally built so much as a shed on my land it would get knocked down immediately.}

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Exactly ed001.

Also correct me if i am wrong but the key word here is traveller. they don't seem to be doing much of it do they, camped there for 10 years with all mod cons. {Ed001's Note - exactly. They turned down the offer of perfectly good houses, purely because they say it is against their beliefs to settle down. But then they park their caravans and never move them anyway. Madness. But if you want to live in a country, you should abide by its laws or go somewhere else and that should apply to everyone.}

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Exactly, but no politician has the balls ED. {Ed001's Note - they do in many other countries around the world. If you go to Australia and completely disregard the laws of the land, the planning regulations etc the way the Dale Farm residents have, you would be on the next ship home.}

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Its democracy gone mad!

The hidden hand {Ed033's Note - I think democracy is rubbish anyway as it is mob-rule. Living in a sovereign republic sounds much better to me.}

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Not really ED033

Its just another Veil however good it sounds!

The hidden hand

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