Conspiracy Talk Archive March 20 2013

 

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20 Mar 2013 22:04:11
i always criticize the mainstream media for putting up propaganda but I have to give credit to bbc2 for showing "Iraq did my son die in vain?" were a farther of a raf reservist gets killed in Basra and travels to see how the people are now since the british have left, I won't tell you the story but it will be probably be on youtube in the next week or so and I will send the link to this site, well worth a watch.

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Must check if it's on the tv player. There's a good piece on Democray Now with Arundhati Roy. She has been outspoken against the war from day one and continues to do so. Her speech from 2003 in New York is outstanding and I would urge anyone who has not seen it to do so. I'm being a little biased as I've had the hots for her since I read her book 20 years ago :-).

Captain Needa

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/18/arundhati_roy_on_iraq_wars_10th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnMWZ_VQ5M

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Nice one captain will check it out later.

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20 Mar 2013 21:22:09
{Ed033's Note - Larken Rose - Protest for Bradley Manning's 1,000th Day in Prison

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I hope Manning will tell he's story if and when he gets out.

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A real shame what happened to this young man with morals, he sent info to wiki leaks and got jailed, now how did that work?

Murp.

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20 Mar 2013 17:48:30
Just wondering your thoughts on freemasonry or Freemasons in general.

Jimmy J. D

{Ed033's Note - Any freemason below the 33rd degree in scottish rite isn't going to experience/notice any evil conspiracy within their lodge, I would have thought.

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Thanks for the reply ed but what about the 33rd degree masons in each individual lodge do u think they are involved in anything or is it just nonsense.

. I believe I'm right when I say the 33rd degree is know as 'filling the dead mans shoes' as you can only become a 33rd degree Mason when another one passes away?

{Ed033's Note - There are allegedly degrees above the 33rd known as the illuminati degrees. You cant be a 33rd degree unless you're considered royalty (by bloodline).

An analogy could be made with MPs, whereby only a few MPs ever go to Bilderberg meetings. And Bilderberg meetings are only low level meetings in the greater scheme of things. High level Freemasons may go to low these type of low level meetings.

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I think freemasonry is only bad at the very top, as with most similar organisations, it seems as though for people at the bottom, the Freemasons do a lot of good, but when you get nearer the top, the bad side starts to come out.

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I agree with lp only at the very top, my mother in laws feller is a freemason and he is pretty high up regionally he is a decent feller and at grass roots levels they do a lot of good, we have chatted about my beliefs not in labeling everyone freemason corrupt but like lp mentioned the top, obviously he want mention what they do, he calls it business behind closed doors which I believe is harmless.

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There is 360 degree's, only EVER a few get there, hence the word the full circle, at the 3rd degree you're a grand master, my grandfather was a grandmaster which is just about networking and supporting each others businesses, remember the last matrix movie, the doors and floors when neo (One) went to find the Architect well this is about the structure of free masons.
Murp.

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Now look at the word freemasons? what does it mean? look at it! masons build things, remember the bilderberg group? These are builders of society.
Bob the builder, lol
obama's "yes you can"

bilderberg was never named after a hotel, they owned the hotel and changed the name before they let us know about the so called secret meetings there, do you see how it works, they let us find it out by design.

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Now a good book to check is albert pike's "morals and dogma" he was a top boy in the freemasons and it's all there, some is coded like our language is but a good read.
remember builders of the rock, the rockefellers (fellow rock builders).
Berg (ice berg, ice rock)
Take care.

Murp.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly on August 15, 1871, Albert Pike sent a letter to Giusseppe Mazzini talking about 3 world wars that were going to take place.

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Are you sure about the 33rd degree Mason only being of royalty bloodline ed.

I am aware that being a 33rd degree Mason isn't always royalty but if you have done something exceptional in freemasonry for example been a master of a lodge, the royal arch the Templars the eastern star the preceptory and all provincial and grand lodge equivalents?

{Ed033's Note - I hope I'm not on trial here but I'm pretty convinced but who's ever going to confirm it. When I say royalty, I mean being within 1% of the alleged "special" bloodline.

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Yes indeed, and we are in the 3rd world war already (currency war), these things don't start over night, they build up, let's hope it does not end in a thermonuclear war like it did in our past cause that means another reset of man.
and please I'm not trying to fear anyone but you all know something is wrong otherwise you would not be here.

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Thanks for the replies ed your right no one will ever confirm it.

It Is just something that has intrigued me for years.

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33rd degree's are people whom are used for a purpose.

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I only ment to post a few things tonite but check out the film 2001 space odyssey by arthur c clarke / Stanley Kubrick, the whole plan is in the film, from primitive beast to god.

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Once you get to the 32 level you are invited in to the high sect, you are veted to see if your of the stock!
the shepherd looks after the stock (the Stock market), pmsl man I got to laugh cause the more I learn the less I know.
the shepherd every once in a while fleases the stock (being fleased).
The people of Cyprus right now are being fleased by the not so good shepherd and we will be next, how long before who knows.
Murp.

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I'll ask a question before I go and I will answer it also, and make you all think and look more ok, What is ABC?

Murp.

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20 Mar 2013 23:22:02
I kid you not, I've known someone from another country of reformed character who I still keep in touch with now and again. His father was part of the Freemasons in Scandinavia but I don't know at what level but it must have been significant. The chap I know (although I haven't spoken to him for a while) was a contract erm person on behalf of the Freemasons (retired allegedly), who would carry out orders. His job at the time would roughly be seeking out the person which could be anywhere in Europe, finding the family/person and acting on orders. It does go on and I'm not going to elaborate on it. I'm not connected as far as I know to freemasonry although I understand my father was once involved at very low level due to lending each other money between local businessmen, but I do believe an trust this person in pretty much everything I've had chats with him about.

Supasub

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When we where children we know more, it's in our DNA (hence why the elite interbreed to keep something going), then we get sent to a rubbishty schools to unlearn and be indoctrinated into a system to be dumb and live in poverty or even middle class.
They lied to us, we think we are now an advanced culture, NO! (remember NEO being told there has been many neo's and they all fail).
ABC comes from 60,000 BC abyssinia (Ethiopia), Now listen ABC means A-Atomical, B-Biolological, C-Chemical. do you really think we are advanced?
if anyone wants to contact me Ed has my email, you can pass it on, we are at a very crucial time in our world and history. take care and look after the people around you as they will be counting on you.
Murp.

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Last post research the UN doc agenda 21.

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AH I can't help myself, every level is only a lodge, JAYZ is blue Lodge (4th), hence his kid being called blue ivy, album called blueprint, another useful person.

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Murp some deep stuff you know.

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Thanks Ed, take care friend.

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Industry
Unos
Dos
Tres

STaNDaRD
1ST
2ND
3RD

Abyss in ya A-B-C easy as 1-2-3

Tawn Allah (the little rock that sparkles) pea

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Interesting discussion and food for thought.

Me and Ed1 have had a few chats on the other ages of man before.

So reset buttons not far from being pushed again.

Mort

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Reset button pushed by "The Constant Gardner". pea

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Nothing is ever really certain, and the posts I put up are only what I have learned and I might be wrong, I don't feel down about our situation because I really believe the truth sets you free.

Murp

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Another book the check, or even watch his old youtube talks (he only did a few) is professor Carrol Quigley (Bill Clintons mentor, Bill talks about Carrol in his Acceptance speech) "Tragedy and hope" He was an insider whom agreed with the agenda, his only beef was the people should be told.

Murp

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Another point, what is hollywood all about? Holly WOOD is a wand to create a spell (magic), proPAGANda, PR are the first two letters there.

Murp.

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Even if this site is only for counterintellgece I don't mind, I'm only saying what was put out there.

Murp = My understanding reality project, I like to learn.

Take care.

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Thought I'd go back and watch pink floyd's the wall film, what a film, never got it year's ago but now.

So in Cyprus now they are going to just take your money, pmsl
the writing is on the wall.

If I didn't laugh I'd really cry but 2+2 = 4.

Murp

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20 Mar 2013 14:25:21
I was wondering if ed033 or anyone else here could explain something for me. Watched slavery by consent last night, looks like ye have me hooked guys. The part where the woman Irene refuses to allow herself be 'judged'. I'm fine with that as i've seen others comment on strawman, etc. The part i'm hoping someone can help with is what was shown next. A guy signs a contract to accept her 3 billion dollar debt. What was going on here as I couldn't figure it out. Thanks in advance.

Captain Needa

{Ed033's Note - It looks to me that a police officer asks her to sign a piece of paper and she is saying that it will cost him 3 billion for her to sign it, to which he agrees. Possibly in her mind, if he is not after her for committing a natural law crime, then he must be attempting to contract with her, not as a limited liability police officer but as an unlimited commercial liability man. She makes the offer of 3 billion and he accepts it.

Slavery by consent

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Yeh I go along with that, another thing the more I see of Stephen fry as we talked about before v for vendetta movie the more I think he is like the character of the movie Gordon Deitrich a upper class actor who has a social conscious, as for the land of the free (usa) I would put plenty of money in a bet that fox news never admit to the public that they have more slaves sorry prisoners than those mad dictators from china to iran, like I have always said the western alliance has the best propaganda machine in the world.

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I was familiar with many areas this film covers, probably as many people are (or at least many people who think freely and visit sites such as this). However, even with this knowledge, I continue to pay taxes, speeding fines etc. To be completely and ashamedly honest, I do this because my standard of living (generally speaking) is good. The world is growing ever darker, and it's clear that this will continue. Maybe it HAS to, as it's only when the masses feel that they cannot go on or even survive that they will say "Enough of this" en masse.
Now that's a tragic prediction, but probably a real one
Geestar71

{Ed033's Note - The parasite that has attached itself to us all won't stop and will keep making up new ways to extract money from us. Next it's placing Smart Meters on all buildings and charge for when electricity / gas / water is used so that between 9am and 5pm you are charged 4 x the rate than between 1am and 9am for example. This is already happening

Then after they've finished brainwashing people that we're running out of energy, Energy Inspectors will visit all residents and force you to upgrade your house and appliances to being energy efficient and if you don't upgrade, your house will be condemned and you will be thrown out of it.

Then they'll come back and force you to install solar power or have your house condemned and you will be thrown out of it for not being energy efficient.

Apparently forcing people to raise their houses a few inches for no reason has recently happened next to Bohemian Grove in San Francisco, America. And those that couldn't afford it or refused were thrown out of their houses because the houses were condemned.

Then they'll try again with a global tax like the carbon tax. So it doesn't matter how well off people are now, they won't be later on.

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20 Mar 2013 15:11:51
Was wondering what people's feeling towards Area 51 are and what there actually is inside and around, watched a few program's which have got me thinking about it

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Area 51 was the first thing I was really in to in the 1980s read a lot about it subscribed to a sci fi publication every month, right my take on area 51, I do think there was a craft in new mexico in the 40s and was probably took to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, then when they acquired area 51 in the 50s they took the disc and successfully done reverse engineering . I am open minded about bob lazar and john lear claims in other words I believe in some of the stuff they are saying but not all, I do not think anything suspicious is going on there now because it is to public, to be honest I find dulce more interesting than area 51.

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I definitely would like to think that there was things in the past there, because frankly if we were the only life excluding animals etc it would be extremely boring

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If you do have an interest in area 51 you should also delve into the stories of Dulce Air Force Base. As Franky mentions it can be a lot more interesting. I also accept Area 51 was where testing and back engineering of peculiar craft has taken place. Being part of the large Nevada Test Site, Area 51 was always going to be cloaked in some form secrecy from its inception. While this may have had nothing to do with aliens at first it certainly was because of the people working there. It's possible many of the Germans (not all were Nazis) brought over via project paper clip were eventually put to work in places like Area 51. Their area of expertise after all was mainly in the advancements they made in aerial flight and weaponry. Wernher Von Braun wasn't the only German whose ideas were coveted by the victors. As great as NASA thought hey were with him the methods employed by Korolev for the USSR brought better results. As a believer in other advanced lifeforms I see some truth in the claims made by the likes of Lazar and Lear. However, I also accept hey could also be fed outlandish falsities to make everything seem ridiculous. When you consider some of the ways Governments do business with each other in documents on Wikileaks it isn't beyond belief that agreements have been made with entities who are more advanced than us.

Captain Needa

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I've always thought Area 51 was for developing black technology, which is why some people think it could be linked to UFO's

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20 Mar 2013 23:12:02
I agree, anything going on now in Area 51 will be us black technology although I do think something has gone on there decades ago. Dulce air base intrigues me, I'm sure there are ex-employee accounts of ET's working together with humans in the apparent underground airbase. Denver airport worry's me, apparently massive underground space all completed by seperate contractors so no one knew the full plans, symbolism everywhere to prophecy, freemasonry, slavery, tptb, death, mind control and disease to name just a few.
Which is the air base in America which has strange and unusual paintings/ carvings of strange creatures and so forth on rocks nearby? Also there is a massive restricted airspace/air base in Australia use by the US but I forget the name of it, certainly seems like some strange stuff going on there.

Supasub

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Pine gap mate.

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20 Mar 2013 13:24:12
Does anyone know what"crisis actors" are?, I heard that they are people hired by the CIA to act as victims in staged"tragedies"such as Sandy Hook, sorry if this a stupid question, my 1st time posting. RooiKop

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Yes I've heard of this before, i'm sure I seen a video about a woman that was one of the sandy hook victims mother that done an interview, that same woman was also seen in a nat geo documentary I believe acting as someone who was getting interviewed. Not 100% but its something along those lines.

MM

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Some of the sandy hook interviews looked strange I am not saying they are acting but very weird but I do know that during the gulf war a twelve year old girl from Kuwait done a interview to the media claiming Iraqi soldiers stormed in to a hospital and killed babies and children she was crying her eyes out, later on a researcher traced that the girls farther had connections to the CIA and the girl had been receiving acting lessons from the age of four, so no doubt it does happen.

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Yes I read about the one in Kuwait, some of the Sandy Hook interviews look very suspicious, but what I don't understand is what would be the point in using actors?

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Lp using actors is to play on our emotions as simple as that.

{Ed033's Note - You can get actors to say exactly what you want and they can cry / emote on demand.

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