Conspiracy Talk Archive October 20 2011

 

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20 Oct 2011 21:11:21
Hope you like the quotes. This is all I'm reading about now, as it is quite clearly the only conspiracy which affects us daily and is therefore of the greatest importance. I previously urged you to read a book by Veronica Chapman called freedom: not just a 7 letter word. I still urge you to do this, and would love to hear your thought and comments on the subject.

JQuan {Ed001's Note - these quotes fascinate me, I have always wondered if the Templars were destroyed due to their control over banking systems around Europe. They were owed huge sums of money by European governments and the Papacy, it was a very easy way to remove both the debts and take over the world's economies.}

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That's very interesting. I've never really thought about the template having that much control due to control of capital, but it does make perfect sense. And offers us hope that their modern day equivalent can be overthrown also.

JQuan {Ed001's Note - that is a good point too, but they were overthrown by the power of governments, the modern day equivalent control the governments. The hope we do have is that they no longer have control of information, so long as the internet can be kept in the hands of all of us, we have a chance.}

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Yes, it we, the people, who will overthrow the powers that enslave us and convince us we are free. First step is knowledge of the system which entraps us, and I couldn't agree more that the internet will aid us in this goal.

JQuan {Ed001's Note - it is the strongest weapon we possess, knowledge is truly power.}

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Revolution through peaceful rebellion! Viva the human spirit!

(Getting a bit carried away now I know, but it is so great a subject I can't help myself!) {Ed001's Note - great changes can be made by peaceful means, changes that last and cause less rancour for following generations to cope with.}

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I have had a quick look over this book you are talking about and it has certainly opened my eyes a bit. Interesting what we take for granted and face value is not always the correct thing to do. I am reading more on this and have found a few websites that explain things further ........thanks JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 21:05:30
When the people fear the government, there is Tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is Liberty. Thomas Jefferson

JQuan

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Love you quotes as always JQuan.
Raz

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Cheers Raz.

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 21:04:36
From the days of Wieshaupt, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing . . . . It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19 th Century . . . Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of England--the London Press, 1922.

JQuan

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Illustrated Sunday Herald,
February 1920

Speaking of the Communist revolution, Churchill said:

From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt (Illuminati) to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

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Cheers for the full quote. Even more interesting to see the context.

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 21:00:58
I have unwittingly ruined my country. President Wilson, upon passage of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 21:00:23
The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board administers a finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. That system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. This (Federal Reserve) Act establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the president signs this bill, the invisible governments by the monetary power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed, the worst legislatives crime of the ages perpetrated by this banking bill. Charles A. Lindbergh, Representative, MN

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 20:58:06
The US will bring in the New World Order and its seat will be England. Governor Cornwallis (200 years ago)

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 20:57:17
In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold . .. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. Alan Greenspan, Gold and Economic Freedom

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 20:55:13
This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished. Sir Denison Miller

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 20:47:58
Very soon every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency.

Every American will be forced to register or suffer being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges.

They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.

This will inevitably reap us huge profit beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call 'Social Insurance'. Without realising it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation (USA) to foment this plot against America. Colonel Edward Mandel House

The great mass of people . . . will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one. What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler

JQuan

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20 Oct 2011 18:29:38
What is there after death? There must be SOMETHING, there is no such thing as nothing, and are we still conscious beings after death?

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20 Oct 2011 16:48:52
I may aswell start it off. Colonel Gaddafi's death is a conspiracy. He is an alien from outer space, who has replaced himself with a dummy. He is living safely on Jupiter.

G.A.G.U.S

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Just a quick one G.A.G.U.S are you on crack??

MJ

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I would like to say we are all just character's in G.A.G.U.S.'s dream. He has dreamt us and the world we all know , when he awakes we will all be just a hazy fading memory is G.A.G.U.S.'s mind. In fact he is Krishna!
( he is not Krishna ! he's a very naughty boy a voice is now telling me)
Its a mind manipulating thing then, I guess? who knows ?
Who is the puppet master to our puppets?
My head hurts, what should we have for tea Martha?

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Yes its partly a conspiracy. There are parallels with Iraq, mad dictator runs middle eastern country with oil deposits. But can you really begrudge the poor sods celebrating their moment of freedom? Soon the oil monoliths will be in their sucking the place dry.

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Still early doors but a good conspiracy might yet be had, however i'm already leaning towards it is what it is.

Theres a good recentish photo of Gaddafi alive and well on the BBC news site and a photo from today on Al Jazeera apparently showing Gaddafi deceased.

Two very prominent features of his face; his nose; in particular the nostril shape and size and the well defined dip in the upper lip are present in both photos.

Whilst the slim possibility of a double exists, one of the Eds mentioned very recently that Al Jazeera was US controlled...so all to play for on the conspiracy front!

Probably whilst typing this its been confirmed beyond reasonable doubt it is in fact him, hope theres more mileage it though.

Paragon

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Here's to Martha!

G.A.G.U.S

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Given that Gadaffi wanted oil to be traded in gold rather than dollars I wonder what will happen to gold prices now that he is dead?

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20 Oct 2011 03:07:26
the occupy wall street crowd will easily be duped into following a decietful leader. Their outrage at the banking system is just but their cutting Obama and his big government agenda way too much slack. In theory they have more in common with Ron Paul but have been brainwashed by the leftist elite into believing theyre on the same side. Regulations and big government will never work and until that is realized by this group they will never succeed.
Also they must take power back from the trust funders that seem to be the mouth piece for the movement and aschew help from people like Al sharpton and Kanye West to be taken serious. I respect what these people are trying to do but until they make these changes they wont be backed by americas majority

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Sounds to me like you are someone that has been brainwashed into believeing that deregulation is the only way! Regulation holds people accountable, means you can force people to be honest (not that companies ever are).

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The person to blame for the financial mess, lies at the feet of Woodrow Wilson, he handed over power of the U.S. currency to the Rothschilds, Morgans & Rockerfellers, he later recanted this as to be the worst decision ever made & foretold of what was to come.

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The bildeberger ultimately financed our fed anyway so the power and coeercions always been in the hands of the cfr

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Regulation holds people acountable? Huh, I guess youre logic the is that we the masses are merely meak sheep unable to care for ourselves without our good shepard big government looking out for us. For regulation to ever be successful you must ask youre self who is regulating. Power breeds corruption regulators are no different

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Deregulation leads to....

A two, three, four, tier medical system, where freedom of choice is replaced by ability to pay.

An almost monopolistic press where one or two companies control 99% of the media.

Accidents on the railways, as saftey takes a back seat to profit.

High energy bills as the alledged competition does not create more choice just more fixing of prices.

Try reading about the problems deregulation causes rather than believeing the people who want deregulation in order to further their goals/finances.

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Youure points on deregulations failures are valid but incomplete let me counter
a) Medically regulations lead to sub-par care because patients are lumped into categories rather than specialized cases
B) Mainstream media already operates like you suggested- in a free society it is ultimately up to the individual to seek out the truth through other avenues
c) as far as railway accidents that is concievable except that the responsibility to pay for these accidents will fall soley on the company forcing them to be safety concious if only for fiscal reasons
D) Lastly youre argument on energy is my main reseon for deregulation. With out govt sanctions the public will be allowed to seek power from the lowest bidder rather than be forced to buy from regional companies which is causing monoplies because there is no free market. I do however enjoy the back and forth on this issue that is the only way problems will ever be solve thanks for being a concerned citizen

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