Conspiracy Talk Archive September 21 2011

 

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21 Sep 2011 23:28:35
Chris In Tamworth. I come on here to mostly read about what others talk about and read the links that people and the Eds put up. I'm here because I'm interested in this stuff and the posters and Eds seem to know a lot more about it than I do. A lot of what is said I don't agree with or 'believe' but everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you are so quick to debunk this stuff and shoot it down why are you even here? Just leave it for people who know and people who want to learn about it. You really seem like some little pathetic know it all who has decided that everything you say is fact and everyone else is wrong. Were you bullied at school for being different and now try to conform to the mainstream of thinking that will get you a level of acceptability with your peers that you craved so much in your adolescent years? You seem be so quick to dismiss other ideas while being so adamant that you know best with no evidence what so ever. You are wasting what I and many others think is a very enjoyable site. And you are a bit of a knob.

Padawan

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Padawan!

Fair play to you mate, you're spot on. Couldn't have worded that better myself.
The site explains at the top not to take anything to seriously.
No one here is trying to make people believe anything, just stating our theories to see what other like minded people think!
Each to their own I say, attacking people for their beliefs is just wrong!
Grow up Chris wee man!

Peace

Jay

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21 Sep 2011 22:59:21
Chris Tamworth

Also mate, you still haven't answered any of my questions, so I'll number them for you!

1. What is YOUR belief of human origins?
2. How could the Sumerians know of all the planets, including Nibiru, thousands of years before WE discovered Pluto?
3. Why does EVERY religion have parts of the Sumerian tablets in them?
4. What conspiracies are you into? As I'm assuming you must think that something you've been told isn't right. Otherwise, why would you be here?

Peace

Jay

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1) Little thing called evolution
2) I have no idea and neither do you and yet you choose to take the aliens option as explanation
3) Again I'm not really sure without doing some research but weren't the sumerians one of, if not, the first civilisations? That being the case would it not make sense that they may have influenced what came after?
4) I happen to think there are very serious conspiracies going on between governments and major corporations all over the world that are damaging all of us. Unfortunately this site seems to have forgotten about these minor irritations and instead wants to focus on complete bloody fruitcake talk about gods and bloody aliens.
Here's a question for you if aliens have been/ are visiting us why can't they just be open about it and say hello? Why so coy? It's the one simple and obvious question that the "believers" can never answer. There's a reason for that!

Chris in Tamworth

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Jay I don't know why but I feel compelled to answer your questions too haha.

1) I believe in the theory of evolution, however I find the concept of something creating everything that led to this planet being able to evolve very interesting. I find the concept of us being such a minute part of a grander scheme very exciting. I also find it really interesting that there is a theory that one main aim of the Illuminati was to make society believe there is not a God, and that the Theory of Evolution was their biggest weapon in this aim. What marvellous theory! True? Who knows!

2) I don't know, but unlike someone from a crap town, I think this is one of the most exciting things to investigate. Chances are they just figured some stuff out like we did but in terms of their star alignment with buildings etc there is clearly a lot of mystery there and it is really interesting to read.
3) That is a good question - and that bloke from that crap town gave a pretty good reason. I don't find it hard to say that because I'm not a dick.
4) I am interested in loads of conspiracies. What I am also interested in is that while there are endless posts and responses regarding the Illuminati, staged UFO landings, potential 'weaponisation' of the moon, motives for 'terrorist' attacks, Diana's death, and general chat to do with conspiring governments etc etc, that bloke from that crap town is NOWHERE to be seen. Then, when the chat deviates to things such as how we got here, ETs and alien technology, which that bloke from that town may not have realised yet actually has a lot to do with Governments after all, that bloke whose name we all know who is in or from that crap town is suddenly all over everybody like a rash and issuing forth pure sanctimony such as 'this site seems to have forgotten about these minor irritations and instead wants to focus on complete bloody fruitcake'. Very interesting. My dad had selective hearing but selective reading... this is new to me.

Raz, certainly not from or in Tamworth.

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21 Sep 2011 22:35:31
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

JQuan

Ps sorry to bombard you with quotes again! If no ones interested, tell me to stop! {Ed033's Note - How about posting something from yourself.}

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Personally I find quotes much more insightful, and believe them to be a much greater source for info than mere opinion. don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that opinion doesn't matter, it does. Everyone is entitled to the own opinion. However, it is based on their own perception. Why not put out a quote and allow people to make up their own minds. {Ed001's Note - what he meant was to post your insight into the quote, rather than just the quote. The quotes are interesting, but so is learning what someone else gets from them.}

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In fairness to JQuan, I like reading his quotes as long as they tie in with themes on here. I think it was JQuan who was putting up quotes the other day of things like Kennedy's speech that got him shot, that sort of thing, and as long as it is topical I like it. I think by using the quote he/she is telling us his/her own way what stance they have don't you think. That is how academics do it.... they never say 'I think', they just collate things that peers have said that have been academically acknowledged and forward them, and the reader then divulges what the person thinks.

Jquan I guess others think it would be nice to hear your own opinion but don't stop the quotes!

Raz

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Cheers Raz. I appreciate your comments! Will try and keep all quotes topical in future!

JQuan

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21 Sep 2011 22:26:49
To the guy who is talking about goings on at area 51, dreamland, groom lake or whatever you want to call it. The alot of talk of wats happend there. A guy called bob lazar has a few vids on u-tube. He's an ex worker there and has alot to say. Thers loads of bases just like this one wich makes me think it's a big smoke screan for the real stories that go in places like dulce in Mexico or death valley in India. This place is weird. Also there are underground bases in Britain such as breccon or Salisbury plain. Area 51 gets people thinking but at the same time stops them thinking of other places. The goverment are not soft. What do the eds think and do you know of any bases like this.

Kee {Ed033's Note - I posted earlier about Pine Gap Australia.}

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21 Sep 2011 22:26:34
"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people that cannot see further than their eyes, believe"

- Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman)

JQuan

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Who would believe an illuminati member no matter how cute his words?

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21 Sep 2011 22:16:59
Why is there no God?

Can any of the non belivers please explain?

Now before you answer please understand that god and religion are very different. Religion is like nylon man made and most anything man makes he contaminates for one reason or another

The native american indians have no religion along the lines many people from western europe understand yet they are one of the most spiritual races on earth and have a connection to god and the universe. The god of the american indian may not have a familar name however is it any different a god. If I live in England my name is John, If I live in germany I might be called Johann, in denmark I might be called Jan, etc. Whats in a name?

I am a simple person, is it possible to have a simple answer that makes sense?

There is no god is not a answer merely a statement that is not explained!

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Thjere is no God because Chris has not been introduced to him end of story!

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Z.Sitchin states that the Annunaki believe that they were created by a God.

Len

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21 Sep 2011 19:11:30
Sorry about all the posts guys, but just seen someone mention the reptile thing with the illuminati.
I don't believe this, and hope no one thinks that as I mentioned the Illuminati believe the Anunnaki that the Anunnaki are reptiles.
The Anunnaki are not reptiles or whatever some like to call them. The Anunnaki are just like us (maybe a bit different) as we are made in their image. As some believe!

Peace

Jay

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Thanks for the clarification mate, it was getting a bit confusing. Although some do say reptiles.

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I don't know where people are getting the reptile thing from, it certainly has nothing to do with the Anunnaki anyway!

Glad I cleared that up, Its annoying when people take a perfectly plausible theory, then add on to it to satisfy their own theory. It's kinda like disinfo, and discredits the original theory.

So in a nutshell THE ANUNNAKI ARE NOT REPTILES.

Peace

Jay

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I thought the anunnaki were a group of gods? In the same way that the Greek gods were immortal deities. In other words imaginary beings that simple people believed in because they didn't know any better.

Chris in Tamworth

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Or more to the point maybe ancient scholars created the concepts of super beinsg they called gods to communicate quite technical stuff to people that didn't have the understanding. kind of like biblical parables etc

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Chris

Yes they were Gods, well believed to be by the Sumerians, who were an extremely advanced civilisation.
To say simple minded is a bit harsh. Put it this way mate, how would you have described people coming from the sky with technology that you had no understanding of? Because they must have witnessed these things, as how do you describe something that you've never seen before? You can't, so something in their story is true!
Thing is, places that they spoke about are still in existence today. Eeden for example. The tomb of Inanna/Ishtar.
These people were also almost mass producing texts with clay scrolls. So for you to say simple minded, is very small minded my friend.
The tower of babel is of Anunnaki origin, as is the story of the flood, which was hijacked by the Christian bible.
You see mate, for you to give a FAIR argument, do some research, and I'll be more than happy to debate on this subject with you.

Ps. That doesn't mean watch a few vids on YouTube to make up your mind, as there's a lot of disinfo out there for both sides of the argument.

Peace

Jay

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Jay the story of the flood exists in many cultures not just middle eastern. It also i believe crops up in many native american tribal legends. {Ed001's Note - I expect that is because it is almost certainly true, all the archaeological evidence points to it really having happened.}

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Yes 001, it occurs in too many legends too spread around to be anything other than true.

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You're right Chris, it does. But the Sumerians were the 1st ( defo one of the 1st ) to speak of it. Also the story of the arc is in the clay tablets, only with different names as it's clear, the story of Noah was stolen from ancient Sumeria.

Like I said before, in order for you to put a valid point across, actually look into the Sumerians, their knowledge of the stars, their civilisations and their gods, the Anunnaki.

Don't be frightened simply because you don't understand, or that it makes what you believe, not seem so real.

Peace

Jay

Ps. I get the feeling that you like to shut all over peoples theory's and prob get a little kick from doing so. As I believe this to be true, tell me what YOU BELIEVE Chris? Where do you believe our human origins to come from. And you still haven't explained how the Sumerians knew of all the planets, thousands of years before we discovered Pluto. So I'd like you to explain how they knew this, as you seem to have the answer to everything! {Ed001's Note - what was the name of that tribe in Africa who were discovered in the Victorian era and had knowledge of astronomy that surpassed the level of the time despite being a very primitive tribe? Was it Dogon? Only they claimed it was given to them in the past and they just passed the info down through the generations.}

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Ed

Yeah heard this too, sure I seen it on ancient aliens.
No one can say for sure how they knew, but they did. I find things like that fascinating. Thanks for reminding me of that, I'll be looking that up!

Peace

Jay {Ed001's Note - it is little things like that which make me think the Mayan belief in the Ages of Man might make sense. In that humanity reached advanced levels in the past before destroying itself and reverting to stone age level technology. That would explain the numerous stone age finds of skeletons with evidence of surviving complicated surgical procedures. I am sure there are numerous other theories that could fit as well, but that is the one I think makes the most sense based on my own reading.}

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Hi Jay i posted the flood stories from various cultures. I'm not Chris from Tamworth although i know Tamworth very well. To be fair they have an apocalypse every Saturday at 3 am......

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From an above post

I thought the anunnaki were a group
of gods? In the same way that the Greek gods were immortal deities. In other words imaginary beings that simple people believed in because they didn't know any better.

Chris in Tamworth

IF these simple people who believe in a god as so stupid (or don't know any better when obviously they should?) why does it trouble you so much?

Why do you feel compelled to be so offensive?

Just asking?

The hidden hand

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Jay you know your stuff no doubt and I am not trying to pretend I know more than you but the simple fact is that everything in which you believe is mere speculation and a one sided version of historical events. It is just as likely, in fact much more likely (although you'll never admit it)
that aliens have never visited our planet. Anybody can make a group of facts or statistics look like whatever they want if the look hard enough, ley lines are a perfect example as is the Torah code. My argument is that when there is a lack of real evidence for something and a lot of evidence against something it is time to take a pragmatic approach and just use some common sense. Something that, despite all the obvious intelligence on this site, is sadly lacking.
As for your "don't be frightened because you don't understand" remark I think you are the one that is frightened. Frightened that there is no great mystery, no alien power, no divine intervention, maybe you're frightened to accept that maybe, just maybe this is all there is. Personally I think you are too "simple minded" to realise this.

Chris in Tamworth

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Ed

Yeah, I totally feel that may just be the case, that the ancients weren't as primitive as we are told.
Have you seen the Cargo Cult? Amazing stuff!

To the other Tamworth guy, who has an apocalypse every Saturday at 3am?
I'm sure it wasn't the Sumerians, they were too bright. Or maybe what you're sayin is true, but was mistranslated, like I said, the Sumerians were very bright and came from the cradle of culture and civilisation!'

Peace

Jay

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You are all too "simple minded" to realize this?

What a sweeping statment?

I think the poster of the first line above protests too much in the opposite direction of a God and has some serious pent up issues?

I wish the poster gods grace I hope all these issues about god are resolved, I hope god decends upon this poster to heal the devisions within

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Well Chris, that's quite a post, can't help but feel a little bewildered by it.

In fact, I DO believe there's every chance that we haven't been visited, like you said, there seems to be a lack of evidence to support that theory.
For you to say I'm scared though, that we could be all there is, couldn't be further from the truth. You see my friend, WE CAN'T BE ALL THERE IS! there MUST be someone/thing out there. When you look at it this way, we are here, so we are the best evidence of intelligent life! The vastness of the universe is unknown, it's too huge for it not to support life elsewhere. We are only in one galaxy, there are billions of galaxy's out there, so life must exist out there buddy!

Also, I'm not simple minded mate, dont get me wrong, im not trying to say I'm very intelligent either, but I can hold my own in any company! and I'm pretty sure if you'd seen all my posts, you'd realise that.
Thing is, I'm not as rash or offensive as you, in fact, I feel for you as I do for every other human being on the planet. And those feelings are positive and love my friend. You see, I'm the type that couldn't give a flying f*** what others think of me, my theory's of my look on life.
I see us as a species of beauty and mystery, and cherish my time here on earth with all my brothers and sisters. Because wether you like it or not, we are all the same, regardless of our different beliefs.
I like that you speak your mind, it shows character, even though we'll never agree on anything probably. It doesn't bother me. You won't find any harsh words from me brother!

Peace

Jay

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You need to read a little more carefully I actually said " you are too simple minded" not "you are ALL too simple minded" I was only talking to one person. Not that the facts will bother you, you've already been brainwashed to believe a bloody fairy story so I think I will apply the "simple minded" statement to you as well.

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - you do realise that most fairy stories were based on true stories don't you Chris? Or are you too simple minded to grasp that? I really fail to understand why you even visit this site, if you don't like footie you wouldn't go on a footie site. So why waste my time with your petty little childish digs at people with a different belief from yourself? You offer absolutely nothing of value with your nasty little comments, so please stop or I will have to ban you from here.}

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True ed!

Nothing but sh** from this guy! No theories, just attacks on others!

Peace

Jay

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I did read your words but decided to twist them a little to push your buttons and got the reply as expected

I am just a simple person but a smart and educated one who believes in God

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Chris who has probably never left Tamworth.

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Thats not quite right. They claimed to be gods. That doesnt make it true. IF they existed, they were an advanced technological race who refused to share knowledge with us until EA or EN.KI rebelled in order to provide us with BASIC information and preserve the species he had helped create.

Len

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21 Sep 2011 19:03:41
Hi everyone!
The Norway vortex, what you guys think??
We were told it was a rocket, but when you see the pics/videos, you'll see it's defo not a rocket!
What bothers me though is that it looks TOO PERFECT. which suggests to me it's either

1. PROJECT BLUE BEAM or
2. a very real vortex

I think it could be any of the 2, but it still hasn't been fully explained to Anyones satisfaction,certainly not mine anyway.

Anyway guys, check it for yourself and let me know what you think

Peace

Jay

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Jay I am going to check this out.
Raz

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I mentioned project bluebeam a week or so ago and no one seemed interested. have a carefull read about it, very odd.......there is something happening......IT COULD BE A HOLOGRAM....??

matty b

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21 Sep 2011 18:51:51
what do you all think about Planet X (a.k.a. Nibiru) or is all on the net a load of sh#t

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Youtube.com/watch?v=2rrelv96nCQ&feature=related

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To me, Nibiru is very real, but yeah, the web is full of disinfo about it. So I can understand why people think it doesn't exist.
If anyone wants proper stuff to research on Nibiru, then I'd suggest checking out zecharia sitchin, he translated the Sumerian clay tablets which speak of Nibiru and the Anunnaki!
What's worth noting (you'll see this on YouTube) is that the Sumerians knew of all the planets in our solar system, as well as Nibiru. The strange thing about this, is that we didn't discover Pluto till the 1900's. So how did the Sumerians know of all planets, including Nibiru way back anywhere between 5000 to 7000 years ago?
Where they told about the planets? Did they have an advanced technology lost in time?
It's Anyones guess, but it's fascinating!

Peace

Jay

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Youtube.com/watch?v=Sq_QWWZaynw&feature=related

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21 Sep 2011 18:47:59
can anyone tell me the differences between Conspiracy and theory's (e.g string theory) cos some of them theory's are more crazier then 911 Conspiracy maybe the difference is ones about space life and the other is about Governance, Dictators, or the ruling class the people that what ta keep the masses down

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Originally the word theory as it is used in English is a technical term from Ancient Greek philosophy. It is derived from theoria, θεωρία, meaning "a looking at, viewing, beholding", and refers to contemplation or speculation, as opposed to action. Theory is especially often contrasted to "practice" (from Greek praxis, πρᾶξις) an Aristotelian concept which is used in a broad way to refer to any activity done for the sake of action, in contrast with theory, which does not need an aim which is an action. By extension of the philosophical meaning, "theoria" is also a word still used in theological contexts.

A classical example of the distinction between theoretical and practical uses the discipline of medicine: Medical theory and theorizing involves trying to understand the causes and nature of health and sickness, while the practical side of medicine is trying to make people healthy. These two things are related but can be independent, because it is possible to research health and sickness without curing specific patients, and it is possible to cure a patient without knowing how the cure worked.

In modern contexts, while theories in the arts and philosophy may address ideas and empirical phenomena which are not easily measurable, in modern science the term "theory", or "scientific theory" is generally understood to refer to a proposed explanation of empirical phenomena, made in a way consistent with scientific method. Such theories are preferably described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand, verify, and challenge (or "falsify") it. In this modern scientific context the distinction between theory and practice corresponds roughly to the distinction between theoretical science and technology or applied science. A common distinction sometimes made in science is between theories and hypotheses, with the former being considered as satisfactorily tested or proven and the latter used to denote conjectures or proposed descriptions or models which have not yet been tested or proven to the same standard.



A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly, the idea that important political, social or economic events are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

The term "conspiracy theory" is used to indicate a narrative genre that includes a broad selection of (not necessarily related) arguments for the existence of grand conspiracies. The term is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at "stealing" power, money, or freedom, from "the people". Conspiracy theories are based on the notion that complex plots are put into motion by powerful hidden forces. Less illustrious uses refer to folklore and urban legend and a variety of explanatory narratives which are constructed with methodological flaws or biases. Originally it was a neutral term but during the political upheaval of the 1960s it acquired its current derogatory sense, In the pejorative sense the term is used to automatically dismiss claims that are deemed ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish or irrational. A proven conspiracy theory, such as the notion that Nixon and his aide were behind the Watergate break in and coverup, is usually referred to as something else, such a investigative journalism, or historical analysis. Conspiracy theories rely on the notion that the truth of historical events cannot be found in official records, but only by seeking out what is deliberately hidden.

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21 Sep 2011 18:37:23
I wonder what technology (possibly ET technology) could cause thousands of people to see the sun spin around in the sky several times, which is known as "The Miracle of the Sun" in Fatima, Portugal on October 13, 1917 where the 3rd secret of Fatima was allegedly given to some children? And what the purpose of such a demonstration was?

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I had that experience once after a christening and a few too many jourums down the pub!

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21 Sep 2011 17:49:46
Hi everyone, have to post this on here as I'm sure some of you will want to watch!

Tomorrow night at 10pm on sky channel Showcase ( channel 201 ) THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY

covers a lot of 9/11, how it came about, who it looks like is behind it and other stuff you'd want to know!
Also explains about ancient relics, artifacts and tombs of Sumeria being destroyed by us troops, and the stealing of some artifacts as well!

A fantastic watch guys

Peace

Jay

Ps. RAZ, u better watch it! Lol

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Legend mate nice one Jay!
Raz

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21 Sep 2011 17:11:03
Just a small note to Chris in Tamworth just because you are a non believer in any of the posts that i comment on about mars does not mean its utter nonsense im not going to call you an idiot because your opinion is just that YOUR OPINION but in future keep yours to yourself i have been interested in mars and alien activity for 16 years also the paranormal and have witnessed things even you could not deny

MJ

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Nobodys opinion should be dismissed however some things are just plain stupid.

Not saying anything you believe in is stupid.

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Thank you for your honest opinion all i can say about the things i comment on are that there is more evidence to prove the things i say are of a high possibility than they are false...I just dont appreciate Chris stating that im talking utter rubbish when he's probably never even researched anything about what i say although i know he is a total non believer but im not going to slate him or anyone for that

MJ

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I see your point of view mate

but not everybody will believe in what you believe

Not everybody believes in what I believe and that's okay

Rather than getting into an argument which usually cannot be won as the other person digs in deeper the more the argument goes on to continue the argument is futile

You hare a couple of options

1. You can ignore what others say

2. you can engage with them in a non hostile way and see there point of view and them introduce them to your point of view

When you do this very often they ignore you

3. you can go all guns blazing into an argument

4. Maybe there are other options too

The more you become secure in your self the less the opinions of others matter, what matters is that which is important to you

I happen to agree with a lot of what you are saying, I too have seen strange things not aliens that cannot be explained and your opinion is just as valid as mine or Chris or anyone elses

It takes the bigger man to walk away from confrontation and sometimes its the best thing to do!

In General people may twist what you say or read what you have posted and take a different meaning because posts are short this is bound to happen on occasion

Sometimes you need to fight your corner but not everytime

If you think this is BS that's okay mate

The hidden hand

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The hidden hand, your ok in my book and what you say is 100% correct i salute you.

MJ

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End of the day lads there is far too much weird stuff that goes on that cannot be explained.

There is stuff i don't believe or am sceptical on, but then there is stuff i do believe. I just come on here to see what everyone else is saying and maybe learn a few things.

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That's a good position to learn from mate

Keep an open mind!

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21 Sep 2011 16:28:40
coincidence that operation iraqi liberation spells out oil? Coincidence or illuminati? The war against terror also spells out

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Hidden in plain sight m8.

Len

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21 Sep 2011 16:01:44
"Sir" Alex Ferguson - manager of the self proclaimed red DEVILS. He is so powerful that is one word will be believed my an army of millions of his followers worldwide. 

Knighted by the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY for his services to "football", when other equals in football management have come nowhere near getting this accolade. 

Is it just me or is there more to this guy than meets the eye?

Akram

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It's just you mate. Why should Sir Alex not have been knighted for services to football? As much as other managers and football people may also deserve to have been knighted it doesn't mean there is more to him than meets the eye.

Rjmanutd

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Lol could be mate, he is a man in the media. And very high up too. I the public eye. etc etc so why not?

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I'm fairly certain that Ole whisky nose got his knighthood for charity work in Scotland (but doesnt like to talk about it).

Len

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21 Sep 2011 14:03:50
Someone help me out here if you can, what is the deal with Area 51 - why so secretive. Was 9/11 planned and did man land on the moon??

Lew

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Aera 51 supposed alien landing (there are pcitures) and where american fighter planes were develop

The russians were the first country to put a man in space and the only country to go to the moon

The russians currently charge the americans 51M to go to the international space station.


9/11 inside job done under a false flag to erode the rights of the American people as the bogeyman had to be contained the American Government needed special powers to do this and these powers curtailed the liberties of the ordinary person in america

You should really get out more and stop playing computer games all this information is freely available on the web

Go to Google.com

And use the search facility

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What a judgemental reply!

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There are thouands of sites offering this information, why is asking someone to do a little searching judgemental?

Do you play computer Games?

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Not to crap on the so called judgemental guy but area 51 is an american base which apparently holds the roswell crashed spaceship and a few aliens also the secondary base called s4 is connected to the area 51 base which hold the dead aliens so its not really a landing/ crash site

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I've always been interested in Area 51, but like everyone else, have no clue what really happened at Roswell.
Did a UFO really crash land, it's a very strong possibilty as the goings on were very strange, such as the military changing their story's.
But there's every chance it was just a black operations aircraft out on a test flight that failed.
I personally think that there is something being hidden from the people, but you'd think after all these years, if it was a military craft, they'd have told us by now, as it would no longer be a top tech craft!

Maybe we'll know for sure 1 day!


Peace

Jay

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Area 51 has the Alien that the autopsy was carried out on

Many pictures are available of this alien

Also this area was used to develop fighter planes during the cold war and people who worked here could not even tell their spouses where they worked or what they worked on

Nothing much more than that is known

People who worked in Area 51 have claimed not much went on there with the exception of the above

That judgemental guy {Ed033's Note - Obviously Area 51 is just 1 of many bases where black technology/reverse engineering of ET technology is experimented with in America alone but these type of secret bases are all over the world. Another famous place is Pine Gap in Australia.}

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Russia has many such places


And what about the devastion that took place in siberia where a huge expanse of land was cleared

Was it an astroid
An atomic bomb
or an alien spacecraft landing

The damage in the area was "out of this world"

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Its all very well just saying go off and search google but sometimes its handy to maybe give a nudge in the right direction.

I mean just typing area 51 into google must bring up 1000's of links. some very good and some not so good.

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Depends on how you search Mate

Try using dogpile.com

and + or - to add or remove things you don't want?

Can really blame the search engines if you don't know how to use them?

The judgemental guy

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21 Sep 2011 11:50:10
Heres a video i just found of american money being folded in a way that you can see the twin towers on fire.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMgGC9W-ks8

Azza

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Mate I looked at this and thought it was absolute crap! It was so tenuous and not only that, you barely get a second to try and ascertain for yourself exactly what the uploader wanted you to look at, he moves on too quickly.
Raz

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21 Sep 2011 11:18:19
Theres a good vid on YouTube called "don't watch this film" it's for 30 mins, lots of good info, though Maybe some disinfo as well.
Also, check out some of zecharia sitchins stuff on YouTube for info on the Anunnaki.

Ps! Just wanted to clear this up!
Loads of people who are into the whole 2012 thing are saying that Nibiru is coming on that date. That is bulls**t of the highest degree! Nibiru won't be anywhere near us until 2160 as told by the man who translated the Sumerian clay tablets! And when it does come, im sure it won't be the end of the world!

PPS! I wish Nibiru would be visible in my lifetime, but it won't be. Even mainstream science/media are accepting the possibility ( check out Nibiru CNN on YouTube )
Now it may not be Nibiru that they know is far out there, but something is!
I personally believe that Nibiru does exist, as well in believing the Anunnaki. To me anyway, it makes most sense, especially as EVERY religious book out there has story's taken straight from the Sumerian clay tablets.
THE TOWER OF BABEL anyone? Another Anunnaki connection, check for yourselves!

Peace

Jay

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Jay , theres experts that say sitchin got some of his translation wrong , i remember reading somewhere that the tower of babel was built to get people back into space to get to their home planet, but god/ angles/ other life forms like us forbid it , and made humans talk in different lingo to scatter humans into groups , move into other lands etc , i think theres a bit of truth in it , and its good fun looking into it all..........lfc

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LFC

yeah I know some "experts" say that of sitchin, I guess it's down to the individual to believe whoever they like. I myself have no reason to doubt sitchin, non of his other work was questioned, and the tablets he deciphered were the ones the mainstream archaeologists dubbed to hard to translate, so didnt bother.
I just look at his work and a lot of it does make a lot of sense.
Each to their own eh brother?

The babel thing, yeah, heard that as well, it's worth noting that this story is in the bible too!

Do you agree though, that it's very strange that US Troops stole and destroyed Sumerian artifacts? Artifacts which show/speak of Anunnaki, especially as in the bible, they are called the Nephilim.
Have you heard of Marduk? If you have, then I'd imagine you know he is a son of Enke, an Anunnaki god, who is the son of Anu?

Peace to you bro

Jay
Glasgow

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Sitchin has done some really good stuff but I have issues with his explanation of the word "shem". And as it's central to what he's saying, the whole thing appears to be on shaky ground. I do intend reading it all again at some point so I'll find out if it's just me being dim.

Len {Ed033's Note - Apparently Sitchin used to channel a lot of his info from an entity from the group he called the Anunnaki. }

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