Conspiracy Talk Archive November 22 2011

 

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22 Nov 2011 19:38:35
Conspiricies? Where do you start? JFK, Elvis, Michael Jackson? Illuminate? New World Order? The Nephilim? Planet Nibiru? Stone Henge? The Pyramids? World War 2? World War 3???

I love a good conspiracy myself, and to be honest if you think too long and hard about any of them then it will just make your head hurt? Humans are inherently selfish to a degree, greed, money, sex, power, control!! You can never have too much.

Its not what you know its who you know, the worlds filled with back scratchers and palm greasers. In short the world is as bent as a fiddlers elbow. We are all educated to believe we live in a society where we have freedom of speech, and to be allowed to form our own opinions.

The only opinion I can establish is that this world is one F****d up place that won't be destroyed by an asteroid or a black hole or a polar shift but by the very beings that inhabit it. Ironically the ones that are allegedly the most inteligent and not the lesser species like animals, reptiles and insects that take only from the earth that which they require to live.

Its pretty simple, theres no profit and no money in a world of total peace where everyone is equal.

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There's no such thing as totally equal in any species. The strongest and smartest survive while the weak are left to fight for scraps. It's not human nature it is animal nature and regardless of arrogant view that we are something greater we are in fact just animals. If anything we maybe less evolved intellectually than other animals. Dogs can understand our language prettywell( or at the very least are very keen on our nonverbal tendancey's) while we have very little grasp on any other species communication. The only difference is the meak cowardice nature of our species. When a lion feals his liberty is being encrouched upon, he attacks. When a human feels his liberties are being attacked, he picks up a piece of cardboard with generic slogans written upon it and begins singing stuff.

{Ed033's Note - There are theories that humans have been genetically tweaked one or more times to have the traits the tweakers wanted.}

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Yeah ed i actually am of that belief as well, but those higher beings doing the tweaking are but animals their selves. Probably more advanced intellectually but still lacking in the same primal areas

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Dogs don't actually understand our language hey just recognise the sound and respond to it, knowing that their response usually results in them being given a reward. To the same extent we can understand the sound of animals, such as mating calls, warning/distress noises, and growling. Having said all that, I 100% agree with the original poster. Too true.

Adam

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My point was only really to say that conspiracies theories will always exist. Human nature generally dictates that unless you understand something or actually witness it with your own eyes, theres a chance you won't really believe it. Further more every scenario has a multitude of possible outcomes, results or reasons for there own happening based on the randomness of chance, any mitigating curcumstances and pure old coincidence. And as individuals we are all likely to form our own ideas as to why something has happened. Lets face it if the government really knew of the existence of aliens would they tell the public? No. It would cause wide spread panic. If the US government accepted responsibility for the assasination of JFK what would happen? All us theorists would immediately assume all the other theories were true. Where would it end?

Lee

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Wheres the fun in being equal? Thats what competition is for. Theres no ying without yang and all that. You need opposites to make the world go round, duh, polar opposites!

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Could you imagine dog in white lab coats sitting at computers talking about what they are going to tweak about us next.

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22 Nov 2011 18:54:28
Ed

What do you think will happen on December 21st 2012? Do you believe the theories?

G.A.G.U.S
{Ed033's Note - It's highly unlikely anything out of the ordinary will happen on that specific day. Think about it what is so special about that day? I personally believe that there will be no difference between December 20th 2012, December 21st and December 22nd 2012 unless the "negative illuminati" decide to pull a silly stunt.}

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So Santa will come to me a few days later? ;-)

G.A.G.U.S
{Ed033's Note - Yes, santa always comes.}

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There will be only 3 shopping days left till xmas............lfc

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Isn't something supposed to happen with the magnetic field or am i up the wrong chimney?
{Ed033's Note - The magnetic field is in the middle of shifting, the completion of this current magnetic flip may not take place for up to another 200 years or so, although it may happen much sooner. It is unlikely the completion of the magnetic flip will take place in 2012.}

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Does that mean though that the south pole becomes the north pole? that'd screw up tom tom.
{Ed033's Note - Allegedly this has happened many times before in the past where magnetic north flips to south and vice versa. Doesn't happen on just Earth either.}

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Think i read a book on it once. somthing called earth crust deplacement theory by charles hapgood is it? Think they used it in the film 2012, book was by someone called rand flem-ath, canadian geezer who's convinced atlantis is in the antartcic, his website is worth cheecking out.

{Ed033's Note - Could be but the Earth is more likely growing - video showing how the earth has been growing - www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&feature=related

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Nothing will happen. No one can predict the future and for every 'theory' there is always a more believable counter theory.

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So what will happen if the magnets switch?? and nothin will happen on 21.12.12 it just happens that this is the day when the mayans(spelling) said F##k this s##t we are running out of inc and our hands are cramping lol. strange lot the mayans

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22 Nov 2011 16:06:42
does anyone know why people were advertising on tv to buy our old gold?

Azza
{Ed033's Note - This started a few years back. It could be as innocent as realising the price of gold is going to continue to rise and is an attempt to buy low then sell higher at a later date.}

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Mr T wants a new neck chain so his master plan was to buy all the gold through various companies he invented

MJ

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Ed033 - what about phones?

Azza
{Ed033's Note - phones contain precious metals. Silver has also gone up in value loads as well as gold in comparison to currencies. Precious metals hold their value over time. An ounce of gold today buys the same as it did 2000 years ago or more. It's individual currencies that are being devalued which makes precious metals appear to go up in value.}

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The precious metal market is monitored and supply is restricted to inflate prices. Demand is at an all time high due to the ever changing electronics industry. Circuit boards contain Gold, Silver, Copper, Ruthenium, Palladium and Iridium to provide fast conducive non-corrosive materials for electronics to function properly. They are used in small amounts within these devices so what a single person holds in their hand is in fact worthless, but when you start adding up hundreds of cell phones or circuit boards in general the quantity of precious metals is quite evident.
Just like the Oil Industry the price of precious metals are controlled by the companies that mine them. China is the largest producer of Gold and it is also the largest importer just ahead of India.

Daz

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22 Nov 2011 14:15:33
Editor or anyone infact, we should be utilising facebook to educate and enlighten people, you should do a version of this page, i reckon it would spread like wildfire, joe public wont even think about anything other than everyday stuff unless its right under there nose, have any of you thought about doing a facebook page like this?, has anyone attempted it and it got closed down maybe?

ZOLA {Ed001's Note - I don't even use FB, I really can't see the point in doing this as an FB page myself.}

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Zola I don't know if you're aware but there are already several pages on facebook e.g. Chemtrails which deal solely with conspiracies. I might add that doing something like this on facebook immediately makes is a sort of parody of itself too. Facebook is a social networking site currently being ruined by all the business pages and whatever else anyway, let's keep things like this off things like that no?

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Completley disagree with both, i think if your switched on and awake its almost your duty to try and give other people information to make there own minds up, and theres is literally no better, fatser or effective way to do it than facebook, im forever posting links and videos, now a lot of my friends share my views, a lot dont but at least theyre making there own informed decisions. Second poster, i know there is specialist ones that just deal with one thing like the chemtrails, i mean a broader one with variety. Well regardless i feel obliged to educate people so il continue to utilise facebook. People sit on it all day why not make the most out of a bad thing

ZOLA

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"Completley disagree with both, i think if your switched on and awake its almost your duty to try and give other people information to make there own minds up"

That may be how you feel mate and fair enough but not every does think it's their duty to do anything like that. It's equally up to the individual to go and do their homework.

Also, Chemtrails is called Chemtrails but it isn't even really about Chemtrails any more. They cover every single conspiracy going, you name it, they have probably cover it and they constantly upload links and pics/vids. It is a broad one wit variety, you should check it out.

Raz

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Facebook is for people with no life and false friends

MJ

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Don't hold back MJ. Its been useful for tracking some people i haven't seen since i left school, or lost touch with after Uni. But yeah i wouldn't put something like this on there. Something like this your only going to find if your looking for it, and who goes on FB to look for conspiracies? IF the orginal chap wants to put stuff out there then thats up to him and good luck. Mort

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I have to say mate i think thats a terrible attitude, and if you have posted any links or subjects on here yourself its also a massive contradiction, people have got a right to know whats going on, if its a closed shop just to people who come on here and watch videos on youtube then what the point, nothing will ever change, it should be a case of the us and them, not us, the conspirisists and them

ZOLA {Ed001's Note - but this site is public, so nothing closed shop about it at all.}

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I know nothings really private but this site atleast gives you some fealing of privacy. I for one don't necessaraliy want my political views directly next to my face for employers and such to see.

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Yes thats true, too mnay idiots put their whole life on FB. Do people really need to know everything abiout you? Just makes Big Brother even easier. Mort.

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Never said it was closed shop, i said the attitude of 'people should find out for themselves' is, and yeah facebook has lots of bad points that could easily be turned into good points, conspiricies diddnt even cross my mind until about a year ago, until a friend on facebook pointed me in the direction of a few videos and i've never looked back and im glad he did. If eveyone did the same thing the whole world would wake up. Was only asking if a site like this existed anyway, il do my own, dont care if my friends/family/work know what i think or if i get stick or ridiculed as long as i think itl do some good

ZOLA

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On facebook you are deemed a loser if you have less that 500 friends. Thats all that needs to be said!

Adam

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Zola not everyone agrees that just because you have the potential to do so that you should ram stories, beliefs and 'knowledge' down people's throats. I don't go on facebook to get bombarded with carp, I go on there because I want to stay in touch with my mates all over the world. If you want to go on there and shout from the cyber rooftops then go ahead but don't tell me I have a poor attitude for not wanting to use a social networking site for other agendas. Raz

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Your completley twisting what ive said, ram stories down peoples necks? making info easily accsessable is not ramming it down peoples necks, and when did i say i had a problem with people wanting to keep private on facebook, it was your attitude towards sharing i.e people should find out for themselves, your twisting things because i disagree with your opinion,

ZOLA

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Yeah but you pointed out my attitude was bad because I don't want to use facebook to impart knowledge I may have on various topics discussed on here. If you haven't said that then please re-explain. AT the end of the day there are conspiracy groups, chemtrals groups, and loads of other groups already on facebook. I am not part of a movement, I am learning for myself. I have no reason to use facebook for anything other than talking to my mates. I don't put my address on there, I don't put my jobs, hobbies, any of that up there, except bands, who I talk to, and you won't find me in the search listings. If I wanted to scream and shout about conspiracies and Illuminati etc I would probably a) want to do it anonymously, b) not until I was part of a movement, which I currently am not, and c) not somewhere that, sadly, potential employers scour. Not to mention, it isn't for that. That's just my take on your point, so just accept it mate. I am happy sharing info with anyone who ants to know, if I can help them, great, I chat to people on here, and I'm happy to do it elsewhere...just NOT facebook. Ok?!

Raz

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Are you electrical Beast Adam?

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22 Nov 2011 12:33:52
What's in Area 51?

{Ed033's Note - An underground base with tunnels leading to other underground bases

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How do you know that ed ?? None of us know what's really happening and prob never Will....

Matty b {Ed001's Note - there is plentiful evidence to make that the most likely occurrence.}

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Correct ed but not hard evidence. Mostly just peoples word. Not that I'm disagreeing with you but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from. I have watched do many interviews and read so many books on the whole UFO/alien thing. It really does blow your mind......I love hoaglands stuff and project camalot do dome hood work I just don't like the pair of em....bill says erm so many times it drives me crazy..

Matty b
{Ed033's Note - That's ok, I think Bill and kerry are great at interviewing. I certainly couldn't do anywhere near as well as either of them.

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Ed33 was design chief there for awhile.
{Ed033's Note - Are you confusing me with Bob Lazar?}

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You mean your not Bob Lazar?
{Ed033's Note - Bob Lazar allegedly said at Area 51, they mess with your memories and that's one of the reasons why he left. So I could have been at Area 51 and not know it but that means you could have been there also.

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Indeed i could. I'm pretty sure i wasn't. Do you think they have those flashy things like in Men In Black or is it a bit more drug based or other method of memory modifying? Imagine if they started doing it on a larger scale? Could really mess things up.
{Ed033's Note - I don't know but some people are saying we are already being bombarded with frequencies that mess us up.}

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Yes there's too much radiation flying around and it can't all be or mobile phones.
{Ed033's Note - The russians were putting out the "woodpecker" frequency for some reason. Haarp type facilities could be hitting us intentionally with frequencies for mind control among other reasons - Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory HAARP: Part 2/6 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OdO5yJnNc&feature=related

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All very odd. Haarp is also strange........we may of also been abducted and not even know it......I got abducted once they say a minute on earth can last a year when abducted...... I'm still with her now......she makes a good Bacon sarny mind..
Matty b.....

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Woodpecker frequency?

{Ed033's Note - The russians allegedly broadcast a frequency that was called the woodpecker frequency because it sounded like a Woodpecker. It is touched upon here:

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=25&part=3

and

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=29&part=1

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22 Nov 2011 10:55:06
i'll be the first to mention it then. Whats everybody's favourite theory on jfk

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The last gun shot to the head was done by the driver the evidence and video proof is there.

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It wasn't done by the driver! Don't tell me you watched those pathetic youtube videos and concluded that, PLEASE! Unbelievable how many people have done that. If you watch those videos again, that footage clearly shows the sun reflecting off the front passenger's head! And everyone thinks it's the driver's hand holding a gun, it's an absolute joke. And what, I suppose the front passenger just didn't see it? Come on, at least use your brain!

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JFK was actually hit by 5 bullets from different angles

MJ

{Ed033's Note - A bit more to add to the stuff we think we already know about the JFK conspiracy - Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura JFK assassination death bed confession Full length version - www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbVnTtRsQF8

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If you watch the film the government actually tried to state that the one and only bullet swerved into JFK numerous times due to wind currents its quite amusing

MJ
{Ed033's Note - Yes the magic bullet theory that makes no sense and is also discussed in Oliver Stone's movie, JFK to be a ridiculous theory that was put forward by the government investigation.}

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Ah but as Costner said the govt can prove it, they have a special lab......

{Ed033's Note - Yes a special mendacity lab.}

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Wasn't there something like 13 different entry and exit wounds recorded on both President Kennedy and Governer Connelly? Plus the shot that missed? And they expect us to believe that Oswald got off 3 rapid shots with a shoddy bolt action rifle? Even if he could do it and was scurate with all 3 that would stil only make 6 wounds. Ergo there had to be at least 1 more shooter, more than likely 2 as Oswald was nothing but a sideshow.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds about right and in the film JFK they said that the tree Oswald shot through would have had leaves covering his view. If this is true, he also shot when he couldn't see the target.

The magic bullet theory from Oliver Stone's JFK 2 minutes 32 secs video - www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXjf8Jce10

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It is a good film.

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A shooter from the GRASSY KNOLL

{Ed033's Note - Some conspiracy theories about say that a guy called Fred Crisman was on the grassy knoll with the shooter team. Peter Levenda gives a presentation that includes Fred Crisman and if you have watched Oliver Stone's JFK it gives some background on some of the characters in the film as well as Crisman - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj2qrl6Q2rk&feature=related

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22 Nov 2011 03:41:25
A PLAN FOR AWAKENING THE MASSES
It is my belief that people will only rise up against tyranny when they are at their most outraged and helpless. The current powerstructure is moving swiftly toward a financial imbalance that can't be sustained. At the current pace by the time all pieces are in place the card will be stacked against the common man so that he can't acqiure the tools and supplys to combat the power. I feal the only solution is for the enlightened few to start a shadow conspiracy that will expediate public outrage. Rather than rail against the powers that be and device plans to combat their exponential grow, we attack each other in the guise of the establishment. Hack the finanacial institutions not redistribute wealth but to further rob the little man. This will outrage the public enough to rise up

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SO what you're saying is start the fight with those in the same boat as us and pretend it was the enemy? I don't think so.

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Hey Guys, when you guys talk about 'awakening the masses', what do you mean? Should I be aware of something? What do we need to wake up to, and what would be your thoughts on the solution/alternative?

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Ah! A cunning plan indeed Baldrick.

JR

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22 Nov 2011 00:52:01
Dr. Peter Duesberg - Re-thinking AIDS
- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELMm5mAeXU

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