Conspiracy Talk Archive April 24 2013

 

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24 Apr 2013 20:22:34
{Ed033's Note - 3 fantastic videos on the below page (see links at the top of the page) by Geoff Lawton on how to go about growing your own food forest

http://www.geofflawton.com/fe/32461-surviving-the-coming-crises

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24 Apr 2013 19:47:46
I think the concept of "GOD", and tales of "creation-ism" are akin to a children's story.
That being the case, i'd also say the theory of "EVOLUTION" is the proclamation of a know-it-all teenager, or an arrogant 21 year old, at best.
pea

{Ed033's Note - Great presentation by Lloyd Pye - Everything You Know Is Wrong

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I don't believe in GOD or that Humans evolved from apes but Evolution is a fact.

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Evolution happened and will continue to do so way beyond our short time here. No science doesn't have all the answers and never claims to know, but the brightest minds in the world started understanding this concept hundreds of years ago and continue so till this day. As a species, we are getting closer to the understanding if how we came to be, and it is hard to comprehend a lot of the things science tells us. I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I find it difficult to actually comprehend some things. Like the fact that our eyes have more atoms in them than their are stars in our galaxy. stuff like that just blows me away, and on that kind of scale, I think that's where you start peeling away the creation thing. But that's just me!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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I have posted this before guys g. o. d=gold. oil. drugs.

csc on tour

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Pea I agree with you mate. Definitely child stories, possibly why they're taught to us at a young age.

Aaron

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PEA, this video gives a whole new look on the subject. It covers quite a lot and it had me hooked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDOkMEK4uk

Geordie Al

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26 Apr 2013 12:09:00
Evolution is a fact - right, and it's a fact that does not explain our origins.
Darwin - one of the brightest minds, or an elitist propaganda merchant? Might be an avenue worth exploring.

There is a point in my original post. Sometimes, what is not said is more important than what is. pea {Ed001's Note - it is not a fact anyway, it is called the 'Theory of Evolution' for a reason!!!}

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Sorry ed, but it is a fact! Just one some people don't like as it ****s with their somewhat mental beliefs!

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Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - sorry but it is not a fact, no such thing as scientific fact at all, they are all theories, what we call facts are merely the theories that best fit out limited knowledge. Though I do think, personally, there is limited evolution ongoing, it is not a fact.}

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26 Apr 2013 15:28:38
I don't have beliefs, I have thoughts. Limited evolution is patantly obvious. Interspecies "evolution" is palpable nonsense (without genetic 'tinkering', that is) - albeit loaded with all the hubris and folly of so much invested 'belief' by the present western world. pea

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So pea, I take it you have a degree in science, biology or whatever it may be to make such statements? where is the evidence of "genetic tinkering" you speak of?
And ed, really? you don't accept evolution as fact? even with all the brightest minds in the world accepting it, no doubts whatsoever? until proven otherwise (with real evidence) then you must accept it, not like it, but accept it because cmon, it makes most sense and there is plenty of evidence backing it up. Unlike many other theorys people seem to accept with NO evidence, strange!

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Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - sorry but you are talking about circumstantial evidence for limited evolution. The evidence for full evolution is sketchy at best. As for our brightest minds, they are as limited as our knowledge, as are we all. I don't see what is strange about not being convinced by a theory that has as many holes as evolution.}

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That's not what I find strange ed! I find it strange that people can believe things without any evidence at all, like the creation thing or the genetic tinkering thing. Where is ANY evidence backing these claims up?

Peace

Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - there is evidence in the huge gaps, and massive leaps that have taken place. Until you can fill in those gaps, if they can be filled, they will remain as evidence of someone or something altering things. Then it is finding the theory which best suits the knowledge at hand. Some will say we just have yet to fill in the blanks, others will say it is genetic tinkering and yet others will say it is a god of some kind creating. None of those theories are definitely right or wrong until proven to be, and we don't have the knowledge to determine whether any of them are right or wrong yet.}

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This is what I'm talking about! So because there are slight gaps, that means there was tinkering or whatever? What evidence suggests that can be remotely possible? It's ridiculous ed!

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Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - but the gaps are huge. There aren't slight gaps, there are massive gaping holes. There is nothing, then there are us. We didn't come from any obvious source, we just appear with no evolutionary link. Until something is found to fill in the gap a little, it is ridiculous to rule out any theory, just because your own personal bias finds it incredible. As an atheist, I find the creationist story extremely difficult to believe, but I have to accept that it can't be ruled out and so has to remain as a possible option. No matter how distasteful I find the idea of someone meddling with us, whether a god or some ancient scientist/alien whatever.}

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Ed, you know you can rule out creationism, it's bonkers anyone an actually believe that, especially without any evidence! The atoms we are made up of come from a star explosion billions of years ago somewhere out there. We are a mixture of many different things, but mainly all on a molecular/minuscule level. I know u more than likely know things like that and loads more, so that's why I'm struggling to see why you won't rule out creationism! We didn't just appear, it's taken billions if years, and because some people (I'm not saying you) can't see evolution happening, they won't believe it! It's crazy!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - but there is no evolutionary evidence of humanity, it just literally appears in the fossil record fully formed. If it has taken billions of years, we really should be able to find some evidence of a missing link. Until we do, then some form of creationism, whether by scientists or gods, can not be absolutely ruled out. In fact, without that evidence, credence is added to the creationism theory, as there should be no evidence with that.}

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I wouldn't say that helps creationists mate! Nothing can help anyone who is that commuted to their belief, these people probably believ the young earth theory as well! Anyone who believes the earth is only 6000 years old isn't even worth debating with because they "believe" that much no evidence will change their mind! Take away the holy books (all of them) and not one person would mention such an absurd idea! It's a cop out for people who don't like not having answers, and that is very unfortunate for our species!

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Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - it does help creationists, because their theory would leave no trail to follow and no missing link to find. Though it doesn't prove anything one way or the other.}

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I believe in god as in something either created us or helped us along I don't believe this nonsense about religion It hink the hindus are right when they say they live different lives after we die but the "afterlife" is not decided by some hypocritical all knowing god who one minute says you go to hell if you do something bad then says "I forgive all" Religion that's all about peace only causes war, WW2 War on Terror, Cruasades, The Troubles so on and so forth

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27 Apr 2013 17:44:57
I'm not for telling people what to do, but I would suggest you would benefit from unlearning what you have learned, Jay.

Peace/Pax (war on your mind, bro) pea

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Hi pea, please divulge!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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24 Apr 2013 18:09:48
if I was home secretary qatada would be in the back of van on his way to an airbase and straight on the plane out. Stuff the lawyers what they going to do once he's gone.

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24 Apr 2013 19:41:33
Well, judging by your post you're not the home secretary, and besides, the home secretary would let him in without a passport IF he landed in a private jet at any one of the "UK" airports! pea

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26 Apr 2013 19:07:32
No I meant pick him up from the police station in an army truck, straight to the nearest raf air base, onto a military transport plane and straight to jordan. Nothing to do with passports. Stops the leachs sorry lawyers raking in more tax payers money stopping this trash from being rightfully chucked out.

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24 Apr 2013 15:12:14
Can somebody explain to me what the "Sirius" documentary actually is. Thanks.

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It's a new feature length documentary from the CSETI founder, Dr. Steven Greer. It outlines his "quest" for disclosure so far, drops heavy hints about his 'free energy' experiemnts facility and then ends with the DNA testing of a humanoid creature found in the Atacama desert. This is a 6-8 inch humanoid figure that has been mummified at altitude by the looks of it. A perfectly formed humanoid being, but in miniature.
his website is siriusdisclosure.com if you want to check it out, or you can find out more with a quick Google search.

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