Conspiracy Talk Archive October 27 2013

 

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27 Oct 2013 13:10:11
Hey Eds and regular posters any football related conspiracies out there that are maybe less talked/known about?
Jack!

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{Ed002's Note - I heard that the Southport F.C. team that were unexpected runners-up in Division 4 in 1966/67 were made up of the undead.}

I can conker with that.

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Barcelona (definately) and possibly Real Madrid so basically most of the Spanish national team and I think Valencia to name a few of the teams which apparently used doctors on an ad hoc basis with strong links to Lance Armstrong's medical team.
Eds or anyone know what's happened about the 300 or so blood bags that a Spanish judge wanted destroyed (very strange decision)? Which sports persons were they samples of?
Messi being given HGH from a young age and apparently that's ok?
Sandro rossell of Barca paying in between 1 to 2 million euros or so to a top fifa official's daughters account not long after the 2nd CL final against Manchester United. What was that payment for?
Apparently rumoured to be for influencing referees. They certainly benefited from some strange decisions over a few years with players from opposing teams getting strangely sent off (RVP for one), I certainly remember a period when you only had to look at a Barca player and they were awarded free kicks and able to control flow of the game and possession.
I'm still convinced it's going on.
Referees used to get given gifts of nice watches and nice female shaparons supplied by the home team in Italy and probably elsewhere in the 90's and I'd imagine it still goes on today.
There is a few for you and I can go into more detail on any of them. Be interesting to hear one of the eds thoughts and some of this stuff has gone a bit quiet, certainly the blood bag samples and sandro rossells payment to a fifa officials daughters bank account.

Supasub

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28 Oct 2013 12:04:11
I'm a level 7 referee (Which is the lowest level for adult football local Sunday league etc) and was told during my training that it does not matter how good you are you will only be promoted to the top panel if you know the right people in the FA, UEFA and FIFA.

Jonty

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Fuentes confided to someone in prison that if the world knew the truth then Spain would have the World Cup removed from them immediately. The Spanish team covers most of barcelona and Real Madrid so this could most certainly apply to barcelonas haul of trophies in recent years.
Guardiola tested positive for nandrolone whilst in Italy and was strangely absolved when investigated. The same club doctor then at Brescia went on to become a doctor at barcelona under guardiola.
Eric abidal needed a liver transplant which soused suspicion as severe liver damage is a well documented side effect of substance abuse, particularly nandrolone. There are far too many coincidences. Barcelona would even travel to away games including champions league the same day as the match as this allegedly meant that it was very difficult for the team to be drug tested by uefa or anyone else for that matter. In Spain they only test rarely and nearly always urine and not blood which I think both are required in our country.
I look at players like Puyol, Maldini (when he was playing), Sanchez, Adriana (barcelona), Aguero, totti, Ibrahimovic etc to name a few who all seam to have become bulkier as they've got older and I don't mean larger. The muscle tone almost becomes artificial.
I just think its rife particularly in Spain and Italy regarding Europe. Blatter and co must keep it absolutely quiet whilst they love the fact that Barca, Madrid and Classico carry such a weight worldwide as they are trying to ensure sponsorship and global deals grow against other sports to line their own pockets. I'm also convinced even as jonty possibly points too that British clubs are treated harshly as they don't like the power of the FA and particularly Spanish and German clubs and to a lesser extent Italian clubs are shown favouritism to keep them involved at the highest level without going to an alternative/breakaway European league/tournament.
Blatter and co need only have a conversation with their head of refereeing (who incidentally is the ref who sent off RVP for arsenal against Barca when arsenal got back in the game)" look, you need to make sure that you consider decisions carefully considering we want Barca, Real Madrid, bayern, inter, juventus etc in the latter stages. We wouldn't want it to effect your role as a referee would we?"
For example. Probably have this conversation all season every season I'm sure of it.

Supasub

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Terrific post Supasub.

Ryan.

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There is no test for designer steroids, also with the money in football I.e economies, governmental figures are in on the scam. I've cinema bit of research on Rinaldo, and as a heavy gym user I know what it takes to build a strong physique. Footballers do cardio cardio cardio, its not a regime that builds muscle. Low bodyfat, moderate to high muscle mass is not what come as a result of a footy players regime. Low fat diet + cardio = little muscle mass.

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Steroids, fixed games and corruption in pro sports? I don't believe it. There's been no history of that. It's a lie I tell you.
Zari

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What about Brazil selling the 98 final to France for Fifa to give them an easy route to 02 final and the chance to host it 2014 or Gerrard didn't sign for Chelsea because his family got threatened by Scouse underworld
Hollow Visions

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27 Oct 2013 10:25:13
9/11 cover up story is so pathetic, so so bad, is there any one left who still believes that it was 'planes'?

Aron

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Yes there are people all around the world who still believe including probably most of the population of the United States.

Supasub

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Supasub you would be surprised, for instance they done a poll in new york about 9/11 and it was 60/40 that the government were not telling them everything, don't forget mainstream media would never put that a majority of people thought 9/11 being an inside job.

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{Ed033's Note - Yes, but there is a world of difference between what actually happened on 911 and the government not telling people everything they know about 911.

I think if I can remember edd the poll was on the line of "do you think our government is hiding major facts about 9/11? even if part of the 60% do not think there government was not involved, it still makes people question what they are getting told which can only be good.

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{Ed033's Note - yes, all i'm saying is 9/11 is way beyond, what virtually everyone thinks actually happened

28 Oct 2013 08:55:42
How ridiculous, it's clear that when the massive jumbo jet hit the buildngs steal beams and the fuel warped them, the sheer weight of the building came Down, boom boom boom as the top crushed down and eliminated the rest of the building.

Gobblemaster

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Just as ridiculous as a plane doing that to the building put out of all that destruction and a pristine passport survivors the carnage.

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@Gobblemaster
Nonsense my friend, your explanation is a repetition of the 9/11 Commission Report. Your belief that this can actually happen is merely a figment of your imagination. Please read this link

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/newtlaws/

If you still cannot accept that the official explanation is nonsense, this video explains why

Psychologists Explain 911 Denial
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pGbEJ3pXwWM

MrTrotskysGhost

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Just returned from New York on my stag do (or bachelor party as it's known over there!). I hadn't visited ground zero in a few years so it was on my to-do list.
Just to explain my position. I 100% believe that there is a huge cover up regarding this disaster. I find the black technology theories, the balls up the media made whilst reporting the incident and there are many more. But myself, the thing that gets me the most is tower 7. Why/how did it fall. The manner in which it fell (straight collapse on itself). Silverstein's comments afterwards about 'pulling it". The BBC reporting its collapse whilst the building was still standing in camera shot!

I went to Ground zero with the intention of asking locals/tour guides/police officers etc about my suspicions. But on arriving, and taking a tour of the new 9/11 museum, the emotion got the better of me and all thoughts of conspiracy went out the window. That night I did try to school a couple of my fellow Irish buddies on my opinion on what actually happened and was surprised by their curiosity and intrigue.
So I would agree with the statistic. I believe that the vast majority of people feel that we are being kept in the dark about something. The confusing thing is what exactly.

P. s. Talking to a friend of mine who works high up in the insurance racket in New York told me that the new buildings on the world trade site have not been proving too popular with regards companies purchasing floors/office space. For obvious reasons,
So the powers that be (Silverstein et al) have decided to change the name. You probably all know the first building which is nearing completion was called 'The freedom tower' (I certainly did!). Well it now has renamed the WTC1. Just goes to show that money really does triumph all!

Sorry for the long post

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Macko great post mate.

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Cheers Franky!
One other thing that I didn't know. Not sure if you or any of the eds had heard of either.

You probably knew that Silverstein had a huge insurance claim on world trade centre. But when he went to collect he looked for double the payout. The reason? 2 planes = 2 incidents! Crazy s***, I know! Sickening things is he won. He got double his money!
And ****ed up the whole insurance game in America because every insurance refused to give 'Terrorism Insurance' on buildings!
Well that was up until a couple of years ago, when they started to do this again! But the insurance premium is almost 100% of the value of the building itself! Hence the reason my mate is high up in the insurance game. He works for the first company to come up with that idea!

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He got 4. 55 billion from an investment of 3. 2, and was actually demanding a lot more. He had to settle for a profit of 1. 35 billion on a property he owned for 48 days. We should have a whip round for the poor fella.

Ryan.

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Yeah mate I knew silverstein went for the double whammy, its a bit like your car being bumped by another car and as you try to avoid the first car you get hit by a another car then make two claims of the two cars, only in america eh?

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