Conspiracy Talk Archive December 28 2011

 

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28 Dec 2011 18:52:12
i am speeking to a woman i chatted to on facebook poker(dont tell the wife ,lol, harmliss stuff)well she is from colorado , iaint great on geography but never new it is by new mexico were she was born and denver airport is her main airport, she is interested in conspiracy stuff and i will send her the link to this site edd,but the thing is she has not got a clue about dulce stuff or the airport in denver with the strange paintings and supposed underground bunkers,hop we can all open her eyes when she see"s this site.
frankyscouse

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Not sure why 4 people disagree with Franky....

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Its 10 people now haha, i must be a popular fooker lol, right guys trying to download some karaoke for my new years eve party , catch u soon.
frankyscouse

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28 Dec 2011 09:51:08
ed, if it's true (which is highly debatable) that aliens created us then wouldn't they be over 40million years old. and why do we share so much dna with other animals eg, gorillas and chimps.?

{Ed033's Note - One the theory is that the most advanced ape creature (hominid) on Earth was genetically tweaked multiple times by ETs to "create" us.

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I understand that ed but wouldn't that alien civilization have to be over a few million years old to of created us ? because there's evidence that humans are millions of years old (not humans but the beings we descended from.).

or do you mean we we created on earth naturally by evolution but we were tweaked/help along the way by the aliens?

(also what do you believe happened to us?)

{Ed033's Note - I'm aware of Michael Cremo's Forbidden Archeology info. I don't have a problem with alien civilisation's being millions of years older than us. I'm aware that there are hominids such as sasquatch still around. But putting it all together is difficult at the moment as we don't have all the jigsaw pieces. All I was saying is that ETs came here in the past, and mixed sasquatch type creatures (hominids) that were on the Earth and genetically tweaked them to ultimately create the original humans. This explains why we have ape dna and allegedly dna not from Earth. Since then humans called have been genetically tweaked multiple times.

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With you ed, there is a lot of clues and info available but there just isnt quite enough to piece it all together. Ancient civilisations knew a lot more about our origins and future than we do now, but unfortunatley its gets lost and misinterpreted as mythology over time. Original poster if your interested in it, research the late 'Zecharia Sitchin', hes a bit of a guru about it all. Everything he says makes sense to me, Also research the sumerians, they play a big part in it all

LIAM

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Ok i get the means and opportunity but what was the motive? Mort.

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Its all speculation and guesswork mate, but most agree that the annunaki/nephilim or whatever you want to call them came here from Planet x/nibiru for our natural resources. We were created as primitive workers to basically do there mining. Maybe they became attatched to us and left, maybe there was other reasons. Im sure we'll find out soon tho

LIAM

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With you on that Liam!

Peace

Jay Glasgow

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If your an advanced extra-terrestrial civilisation, capable of inter planetary travel, inter-stellar travel and can also manipulate dna then surely your advanced enough to get a few minerals or metals out of a planet without having to go around tinkering with native species genetics to upgrade them and use them as miners . They could just beam it up or something.

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No matter how advanced they could be, I'm pretty sure just beaming something up, no matter where it is or how difficult it is to get to would prove difficult for anyone of any advanced technological background.
In short, not as simple as just going, ok let's turn on the beam that can syphon through raw materials for the minerals we need!

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Jay
Glasgow

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Not necessarily though, we haven't developed the technology but others could well have, it has to be easier than messing with genetics, imagine the amount of trouble that would have taken, the amount of faffing that would have taken. Its supposed to have taken millions of years to cook us up yeah? Surely if you were just after mining goods you would find an easier way than genetically altering a species. Technology would be much quicker.

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Your wrong mate, inter planetary travel is not far away at all if it isnt already possible. And thats with the technology that joe public knows about. And what makes you think altering somethings genetics is hard. Us mere earthlings have being doing it for a while, GM foods, crossbreeding, cloning. Also, noone claimed anything as fact, it is just one theory that we were modified to take there workload. Your asking us to verify if they had the technology to laser beam minerals from stone, how are we meant to know? all we can do is research then provide an educated guess basically. What is your theory then mate?

LIAM

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But even we are playing with genetics/DNA, which shows you that it can't be that hard for them either ( if they're there ). So if you imagine how long they've been doing it, it'll be a lot simpler for them.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's theoretically possible for such a device, but as we have no reference point on such a device, it is hard to imagine how it would actually work.

I think it's very possible that our DNA was played with by the Anunnaki, and the whole story was edited all over the globe by different religions to suit their own agenda. But hey, that's just my personal opinion, and I'm always open to a different viewpoint!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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Agreed Liam!

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Jay
Glasgow

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Took the words out of my mouth mate ha!

LIAM

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Liam i never said that inter-planetary travel isn't far away, i said that we haven't developed transporter technology at the moment.

Cloning hasn't been a great success and is stil yeras away from producing thats viable for more than 5 years.

GM crops, well we still don't know all the risks with those now do we.

Just because you can cook something up in a lab doesn't mean that it is a success.

And my point was that taking something like a chimp and tweaking and producing us would take a long time, as there are a lot of variables. Lots could go wrong, there would have to be long study periods. You'd probably have to write whole batches off and go back to the drawing board. It would take a long time. So whats the point?

I never said anything about asking you to verify anything about "laser beam minerals" I just said that it would be a much easier to obtain materials than going around tampering with the genetic code of species to use them as miners. Like i said if they can travel between different solar systems which we are all assuming they can, and its something we can;t do yet, then if they have the technology to travel lie that then they must also have some sort of beaming technology, which would be quicker and cheaper to do rather than playing around with an alien species dna on a trial and error basis.

I'm not disagreeing that aliens may have altered our genetic code, i'm just questioning the motive, i duisagree with all this miners thing.

Is that reasonable enough? {Ed001's Note - cloning has already produced viable clones, the problem is that the research allowable limits scientists. But I am sure there are huge strides being made in secret.}

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But they only have a limited term of life ed, they last only a number of years, not really that great. Maybe more is done in secret but we have no reference point to that {Ed001's Note - but it works, considering the limitations on the legally allowable research, that is a miracle. What is being done in secret will no doubt far surpass that. I doubt the US will be holding back, just like they have never held back on researching chemical weapons.}

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Thing is, no one knows what their tech could be like. could have beams or not. but in all honesty, none of us have a clue what they could have, we only go on what we hear, read or see. they could have things that our minds may not be able to comprehend as we only know what works on our planet or what the brightest minds here have produced.

also, the tweaking the dna thing didnt happen properly the 1st time around, it took a lot of effort to get it right. ( if the sumerians are to be believed )
plus, if they were doing that way back then, they have most likely perfected it by now.
i do see what your trying to say, but from everything i read, listened to and researched, the most likely ( doesnt mean its true ) truth of our origins has ties with the Anunnaki.

ps. its actually quite farcical how many hints are left in the bible and other religious books about the Anunnaki/Nephilim etc...

peace

Jay
Glasgow

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I think that dna manipulation is orders of magnitude easier than matter transportation, as far as i'm aware " beaming" any matter is impossible because of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. hope this helps!

p.s. love these sites ed
hopefully with sensible debate we can continue the search for truth and find out who is shafting us!

liono74 (all the best for the year coming everybody!)

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Unsigned poster, yeah thats all reasonable mate, thats just for me a probable reason, hence why i said its all speculation and guesswork, there isnt much to base an opinion off other than ancient texts ands drawings etc which isnt ideal, iv'e no doubt that we were tweaked tho, the sumerians (6000) years ago had an accurate understanding of space and the solarsystem which just wouldnt happen by looking up at the sky from your cave.

LIAM

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And of course the mystery chromosone situation

LIAM

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Jay thats the point i was making, we have no idea what their tech could be like.

We can only go on what tech we have and what we have seen in the movies.

I agree that we got tweaked by Anunnaki or whatever they call themselves i just don't get the why. As you said yourself they didn't get it quite right the first time. It just seems a lot of trouble to go to to make a workforce. Althoygh i agree by now they would have it perfected, so are we to be replaced?

Yes there's a lot of hints in various religious texts that get ignored or misused.

Liono74 Heisenberg may apply to ourselves but who's to say that there isn't a way around it? Afterall Einstein got around the Newtonian model of physics and now with the research at Cern it looks like there is a way around the Einsteinian model, so anything could be possible?

Liam, agreed its all just speculation on our part. As i have said i do not disagree with the tweaking theory, after all they had method, means and opportunity, i just struggle with the motive. There is plenty of evidence in various religious texts and in all the monuments around the world that they have visited.

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Maybe we would of exelled as a spieces and it is a "duming down" so we didnt get to advanced fast... To hard to say need to hear it from a E.T

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28 Dec 2011 01:46:28
Anyone ever watch that TV programme The Big Bang Theory (really rubbish comedy soap)? You noticed the intro scene, starts with the big bang and then flies through evolution, but contains some unnecessary imagery to do with NWO? Also the Eurostar ad, in association with the 2012 Olympic Games?

Raz

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The program is good

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27 Dec 2011 23:49:20
If or more likely when, computers get smarter than us then we're finished. What would they need us for? It'd be like terminator or the matrix. We've created our own end.

{Ed033's Note - It would be a bit bad if computers started saying, "resistance is futile".}

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Not necessarily mate, if its on the brink of happening here, its almost certainly happened for every other race of E.T's, and they seem to be ok (not that i know any haha), i think its hand in hand with cracking space travel and just generally learning more about the universe. I think the problem would be if this new computer intelligence fell into the wrong hands and was used the wrong way, still dont think id trust any robots tho not after 'i robot'

LIAM

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Ill just pull the plug if they mibehave.
jamesmack8

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27 Dec 2011 23:48:54
Guys, Has anyone been watching the American TV series 'The Event'?

Quick summary if you have not seen it, a number ET's from from another planet crash landed in 1967. The American government improsened them for 50 or so years until a new radical (black) president sought to release them and tell the world of their existence.

Story transpires further, that the original members who by the way live much longer than humans and who's DNA is only marginally different from our own, want to bring their entire popuation to earth following the impendind destruction of their own planet (Going Supernova).

Furthemore we discover that they were actually on this planet before us humans beings, and that their return will somehow lead to their 'Next Step' in their evolution, of which us lesser beings will not be able to survive.

All im saying is that the writers of this story are possibly leaking some half truths into our Psyche and somehow subconsciously preparing us for this actual scenario. Has anyone is seen this show and does what im descrbing ring true with any other conspiracy theories you guys believe in? Please discuss.

{Ed033's Note - The NWO crowd are allegedly extremely scared that the "Annunaki" will return as early as the end of 2012 and remove them from power because of the mess they have made here since the "Annunaki" left.}

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No mate but that sounds well worth a watch il find it 2moz. And it wouldnt surprise me one bit if the plot of it is actually exactly whats going on. The evidence that E.T's have been here before is blatant and plenty, The question is when they return will it be in peace? Did they just 'tweak' our DNA to help us on a bit, Or did they have more sinister reasons? Too many questions not enough answers, still excited by it all tho haha!

LIAM

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The whole Anunnaki thing is very strange. I do believe that the illuminati/nwo believe these beings to be real and set themselves up accordingly. Though I'm not entirely sure that it'll be 2012 they'll return ( if they ever will ) as if you believe the Anunnaki theory, then you have to at least consider the possibility of Nibiru, and IF Nibiru does exist then it won't be round until round about 2180 if you go along with the 3600 year elliptical orbit.
Loads of people have put the whole 2012 thing with Nibiru which to me discredits Nibiru a lot, hence everyone thinking Nibiru is a load of cock and bull, which it very well might be. I personally believe it's a slight possibility that Enke ( Anunnaki ) did tweak our DNA, as so far is the only kind of logical explanation from us being Neanderthals one minute, to building pyramids the next.

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

{Ed033's Note - If the Annunaki are that advanced, they don't have to wait for any planet to arrive to visit us, they could come here at any time in crafts. They may may arrive at the end of 2012 for ritual reasons. When I put "Annunaki" before, I really meant any advanced ET group that could remove the illuminati/nwo from power.}

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The shows pretty good, but obviously very 'American' in the style and format for the show. Nonetheless very thought provoking in the 'cover ups' and ways in which the government would look to shield us from the truth. Also there does seem to be a growing number of new 'Alien' based shows coming out from America over the last year or so, interesting the lead up to 2012.

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Can't argue with that ed, as usual you're spot on again!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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