Conspiracy Talk Archive September 29 2011


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29 Sep 2011 21:14:05
thanks ed was worried about that didn't want to type it all out again. Mort

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29 Sep 2011 21:03:48
Right, one of the main things i've often wondered on thr JFK assassination hasn't been the the who or the how but the why. Answer that and you get the who.

Donald Sutherlands character on Oliver Stone's film JFK hit the nail on the head:

"Sometimes I think the organizing principle of any society is for war, the authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers."

"It's standard procedure, especially in a known hostile city like Dallas... supplement the Secret Service.
Even if we hadn't let him ride with the bubble-top off...
...we would've put 100 to 200 agents on the sidewalk without question. " [FROM THE JFK SCRIPT, BEAR THIS ONE IN MIND FOR LATER]

"The how and the who is just scenery for the public.
Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the Mafia...
...keeps them guessing, like a game.
Prevents them from asking the most important question: why?
Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefited?
Who has the power to cover it up? Who? " [FROM THE JFK SCRIPT AGAIN. BUT NAILS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO SAY]

"Find out the defense budget since the war began. $75 going on $100 billion.
Nearly $200 billion will be spent before it's over.
In 1949, it was $10 billion.
No money.
The organizing principle of any society, Mr. Garrison... for war.
The authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers."

Right sorry for the long quotes, especially if you have seen JFK and know the bit i mean.

Hope this works this time, if not i have also put in the link to the video at the end. Its not great quality, and maybe you have seen it before. I hadn't until yesterday. And i was shocked, especially given what Donald Sutherlands character said in JFK about standard operating procedures.

But back to the main point, the why.

I'm hoping that link works this time but if not i'll throw in a few choice quotes.

Here is the main site link just in case then go to the site map and look for JFK.

Most people know that the FEDERAL Reserve bank is creating the US dollars. But the truth is that the Federal Reserve is not federal at all, but owned by twelve super-wealthy International Banking families, such as the Rothschild’s and the Rockefellers. This is a well hidden secret, but can even be verified in “Encyclopedia Britannica

What JFK did was to create interest-free government money, backed up by the silver reserve, contrary to the Federal Reserve money, which is not backed up by anything as you will find out if you continue reading. He wanted to pay off the US debt this way. Apparently aware of the secret behind the Federal Reserve, he decided to go back and follow the Constitution. Of course, this was a very dangerous thing to do, because if he was allowed to continue, it could put the International bankers out of business in the long run. So this was even more serious than to reorganize the CIA.

Interestingly enough, soon after the assassination the interest-free money was taken out of circulation(1).

Kennedy signed a not very well known Executive Order, # 11110(2) in June of 1963, only five months before the assassination (also, click here to read ALL Executive Orders JFK wrote throughout his Presidency, ordered by numbers). This Order returned the power to issue currency to the government, without going through the Federal Reserve Bank. Kennedy gave the Treasury the permission to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury. In plain language this means that for every ounce of silver in the US Treasury vault, the government could let new money into circulation. JFK brought nearly $4.3 billion U.S. notes(3) out on the market. So, we can now clearly see that by signing this Executive Order, he was about to put the Federal Reserve Bank (and with them all the International Bankers) out of business. The Federal Reserve Notes would eventually not be in demand anymore, and by doing so, Mr. Kennedy probably also signed his own death warrant.

Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed up by silver.

Maybe the assassination of President Kennedy was a warning to successors not to "make the same mistake" as this courageous President did. Brilliance is only allowed and acknowledged if it serves the Illuminati Agenda. Although Mr. Kennedy was of an Illuminati bloodline and probably also an occultist on some level, and even involved in practices common man would disagree with, I believe he was a man of honor when it came to politics and he took his job seriously. Being a Kennedy (Illuminati Bloodline) was enough for the International Bankers to sponsor him, thinking he would adjust to the Agenda. Especially when his mob related father, Joe Kennedy, fought hard to get his son into the Office. Joe was in great favor of the Illuminati king pins.

But time told them they had made a mistake and put a person in power whom refused to abide and had his own ideas, eager to execute them. The same thing goes for his brother Robert, and his son John F. Kennedy Jr., whom threatened to reveal the Secret Behind Power shortly before he had his "accident". It is very interesting to see that all those three Kennedy's are now dead before their time, while Edward (Ted) Kennedy is still alive, being the one who goes in father Joe's footsteps to bring the New World Order into a reality.

The JFK intention to end the Vietnam War (which was a very profitable war for the bankers) by 1965 would severely have cut the profits of the private owned Federal Reserve Bank and the banking establishment.

There is loads more in there including something on the connections between Lincoln and Kennedy....

the video on youtube


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Who is the illuminati , and who has lots of sway in american polices and banking , check out the jesuits, the knights of malta , you may be shocked at lots of these so called bloodlines , zionists , right wing bapists , etc they are indeed only carrying out the work of their masters in rome ,who are also behind a lot of the eu stuff , disimformation is every where , look into the history of these so called peacful churchs you will find a lot of scary stuff , not the descent people who follow faith but the dark powers at the top that mis-use it.........lfc

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The Donald Sutherland character is based on L Fletcher Prouty who has written books about the JFK assasssination and was interviewed on the 'Men who killed Kennedy' series

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29 Sep 2011 17:38:22
Hi guys not so much a conspiracy but if you have an open mind it may help us out It's called the secret and its on DVD certain bits are on youtube and you can get the secret app on android (it's free) for your phone its about positive thinking (sounds boring i know) but i swear to god it is brilliant just give it a try


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That's your opinion but not mine. My opinion is that if you sit in a ferrari or think about a bike or stick a picture of a house up on a board, I can tell you they do not magically appear as the Secret suggests. Not only that this is no secret as it has been about for a very long time.

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Well you obviously didny see the OPEN MIND part of my post negative things happen to negative people im not saying positive people dont get them but negativity draws negativity but if you stay positive and desire things life tends to unfold in a happier manner but you obviously didnt understand the issue of the secret


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Yeah kind of makes sense MJ, power of the mind sort of thing. So if i keep thinking that my boss falls off his chair he will do, or the hot girl in the office to look at me she might do. Slightly puerile reasoning i know but by focusing the power of the mind on the thing you want you can increase the chances....

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MJ you are on the right track but its not as easy as you make it out

A few extras are required young man

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If you concentrate on the boss falling off the chair it will happen may take awhile however Karma may come to visit you just to balance things out, still want him to fall off the chair?

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29 Sep 2011 16:56:54
what do people think of all these ufo and alien programs now on tv there was this much a few years ago?

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There was more on tv in the late 80s early 90s i had a an idea for a live tv show all about ghost hunting and paranormal investigations as far back as 1990 never did follow it up though and look at the programmes that have been made since {Ed033's Note - Someone it seems wants people to think that ufo's and aliens are a possibility.}

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I love these aliens programs but I really miss ALF he was just the business

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You sir and ALF are both idiots

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29 Sep 2011 12:33:54
ah sorry raz mate i'll look at that later. I wanted to go more in depth on that but i was stunned at the video clip. Others have probably seen it before. If not well its surprising. Mort

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