Conspiracy Talk Archive December 02 2012

 

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02 Dec 2012 22:41:23
a good interview on youtube david shayler on sky news were the interviewer sounds shocked about what the former mi5 agent is saying,its worth a checkout.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Is it the one below from 6 years ago?

David Shayler on Sky News - Part 1 of 3

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No edd he was in studio with a sky news feller and some other science feller who found shaylor interesting but never believed him,the thing that stood out for me was the sky anchorman sounded really shocked about the stuff we talk about on here every day,which is quite surprising considering what type of job he is in, then he tries to question shaylors beliefs and shaylor bats him away a matter of factually.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Ok, I have changed the video

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That's the one edd,funny thing about the video edd is they are supposed to be discussing the soviet spy who got poisoned and died in london and they brought shaylor in for hes expert views on it but the sky presenter was taken aback about shaylor saying 9/11 and 7/7 was a inside job it threw the presenter.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - David Shayler probably changed the subject to get the 9/11 issue onto the main stream media. It's a pity David Shayler now thinks he is the Messiah.

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To be honest he did throw the 9/11 comment in lol,yeah seen a video about him being the new messiah ,he is still well clued up when talking but agreed it is a pity , it takes all credit ability away from the real stuff he knows inside mi5 and things we write on this site everyday.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - David Shayler was possibly the only person who was invited onto main stream media and could talk about 9/11 or 7/7 etc. as being false flag operations without being called "names" because he was seen by the main stream media as credible and qualified because he was a counter-terrorist MI5 agent. As soon as he announced he was the Messiah, he was no longer credible and was no longer invited onto main stream media.

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Sorry he actually said he was the "Messiah" ?? Obviously i've missed this in the mainstream. But he actually said it? Not words put in his mouth or some sort of smear to discredit him? Dt goit lol Mort

{Ed033's Note - Yes, David Shayler is convinced he is the Messiah and says it. He says he became convinced by a "Spirit" leading him to certain documents and certain things that have happened to him.

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Cheers ed, what a tool. Mort

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02 Dec 2012 19:17:22
{Ed033's Note - The Clock of Giza part 1

{Ed033's Note - The Clock of Giza part 2

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02 Dec 2012 18:12:30
I am having a bit of a 'debate' with a friend via e-mail over conspiracies in general, she is very sceptical about the majority of conspiracy theories but we seem to have hit a brick wall over something and I wonder what all you guys think, what is your opinion on Anne Frank and her diary(s). There is a lot of evidence that they aren't 100% genuine so I thought I would see what you guys know.

Padawan

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What evidence? Where?

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If you are under the impression that the holocaust was a hoax setup by the Allied to make the germans look bad you need your head checking.

Kopping a feel

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I am going to play devils advocate here,i dont think the holocaust was a set up,but there seems to be a opinion that the death toll was greatly exaggerated for a reason that still exists today,Israel ,i don't claim to know everything and i could be wrong about this but since i have been questioning the people that rule us one thing stands out every war other people or countries gain something,so if the USA could only attack the middle east if someone attacked them first why not the persecution of the Jewish people could be the only way to get there own country?just throwing it out there.
frankyscouse

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Good point frankie . I also don't believe the holocaust was faked, however this is a website which encourages people to question what they are told by their governments so surely the guy isn't totally out of line by suggesting there's a possiblity that what we've been told isn't wholly true.


Need to stress though I totally disagree with the guys opinion but just playing devils advocate.


Gordo

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Where in my original post did I mention anything about the Holocaust not happening, please point it out to me? I was questioning the authenticity of the Anne Frank diaries. The fact she used a ballpoint pen to write them, the fact her father paid a writer Meyer Levin substantial monies after a court hearing. There are a few other things including the style of writing, the detail of early entries when there was no reason to write so much without knowing what was going to happen. At no point have I said the Holocaust did not happen in my OP.

Padawan

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I have read a bit about this. The strangest thing for me is why would a young teenager write that she hoped her diary would be published.

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The 'original' diary is in a Swiss bank vault.They don't tell you that at the museum. Interesting topic when you read up on it.

{Ed033's Note - On a similar note, the original Queen Victoria diaries are not the ones that are shown to the public. They don't want people knowing that she thought she was communicating with Prince Albert on the "Other Side" through a Medium (one of her servants)

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What do you make of the anne frank story ed?

{Ed033's Note - In my opinion, it would be obvious that if you're going to publish someone's written accounts of life over 2 years, you would make it a more "exciting" story for the reader; or the publisher would tell you to turn it into a more "exciting" story for the reader, in order for it to be published. Therefore, you would add fictional content to it. And if you weren't much of a writer, you would get someone to add fictional content to it for you.

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So you think Meyer Levin added stuff into it 033?

{Ed033's Note - I wouldn't know

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I think we should open the debate edd,in your opinion edd do you think the Holocaust was exaggerated for the reasons i mentioned in my previous post?
frankyscouse
{Ed033's Note - probably

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Franky it might be controversial but I definitely think that the Holocaust numbers were greatly exaggerated. The evidence of lies and cover ups is too overwhelming. There are some very interesting reads on here, starting with Padawan's question about the authenticity of the Anne Frank Diary.

http://goo.gl/3clXd

Remember people, Anti-Zionism is NOT Anti-Semitism. There is a BIG difference.

The Turrican (a newbie) {Ed001's Note - it must be said that there are precedents set for gaining mass sympathy by claiming persecution. It worked for Christianity, for instance, who massively exaggerated reports of persecution in Roman times, in order to gain sympathy. It would certainly not be beyond the realms of possibility to make the tragedy seem far worse than it actually is. It must be remembered that also, to add to the Zionist-Semitism point, that thinking it might have been exaggerated is not the same as thinking it didn't happen.}

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01 Dec 2012 18:10:46
As a life-long football supporter, conspiracy theorist and follower of WonderDogSparky on Twitter, it came to me as a shock today to find that there are strong links between the Illumanati and a certain Liverpool player.

Illuminati > Ordo Templi Orientis > Thelema (a Unicursal Hexagram) > Aleister Crowley > JonJonJo.

Do What Thou Wilt? Indeed. Maybe Kenneth Anger was right all along?

Son of Godhead

{Ed033's Note - FSG could now be turning to this certain Liverpool player, to perform certain Magik (The 3 Methods of Liber Yod) in order to enhance Liverpool's playing ability?

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Bk from a bit of grafting for xmas,erm wtf is this post about?
frankiescouser.

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This is a very curious post... would either of you care to divulge?

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{Ed033's Note - It's just a joke

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A man is never more serious than when he is joking.

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Jonjo Shelveys good at magic, he almost beat harry potter last summer!
LP

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