Conspiracy Talk Archive November 30 2011

 

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30 Nov 2011 09:59:04
what do you think of the theory that they used hologram teqhnology at 9/11-no planes?

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This isn't star trek you know. Apart from the fact holograms aren't possible now, let alone 10 years ago, but you would need two ports and one in the sky woudnt be possible

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Look close at the videos on youtube obvious they were not planes that crashed into the towers.

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Holograms are possible now mate.

JWalk

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Correct me if i am wrong but you are saying that they using a non existant trick of the light to crash into 2 tower blocks and collapse them? Ignoring the 100's of witnesses that clerly saw a plane fly into the towers?

I don't believe that we know the full story of that day and agree that some very dodgy things happened but this is one of the more dafter things i have heard. {Ed001's Note - I think the theory is that they used to explosives to collapse them (which they pretty much would have to have done anyway, even if planes had crashed into it), rather than a trick of the light. The trick of the light is allegedly just to fool the eye into believing it was caused by a plane. I am with you though, it is not a theory that makes sense to me at all.}

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It would be hard to pull off convincingly today, never mind a decade ago.

I egt the idea, but no i don't think it happened like that.

Its called terrorism no matter who did it, and nothing is so terrifying as flying a jumbo in a tower. Even if they had to give it some assistance to come down.

{Ed033's Note - Here is possibly some of the best evidence of no planes on 9/11 at the twin towers

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=9&part=3

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=1
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=2
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=10&part=3

www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=25&part=2

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{Ed033's Note - I always had a problem with the plane especially the wings "melting" into the building. The wings should have fallen off at least as the wings could not have sliced through the steel in the building and the plane should not have totally entered the building. This means if you watch the above video interviews with evidence, you may come to the conclusion that the american news media added the planes in as computer graphics.}

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Ed is there any videos about the passengers who supposedly died on the planes being fake or made up, thats the only stumbling block ive ever had with the no plane theories, cheers

{Ed033's Note - I don't remember any videos talking about the twin tower planes' passengers but allegedly only a fraction of the families of the people who allegedly died on the planes ever claimed for compensation. Normally a much larger percentage of the families of people who die in plane crashes claim the compensation on offer, which is 1 anomaly. An anomaly that could be explained that if no one died in those planes that's why virtually none of the families claimed the compensation.

No planes hitting the towers could explain why no "black boxes" were found and why the alleged planes made manoeuvres that some pilots say are impossible and impossible at that low altitude. Also no hijacked planes also explains why there were no "Arab" names on the official flight lists and explains why some of the alleged hijackers are allegedly still alive. The no plane theory explains a lot.}

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But wasn't there 'amateur' footage from people on the ground, of the first plane hitting the tower?

Adam {Ed001's Note - I think that is the whole point of the hologram theory, to provide that footage.}

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I have to disagree with the above posts about it not been a plane , i was in newyork at the time and although i did not see the impact i was close enough to hear the plane in the sky and the sound of the impact . I can say 100% it did not sound orcastrated and if you were there like i was it would scare the life from you .

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I think sometimes this conspiracy stuff does go a bit far. None of us are scientists - you can't say 'the wings would have done this or that' - yes there's some steel but it's being hit by the full force of a flying jet and the buildings are mostly glass! You could just as easily say that the sheer momentum of the flight would mean that even if the wings snapped off they would still more than likely end up in the building rather than falling to the ground outside.

But I do feel that all this chat about graphics and holograms in nonsense. Planes crashed, people died. The questions that need answering are: who is responsible (which we think we know) and were explosives used to bring the buildings down (yes)?

Holograms?! No Planes? Have a SHRED of respect for the people that died on the planes and when they hit the buildings.

Raz

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The amateur clips and pro clips are irrelevant, the few there is could be very easily edited, no one knows the exact origins of them, very sketchy, also a very high percentage of the eye witnesses are directly connected to the media. Ive seen them videos before ed, to anyone who hasnt they well worth a watch (aside from the terrible set haha), the 'dustification' of the metal in seconds is crazy aswel, some mad stuff going on,

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No one has said it was holograms it was merely thrown up for discussion, people need to stop jumping to conclusions and on the defensive.

JWalk

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I have to agree with Raz, people are too quick to advance various theories either sensible or not but it sometimwes feels as if the victims are a little overlooked. Nothing wrong with wanting the truth or anything but think of the victims.

As for people not claiming compensation, well maybe they didn't want it, just because you are entitled to it doesn't mean you have to have it. Its not like the money would do them any good after all. What price do you put on a life. {Ed001's Note - what if there were no victims? You are suggesting no one should ask questions just in case someone is a victim, but surely any victim's family would want the truth to be out there? There are a huge number of things that don't add up with regards to 9/11, questions need to be asked. How do you stop these things happening again if you don't get the truth about the event? I would say it would be more disrespectful to not try and find out the truth than it is to ask questions.}

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Ed001 i think you are putting words in my mouth there.

I never said we shouldn't ask questions, i said nothing wrong with wanting the truth. I agree we do not know everything that happened that day. I'm just saying that there are too many people all with their own pet theory, some more daft than the next too busy trying to prove that there's some dark conspiracy going on and that they don't stop to think about what they are saying. How would you feel if it was your relatives, and you were looking online to see what you could uncover and you saw posts saying stuff like o there were no victimes. Thats all i'm saying, just that sometimes it feels like those that actually did die get overlooked. Not that we shouldn't ask questions maybe just have a bit more sensitivity.

And your saying what if there were no victims. well planes or no planes there were still people in the towers, or was the footage of people jumping faked as well?

Thats all i'm saying, not that we shouldn't ask questions, but that we should consider how we ask questions.

Are the right questions being asked? I think that the search for truth is getting bogged down in the wrong area's. If there was a conspiracy then the conspirators have managed to divert people off in the wrong directions. {Ed001's Note - I never put words into your mouth, I was merely putting forward reasons for people to postulate theories.}

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Fair enough Ed. I've no problems with people putting forward theories. Just with the sensitivity. {Ed001's Note - unfortunately it is a sensitive area, someone always gets offended these days regardless. A lot of people seem to look for reasons to be offended by anything they can find.}

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Let me ask a very stupid uneducated question, what the hell happened if people are saying planes were not involved. for whats its worth i think planes were involved

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A very well (not perfectly) executed plan, explosives, pre-prepared towers, doctored video clips, massive cover up, easy scapegoats, over 90% of the eye witnesses worked on/for t.v, the apparent filmer of the only decent amateur footage is not aloud to disclose any information at all etc, where it was shot, i suggest you wath the videos the editor linked it cant be told if your serious

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All this business about the twin towers is rubbish !! In a conspiracy so ridiculous there would be dozens and dozens of people 'in on it' and things would start to seep out very soon after the event.
Unless of course all those 'in on it' were bumped off to ensure silence. Then of course those bumper-offers would need
to be bumped off too and then....I think you can finish this for me

Some of you have got to start getting out more

Puzzled

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Wow all of that sounds a little extreme and would be very hard to put together let alone manage afterwards.

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So what do you think happened puzzled?

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I think some brainwashed nutters hijacked planes and flew them into the twin towers..simples

Puzzled

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Puzzled, I guess they have you brainwashed as loads has seeped out that 911 was anything but brainwashed nutters hijacking planes. Also only a few people creating the fake computer graphic planes in the video editing room need to know the 911 twin towers planes are faked

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{Ed033's Note - All you have to do is look at the plane going into the second tower at slow video speed to see that it is a fake plane on 9/11. The plane doesn't even have any markings on it. Look at the above videos.}

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And 'another few' people who set the explosives or whatever the latest theory
is....stuff happens...not everything is a
conspiracy. Some people seem never to have got over the trauma of being told there was no father christmas
Puzzled

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How about rounding up the top 10 animators, grpahic designers or whatever and ask them what projects they had on that year.

{Ed033's Note - What was done with the alleged faking of the planes on 9/11 was not done by top animators otherwise the planes would have looked exactly like they should have i.e American Airlines planes with windows and correct colours. If you have seen the above video evidence, you may come to the realisation that this was done quickly within the video editing offices of 1 or more news media corporations. The video graphic planes look to be plain 3D plane graphics with no windows and no markings and one colour.}

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Ah usual cheap bodge job then, not very smart of them.

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Ah usual cheap bodge job then, not very smart of them.

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30 Nov 2011 05:32:09
Chetan Bhagat is poor mans Salman Rushdie and elitists dont want him to succeed!

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Sorry but who is he?

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Biggest selling english writer from India- new york times and he trends a lot on twitter.

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He says negative stuff about the so called elite but dont know the reason why

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