Conspiracy Talk Archive October 30 2013

 

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30 Oct 2013 21:41:59
got to get this off my chest, a guy that I like and I thinks talks a hell of a lot of sense (russell brand) is getting panned by people who think he is a fraud and a plant they people who think this have have been the same principles as me but we disagree on this infact the same guy in the past thought I was some type of mole (mi5 monitoring their website according to acquaintance)anyway the paranoia setting in about who I think are good people is going way over the top to the extent that because this site has a disclaimer for not taking things too seriously that powerful subjects were not took to seriously and this was a zionist site, no doubt I put him straight am still a bit p----d of about it to be honest, soz guys had to get that off my chest.

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Hmm just read back my last post and it does not make any sense to me never mind anyone else, I will try to explain it better.

a guy on a different website who I think has good intentions is basically suspicious of everyone in the media and normal people and sites, his site according to him is being monitored, I won't go into too much detail but he is convinced.

the thing that gets me mad is when he accuses other people and sites as being shills (had to google shill)now to my main point about russell brand just because he has a few bob and is famous he is treated as suspicious seeking more publicity which I think is a load of ****.

to me the more famous the better if they have the right motives, I am no david beckham lover but I would be his biggest supporter if he had the same beliefs as brand and made it public but that is not going to happen.

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I myself think Russell brand is a complete fraud, a very intelligent guy, no question. but his whole persona is a carefully constructed act, part Kenneth Williams part God knows who, can't do with millionaires preaching about how the poor people are being treated, just my opinion, generally agree with you on most things frankly, but not brand

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Mate everyone has different opinions and its good to debate, a few times a regular or one of the edds has changed my opinion with facts or a alternative point of view and rethought my opinion, not often like ha (joke) in my opinion brand does not preach he gets asked by the media, as for his fame and wealth well he has been on question time a few times and he made the point the corporations and people of a certain wealth should pay the bulk of the taxes and people like him, also remember he was never brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth, good call about the kenneth williams thou ha.

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31 Oct 2013 11:15:02
I admire his confidence whilst wondering where exactly it comes from, I have no invested belief in him though I agree entirely with what he said in the Paxman interview (as did Paxman), some will call him schill, others saviour - It's inevitable people will be divided over him, personally i'd rather scratch my eyes out than debate over his credentials; and in my opinion what we have here is a wonderful p. o. e. (point of entry) for people who have yet to wake up, or are just beginning to. Misguided or not it's irrelevant; we are so screwed anyway that it doesn't matter. The sooner people realise there is no Saviour, that to surrender one's own unit of power to another is foolish, and that they themselves carry the responsibility of the world, the better, and if RB sets them off in this direction, then good.

I'd like to add it's no great feat to know you're being monitored when we have been publicly, openly told that we are being monitored. pea

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Katy Perry is allegedly MK Ultra mind controlled. Brand is now involved with Jemima Goldsmith, nuff said.

MrTrotskysGhost

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Love this site but some people are over paranoid, brand has in his entire career been out spoken about his belief and opinions, this was another example of him being in a position that he has been asked his opinion on certain subjects and has given it, hasn't diluted it or changed it from earlier quotes just spoke his honest opinion, I wonder if the people doubting him are actually aware of his past /career or are making a opinion on one interview, either way I find it very sad that when a person of his magnitude speaks out against the system in place and is met with such negativity, oh and now Katy perry is under mind control as well so he must be, I think a lot of people need to reavaluate there ability to sense a patsy of some kind

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Russell Brand has always harboured sensationalist and extreme views; particularly in respect of how mainstream media distributes information. this recent interview is nothing new.

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I am not being paranoid, just cynical. Brand has made a career of being 'outspoken', he comes up with sensationalist and 'revolutionary' statements every time he has something to sell. He is pictured in the following link, sharing a freemasonic handshake with the woman in the million pound hat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-499529/Russell-Brand-meets-Queen-making-risqu-jokes-granddaughter-Zara.html

As for Katy Perry, the music industry is said to be rife with mind controlled stars

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=51292

As for Brand I believe he is the modern version of Ben Elton, at best a champagne socialist, at worst a self obsessed money grubber.

MrTrotskysGhost

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Personally I really enjoyed his interview with Paxman but one thing that instantly struck me as strange was that his anti-politics views were allowed to be broadcast on that show and even painted him in a positive light IMO. Paxman did seem to try to give it to him but he batted him off every time, I just found it strange that the BBC allowed such an anti-establishment message to be put out without trying harder to ridicule it.

Perhaps I'm thinking about it too much.

HB

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Right at this time the relationship between the bbc and the government is strained to say the least, the bbc have finances cut by the tories and have been told to" make do" maybe they have cut funding to distance themselves from the savile scandal and in turn maybe letting brand get his point across was having a dig back at the tories, who knows?
i do not like paxman particularly but brand was right and said you have been tearing strips of politicians for years because you know they are chatting **** (my interpretation)

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OK so Katy perry is mind controlled and brand is a free mason with a agenda, get a grip and try taking things for what they are instead of making a conspiracy why out if everything, he is a man with a opinion which he said as he always has nothing new, nothing strange, no child sacrifice, no nwo , as for self promotion for current projects, he has had projects underway in one form or another for ten years, every time somebody like Jesse Ventura manages to get on a mainstream channel and share their opinion do you cry, CIA agent, nwo shill, get a grip

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@ Anon
I never said Perry was mind controlled, I said that it is alleged she is, I gave a link in case anyone was interested. I myself believe it is a possibility. MK Ultra and Monarch Mind Control are pretty much proven to exist.

I never said Brand was a freemason I just said that he shared a freemasonic handshake with the queen. The point I was making is that I think Brand is a hypocrite. He spouts on about a republic and the redistribution of wealth on one hand and shakes the queen's with the other.

Haven't seen much of Jesse tbh but what I have seen has been done far better by other people.

Forgot to add in my second post on the subject:
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/royal-wedding-goldsmiths.html

MrTrotskysGhost

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Russel Brand is dating Jemima khan (goldsmith) who's brother is a Tory mp and married to a Rothchilds daughter (see a pattern forming) if he can convince people not to vote then it's a win for the Tory party as they stay in power.

Russell is a prop, his career was ruined down to the Andrew Sachs fiasco and was no doubt offered to sell his soul for a rejuvenated career.

Roscojef

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There's lots of outspoken Celebs just like Brand clever people too yous should look out for people like Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Lupe Fiasco, Corey Feldman I can't remember the rest at this time in the morning but it's a long list.

Rise & Shine

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Dave chappelle I know off. He was silenced at the time Obama was running for presidency.

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Anyone seen russell brand's number 33 tattoo on his wrist?

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I think Russell brand is nothing but a wee spoilt brat, who wants his own way then chucks the rattle out the pram when he doesn't, not a genius just a person

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30 Oct 2013 15:35:22
Anybody saw the latest maddie mcCann story? Apparently she was kidnapped by an ex employee of the hotel who the police didn't know about because he had been sacked shortly b4 she went missing. This guy has since died, any1 else think is kind of convenient to blame the dead guy?

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Smoking mirrors, the portuguese detective who the mccanns are now suing for a million pounds (to help find maddie of course) maintains that they know more than they are admitting, for the record he thinks the child died of a accident and maybe they have panicked about leaving there kids alone and got rid of the body, the detective suspicions grew more when kate mccann was alone from jerry and broke down and said something like "i have seen maddie in a dream and she is buried on a hill" or something like that,

the top and tail of it is they spend more time going to court suing people who question there events than actually looking for the kid, the mccanns have put a injunction which was a bestseller in portugal on the detectives book.

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Utter garbage! The mirror wrote that the suspect done this to prove security was questionable. What a coincidence that he would have a opportunity as a family would just so happen to leave their kids alone. Blame someone that's dead. Perfect crime for the mccanns

Roscojef

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Where did you hear this latest story? Davie.

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At last, after all this time, they have finally found a 'patsy'.
The report is all over the MSM Davie, they're saying that a disgruntled ex employee "kidnapped Maddie in an act of revenge against his former employees". Utter nonsense IMHO, the police would be better off having a word with Steven Birch and properly investigating his claims.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id413.html

MrTrotskysGhost

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I have just read today that the met have spent £5m on the case so far and this is at a time that they are closing stations and losing front line officers in London, stinks to high heaven.

If this was me or you they would have not spent a penny and reported us to social services for leaving our kids alone.

Jonty

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Well said Jonty, btw Andy Redwood who is leading the 'new' Maddie investigation was also the chief investigating officer of the Jill Dando murder team. So I just thought I'd ask, wasn't Barry George's conviction quashed?
"Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice.

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30 Oct 2013 13:57:09
Had an idea on 9/11 that I'd like to hear your thoughts about.

I'm puzzled as to why the delay between when the first explosions are witnessed and when they were turned to powder. As I haven't been able to get a hold of Judy Wood's book, anyone who has please tell me what she said about it.
As I was thinking about resonant frequencies and sound cannons, I remembered that the time it takes to achieve resonance depends solely on the size of the object. Those towers where quite large so that would fit with the time frame.
This could also explain why the towers never erupted the basin located beneath the towers which some say is there, as once achieving resonant threshold the towers would have turned to dust.
Then I started thinking about what could have happened to the device/devices that were used for achieving resonance. Whether it was a subsonic cannon or a simple linear motor, either way the device would have remained largely intact after the collapse of the towers. This reminded me that people claimed the FBI had found 3 of the 4 black boxes and removed them from the site under cover of darkness. Those could be the devices.
Let me know what you think.
Zari

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It's certainly plausible, Zari thanks for sharing your theory!

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Thanks for taking the time to reply BigRed.
Zari

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31 Oct 2013 11:23:25
I've heard somewhere about '1400 degree hot spots' being recorded in or around the towers up to a week before the 11th. Unfortunately I have no reference (i read this on the net somewhere, apologies but I didn't save it which I regret now) but could this fit into the use of such devices, as a 'charge-up', say? Anyone able to add any info on these '1400 degree hot spots'? Any search I perform just comes up with heat registers of the collapse, which is not the same thing I read the other day. pea

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Here are a few good links re Dr Judy Wood:

http://drjudywood.com/towers/

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T1NbBxDGSkI

MrTrotskysGhost

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{Ed033's Note - The towers were turned to dust because of molecular dissociation. The theory for achieving the molecular dissociation would be that black technology energy beams were 'fired' from space platforms.

In Judy Wood's book, you can see images taken from above where you can see parts of large round holes at ground level, which is at least some evidence that this theory of black technology energy beams being 'fired' from above, into the towers could be true.

In addition, lots of people (way more than has been reported) jumped from the towers for no apparent reason as the few fires had been put out, so they didn't jump because of fire. This leads to the theory the the energy beams were causing people to think they had to jump or they would die (possibly it may have felt like being in a microwave oven?)

I'll have to look that up pea.
Grateful for your inputs guys.
Zari

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29 Oct 2013 23:15:19
i watch a lot of the reality gold tv shows on tv and the dangers they go threw to get it, the thing is there must must be about 4 or 5 shows now and the price of gold is rising, it can mean only one thing paper money is going to be worthless, one thing gets me curious about gold, to me it has to have some hidden use than just looking good and for decoration, has anyone read why it is so valuable?i have read something about aliens need it for some reason but I am still unsure about its use.

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Something to do with protecting their atmosphere on the planets their from, hence why the sudden interest in it, to try and get everyone to sell up. Is it any coincidence that the a Illuminati puppet Gordon Brown sold all our reserves off cheap!

Lone Wolf

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Gold is a great conductor which is why it is used in high quality cables. However, there is talk of peculiar interaction between gold and light under certain conditions, due to its high conductivity in combination with its molecular structure.
Some people advocate ingesting colloidal gold and mono-atomic gold as it supposedly allows your body to hold more charge on a cellular level, amplifying thought manifestation capabilities. Colloidal gold is created by using gold rods in water electrolysis. I am not sure on the method used to produce mono-atomic gold.
Zari

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Cheers guys we I learn something new off this site at least once a week.

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It doesn't rust and can be made into very fine pieces to reflect the suns rays.

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I think monotomic gold only exists for billionths of a second, bit of a technicality. Just sounds like sci fi to me!
Once heard a quote about gold and its usefulness, if we could replicate metals ( a la star trek ) then the cost of copper would be higher than gold as copper has more uses.
Something like that anyway.

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Liono74
I am not sure about monoatomic gold either, as it could be just another money making scheme.
As for matter replicators though, gold would definitely be the most used metal if in abundance. The only reason we use silver and copper in industry right now is because gold is so expensive. All three metals exhibit the same characteristics (conductivity, malleability etc. ) on different scales. However, gold tops both copper and silver on all parameters.
Zari

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Tbh I don't remember exactly why but for some reason there is something unique about copper that meant it would be more expensive (it was quite a few years ago so my memory may be playing its usual tricks!) Actually is platinum a better conductor than gold?
Anyway interesting stuff zari thx.

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No, it's a lot simpler than that. We are in dire times at the moment. a lot of the country is crippled with debts and bills add to the fact they may have lost there jobs. These adverts are just exploiting these weaknesses and getting them to part with there gold in exchange for cash. The price they offer is pathetic as they sell it on for a much larger profit. Again this may be a little far fetched for the majority of posters on here.

AP

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Liono74
I'm intrigued, if it does come back to you please post it on here. Regarding your question, gold is about 5 times more conductive than platinum.

AP
I find Frankys question as absolutely valid. Most of us here understand that there is profit to be made from peoples desperation but why would anybody be buying gold at times like this? Sure it's a descent counter-inflation investment but not if things really change. There are no hard assets anymore, as land can be reclaimed and redistributed, money/gold made irrelevant as negative inflation currencies are introduced and there is zero chance of a gold standard being reintroduced or of gold being the main commodity for barter. Why would then, according to my information, Swiss based corporations be buying the last gold in public hands in mass? Unless they are oblivious enough to think the system will be the same after the coming evolution, it makes no sense.
Zari

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31 Oct 2013 11:32:13
As a keen student of your postings, AP, let me see if i've got it right - everything is just exactly how it seems; correct? pea

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