Conspiracy Talk Archive April 03 2012


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03 Apr 2012 19:41:08
Do you think it is right for the goverment to have instant access to your phone call, GPS location, internet ect.

If Im thinking about it. its creepy.

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It is definitly not right but could and it might already be happening

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This has openly been used for many of years! If the Scum on Sunday can be closed down for using such technologies then imagine what technology the government have!


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I think one reason alone is so the government can sell details and information to big companies regarding behaviour etc.


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03 Apr 2012 19:37:01
THE AUTHORITARIAN UK Government wants access to all emails, text messages and internet use and will propose sweeping snooping powers in legislation to give it that soon.

The bill will be announced during the Queen's speech and will give crime busting agencies like GCHQ, the government's central intelligence *cough* spying agency, MI5, the police and who knows else access to all of the emails, text messages and internet histories of everyone in the UK.

The Home Office claims that the legislation is necessary to "obtain communications data in certain circumstances to investigate serious crime and terrorism and to protect the public."

"We need to take action to maintain the continued availability of communications data as technology changes," said a spokesperson.

Accessible data will include the "time, duration and dialling numbers of a phone call, or an email address, but not the content of the phone call or email," it added. The spokesman said that the Government does not plan to make changes to the existing legal basis for the interception of communications.

"As set out in the Strategic Defence and Security Review we will legislate as soon as parliamentary time allows to ensure that the use of communications data is compatible with the Government's approach to civil liberties," it said.

Big Brother Watch, a civil liberties organisation, has already condemned the proposals and sniffed at their timing,

"This is an unprecedented step that will see Britain adopt the same kind of surveillance seen in China and Iran. This is an absolute attack on privacy online and it is far from clear this will actually improve public safety, while adding significant costs to internet businesses," said Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

He asked, "If this was such a serious security issue why has the Home Office not ensured these powers were in place before the Olympics?"

The Pirate Party is also concerned about the powers, which it said would lead to more insecurity.

"This story looked for all the world like an April Fool's joke: Labour's plan for a massive surveillance programme that would dwarf anything dreamed up by the KGB, brought back to life by its opponents?," said Andrew Robinson, the founder of the Pirate Party UK.

Robinson said that the powers would be circumvented by those that the government would seek to detect, while opening up everyone else to unnecessary inspection.

"We're bound to hear the sinister justification that 'if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear'. Well, the exact opposite is true in this case. If you do have something to hide, it's inevitably going to be trivially easy to avoid this surveillance system, through privacy systems like Tor, or simply by using foreign web servers," he added.

"If you're just an honest member of the public you have to fear not just the phenomenal multi-billion pound cost of the system, or the massive logistical and economic burdens that UK companies will have to cope with, but something far worse: The absolute certainty of leaks."

This is the sort of thing that came up during the riots last year, when intrusive police access to Twitter and Blackberry's BBM messaging tool was considered but not implemented.

Source: The Inquirer

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Having working in cyprus and being paid by GCHQ, i can tell you now that the government already do this. Any phone call, txt or email that is sent containing certain keywords or phrases is automaticaly stored and looked at by analysts. The government say this new system will help prevent crime and terrorism, however the days of these types of people communicating by email and phone are long gone, these days terrorists create email address with both partys knowing the password, they type there msg in and save it as a draft, the other guy then logs on reads it and deletes it, no record of this can every be saved, also, as mentioned in the local press recently they are using online systems such as Call of duty to speak freely to each other without having to worry about being monitored, all in all the new system just sounds a complete waste of time and money!

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03 Apr 2012 12:28:27
Ed i posted something regarding the Star Gate this morning and nothing showing was wondering if i'd mentioned something inappropriate or just not been posted....Thanks in advance know you guys are always busy!

RR! {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it come through mate, I really don't know what has happened to it. I am guessing it was some kind of blip, perhaps a symbol before your post that confused the html? Or you included http:// which will mean the spam filter will just remove the post before it reaches us?}

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No worries Ed and heres me thinking the government are reading my posts and intercepting them! haha :) ill post it again thanks for the response ed much appreciated!

RR! {Ed001's Note - maybe they are.....}

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Re {Ed001's note}, they most deffinetly are !!

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