Conspiracy Talk Archive September 04 2013

 

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04 Sep 2013 22:37:06
more on the 9/11 hologram theory, check it out guys plus look out for a clip of the lone wolf, the three odd guys of the x files, a friend of mulder.

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Excellent vid Franky. Hadn't seen that one before.

Ryan.

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What shoots down the side of the screen on 29:24/25

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There was supposedly a ufo at that time, I will try to dig it out tonight, it could have been debri or a ufo.

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Cheers for the video link franky.
Zari

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Just found another angle of the object as I think its definitely not debri.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5DcXJmNysw

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Think your right Franky there is no way that is debri traveling way to fast and covers to much distance.

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Here's another one Franky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyyWyOilqJQ

Ryan.

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Good spot ryan two things stand out for me watching this, at around 15 seconds the guy who is talking, well his left eye looks strange for a couple of seconds, lizard like, could be be a hoax, anyway back to the wtc clip it seems the plane and the ufo are in sync, I am going to throw a few theories!
1 the ufo is projecting a hologram.
2 the ufo is steering a real plane.

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{Ed033's Note - how about, 3. what actually hit the tower was a missile and something was projecting a hologram around the missile to make it look like a grey coloured plane

Agreed edd to be honest I do not think anything steered a real plane in the wtc as the plane looks fake, the ufo is definitely in sync with the projected airplane.

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I wonder if the strange missile shaped object under the plane is really the missile, and the ufo as Franky suggests has a hologram of a plane wrapped around it. That would explain why the plane disappears instantly on impact.

The reason I am leaning towards a hologram is because on some footage
we are shown the nose of the plane is coming through the other side of the building intact, which is not possible. Also the ufo seems to slow or even stop for a second as the plane enters the building, and then take off at great speed.

I'm still shocked by what those school kids were saying while Bush sat there staring into space like a Manchurian candidate.

Ryan.

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06 Sep 2013 11:25:57
A Manchurian Candidate indeed, but not like the movie; in this instance (and yet again with obama) it is a president being trained to kill the people - not the other way around. pea

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This shows the nose [of the alleged plane] coming out the other side of the tower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nse0fOgTjT8

Ryan.

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All very interesting lads but to play devils advocate, what happened to original plane?

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Anyone any taughts as to what happened the real planes and people that were supposedly to be on them.

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They got destroyed over the sea mate?
SUPERJOHN71

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{Ed033's Note -
If you're interested in 9/11, instead of asking about the "original plane", you have to do 1 of 2 things.
Either read Dr. Judy Wood's book 'Where did the towers go' or
go to http://richplanet.net/starship.php and watch all the Andrew Johnson and Dr. Judy Wood video interviews about 9/11

Regarding the 'original plane', it's all speculation at this time, but normally when there are deaths from a plane crash, a high percentage of the relatives claim compensation. Allegedly, only about 1% of the relatives claimed on 9/11. This could mean that there were hardly any deaths of people on the planes. So this could mean that:

1.) The original plane flight was cancelled but they still invited relatives of people who may have been on the plane to claim compensation for any deaths and the passengers on the original flight were moved to another flight

2.) The original plane was redirected to an airforce base and either everyone was placed on another flight or everyone was killed and the families felt threatened because of some reason, so didn't claim.

This is interesting on what could have happened.

http://rense.com/general69/strange.htm

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It really bugs me when these videos show clips from hollywood films with 9-11 on clocks, dates and other things, as if they knew what was going to happen.

What about the thousands upon thousands of other films that show different numbers and dates where nothing happened on those days.

Tom

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07 Sep 2013 11:57:45
But there's nothing for nothing, Tom. I understand your frustration, but there is not much (if anything) that makes it onto a shot in a movie which hasn't been deliberately placed there. If you can see something on the screen in a movie, then there is every chance it's because somebody wants you to see it. pea

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Have a look for the passenger manifest for all four aircraft on 911. Also have a look for Cleveland Airport. You might also want to check out decades old photo evidence of the so called crater in Shanksville.
Look at the photo of the Pentagon taken before the wall collapsed. I realise the hologram theory is difficult to believe. But whatever hit the second tower wasn't a commercial airliner. Watch September Clues and see how even on the day itself, the footage of the so called aircraft approaching varied considerably depending on what TV channel you were watching.

One thing I'm certain about is that the official story is a complete and utter lie.

Here's some links that may be of interest.

http://www.911myths.com/indexold.html

http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight77Passengers.shtml

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

http://www.ae911truth.org/

http://www.septemberclues.info/

Ryan.

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According to Mayan calendar keepers, the numbers 9 and 11 mean patience and resolution, respectively. That could be interpreted as delaying people from putting things in perspective/seeing the truth.
Zari

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John Lear project Camelot interview touches on the hologram theory

Bernside

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08 Sep 2013 16:11:48
Bear with me on this. In one of my favourite books the stand by Stephen King a group of characters have a discussion on the supernatural including work done by a professor into plane and rail accidents with the conclusion that full planes and trains rarely crash as some peoples sixth sense kicks in and they avoid the flight. I'll look it up later. Secondly in the TV show Sherlock, Mycroft Holmes tries to foil a terrorist plot by filling an airliner with people who had already died from natural causes. He called it his solution to the Coventry conundrum, plane still would be destroyed, terrorists get their victory and spies i'd was protected. Could something similar have happened here? Is this why families didn't claim compo? They knew how their relation really died and it wasn't on that plane, and they already had hush money? Or do I have an over active imagination? Mort

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I think any kind of hush money would be to risky, I think they were murdered one way or another, how is anyone's guess.

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04 Sep 2013 22:24:57
I recommend some people look up Clive Palmers interview on the today show this morning. He is a mining magnate, a billionaire and is running for PM in Australia.

He just went on national television speaking about Murdochs agenda, media brainwashing and how Murdochs wife was selling secrets to China for years. He was made to look like a crazy person, but for once, a national audience can start thinking about what is really going on. Very refreshing!

Melbourne CFC

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Nice one melbourne will check it out, nice to see you on here again mate.

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Always checking in on the site Frankie, just still in the infant stage of truly understanding most of the stuff on here, so rather than put my foot in my mouth, I generally just read through other posts.

That and I always stay away during the transfer window. Glad the sites can return to normality for a couple months

Melbourne CFC

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Mate I think we are all trying to understand what's going on and I have learned so much off the edds and other posters as well.

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Just watched his interview and he does talk a lot of sense, australia at this time seems a lot like the uk, you have to political parties bitching against each other but in reality they are very similar and nothing really changes apart from the normal people lose a few more pounds/dollars each year and this guy is a alternative, my question would be why now?has he made enough money and wants what's best for the people? call me a cynic but say richard branson wanted to run for prime minister I would think what is in it for him?but if I had the choice I would probably go for change! it proves one thing thou you need money or be backed by money to run any country, good shout mate, keep everyone informed on who he gets on.

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04 Sep 2013 22:09:12
Now I'm in no way into reality tv shows etc but on xfactor the other night one of the contestants who is now tipped to win it was wearing pyramids with a all seeing eye on top earrings. Now one of the favourites to win celeb big brother is always wearing all seeing eye rings and bracelets.

All too much of a coincidence for me if they do eventually win

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The controllers have been trying to turn the Illuminati into a fad for a while now. They've already created a good Illuminati / bad Illuminati paradigm. They use dualities, veiled in mystery to draw people in vicious circles and while we chase our tales, they move forward with their schemes. Light is not born of shadows, shadows are born of light.
Zari

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05 Sep 2013 21:54:04
I noticed the earrings too. So much I put a cheeky tenner on her to win.

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04 Sep 2013 14:06:15
will be interesting to see the george galloway move "the killing of tony blair " it is pledge funded.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/22595538/the-killing-of-tony-blair

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What's that about Franky? What's everyone's thoughts on Galloway. I personally can't stand him I think he's a bigot & an embarrassment to Scotland. i'm sure he'll think the same of me as I'm a Rangers Fan.

Rise & Shine

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Its going to be about tony blair selling out labour and personally gained from the middle east wars when he was in charge, to be honest that's all I know that is why I am really interested, as for galloway anyone who faces the us congress and basically tells them stuff they do not like, well I admire him for that, he is a bit like alex jones in a sense you either love or hate him.

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Not as much as a money grabber as Alex though.

GBI

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One might like the limelight and one might want to sell products to earn money but give me them over the majority of people in parliament and capital hill.

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04 Sep 2013 11:03:58
wanted to get some of you regular posters opinions, more so on the sky visions and comments I read on here a while ago about some sort of technology that they culd use to project a hologram onto the sky

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9/11 aeroplanes were rumoured to be a hologram.

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04 Sep 2013 14:40:52
The most recent handle for the use of holography you are asking about has been, I think, Project Bluebeam. There is extensive information on this all over the web. It has been linked to UFO sightings, religious imagery in the sky, chemtrails, and even the events at Fatima. My opinion on it is that it is both a very real, and very old, science. pea

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Ive heard many 911 theories over the years, but the hologram plane theory is rubbish imo. i'm not saying that the planes that crashed were the ones we were told had crashed. There were far to many observers all over new york that day who saw what happened with their own eyes. If even 1 had seen anything suspicious we would have heard about it. Plus the impacts allegedly registered on the torsion seismographs that are dotted all over america light wouldn't do that. I do believe the americans were responsible and I do believe actual planes struck the building, I don't believe that was enough to make the buildings collapse and controlled demolitions were used to bring the towers ( and building 7 ) to the ground. I watched some youtube videos about the hologram theory and felt it was a misdirection. I try to question everything conspiracy wise and hate to see folk being distracted by counter rumours.
On the subject of the building 7 theories, the guy that said live on tv that a decision to "pull the building" was made after the second tower came down is were we should look for answers.
All just my opinion of course as we will never know what really happened.
Liono74

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{Ed033's Note - You definitely should read, 'Where did the Towers go' by Judy Wood PHd. By what you're saying, you only know 5% of the 9/11 evidence.

I'll give it a go ed cheers. Just sick of the spin and b. s. like I said I always question everything! Keep up the good work mate!
Liono74

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September Clues also worth watching Liono.

Ryan.

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An excellent presentation by Dr Judy Wood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NbBxDGSkI

MrTrotskysGhost

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