Conspiracy Talk Archive February 08 2013

 

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08 Feb 2013 21:53:23
{Ed033's Note - About The New Digital Utility Meters

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08 Feb 2013 18:22:14
Ed what do you make of this horse meat scandal? Talk now of foul play. {Ed001's Note - I haven't really thought much about it to be honest. Horsemeat is eaten on the continent, so it could easily have been just the company trying to increase its profit margins, with it being much cheaper than beef.}

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And chances are the horse meat is far safer than beef. Have never heard of mad horse disease. Maybe now we can know what happened to Shergar. {Ed001's Note - horse meat is not safer, unless the horses have been bred for food. There are different drugs used by vets to treat food animals to others, due to danger of getting certain drugs into human bloodstreams. I used to rent a cottage on a farm that bred horses for showjumping, I was talking to the couple who owned it one day about eating horse meat. She was explaining about a drug they use to treat their horses sometimes, called bute, which is not allowed in food products. So it is not safer, necessarily.}

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09 Feb 2013 11:06:44
When was the last time something GOOD for us ended up in food by accident? pea

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09 Feb 2013 13:31:09
Agreed Ed they've had send batches off to specialist testing places to see if any contain this bute drug. Apparently too much of it can be quite nasty for people. I've no problems with eating horse, i've had it in France and it was the best steak i've ever had, much leaner than beef. But if your going to start putting it in food then label it rather than claiming your products 100% beef when its less than half. At least give people the choice. More to the point if we don't know about horse in beef products what else don't we know about? {Ed001's Note - that is the big worry, what else are they putting in food that we haven't found out about?}

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It is potentially dangerous as medicinal substances stay present in equids for a much longer time than other food producing animals. The recommended meat and produce withdrawal time for a cow following treatment is 7 days however for an equid it is 6 months for most products. Bute is short for phenylbutazone which is a non steroid based anti inflammatory. These products can be dangerous as they increase risk of bleeding and have various cardiovascular and gastrointestinal side effects, one such is aplastic anaemia. If these companies were found to be using horses who had been administered bute at any time, they could likely be looking at prison time.

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People are complaining about eating horse meat burgers but if they didn't feed their kids rubbish like tesco burgers and frozen lasagne then they wouldn't have eaten it!
LP

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09 Feb 2013 15:45:07
I must admit I agree with lp a bit. I buy burgers and sausages from my local butcher using locally sourced produce. Not cheap supermarket cack with god knows what in there.

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When consumers demand cheaper and cheaper food this is what happens, it's not right however if you buy cheap it's going to be crap.

Takes a few mins to make your own burgers from minced steak leave them all day in the fridge and you have the best burgers, yes it costs more but at least you know what's in it, don't even get me started on reclaimed meat etc, we are all educated people and it's easy to source fresh food or make it yourself, society is too lazy these days.

Rant over : -)

Jonty {Ed001's Note - and how do you know the minced steak is not minced horse meat? It is nothing to do with laziness, it is all to do with companies being untrustworthy.}

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It's all about the profits, I worked in sayers on a youth training scheme years ago and the stuff that went on in there was an eye opener, put it this way, I have to this day, not eaten anything from sayers.

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And now I don't think I'll ever eat at Sayers either, thanks Franky
LP

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Ed if you go to the butcher he will even tell you which farm the beef steak used in the mince has come from, the problem is with processed food it's beggars belief that we have such a sophisticated tracing system for joints etc. however it's been 10 years since anyone has tested the processed stuff.

Jonty

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I'd also suggest to avoid any pre packed sandwiches, I know people who have worked in those places and trust me you don't wanna know. All i'll say is avoid anything with Prawns, mayo and cheese in.

Mort

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08 Feb 2013 12:14:17
Hey guys!

I've just purchased myself the Samsung galaxy note 2, after having an iphone for 3-4 years. Not only did I realize how I don't know, after usinh Apple products for so long, but when I attempted to download an application from the Google Play store, I was absolutely amazed at how many 'Permissions' the companies that own/make the software are entitled to, obviously they vary, depending on what app you download. I mean, I'm not sure if it is like that with Apple and iTunes and I just never knew, which wouldn't surprise me, but wow, it just really blew me away how much our privacy is invaded. Give I t another five years and everything we do will somehow be monitored. Already, Facebook has given everyone a head start with facial recognition and tagging. Even Melbourne, Australia, where I'm from has a public transport ticketing system that monitors everywhere we travel, where we top up etc. It's quite fascinating and somewhat scary how every little thing we do can somehow be traced. Thanks "ed's" for the good work.


Qwertytrewq

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True feller very true.

frankyscouse

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It's the very same with Apple products keyboard. To use the Fox phrase, some would say it is even more intrusive with Apple as you have to give credit card details to enable downloading from their site.

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Qwertytrewq I am certain that they have been monitoring us since the mobile phone came out its a device that you always bring with you so they'd know exactly where you are at any given time

Heskeyfenwa {Ed001's Note - me mam used to work for Orange, and when my parents were burgled, they knew exactly what address her phone was in. Even though it was a block of flats, they knew which one, and that was with the SIM changed. That was years ago as well, before the smartphone era. There are numerous programs out there to allow access to a phone's mic and/or camera from another phone or computer. I am sure there must be unscrupulous people using those programs to monitor targets for all sorts of reasons. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if journalists, for instance, use them to spy on 'celebs'.}

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07 Feb 2013 23:23:24
any1 see howto build a bionic man?even thou the British scientist looked a bit clumsy the military prototypes in the usa looked friggin scary the movement of them was unreal, this stuff was done ten years ago but was made public now imagine what is being created by the military now?terminator springs to mind.

frankyscouse

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They'll be back?

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My friend was telling me that scientists can store sometling like 50 terabytes on a single strand of DNA! I woundn't be surprised if they came up with computer humans or something like in the Matrix where they could download stuff directly into themselves then when this becomes mainstream the people who run the world could probably direcetly control YOU!

Heskeyfenwa

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