Conspiracy Talk Archive January 09 2012

 

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09 Jan 2012 20:08:08
first time poster here been following a long time and generally intrigued just for information where does the devil incarnate that is rupert murdock stand in the scheme of things are the illuminati with him or a separate entity

{Ed033's Note - I would suggest that he's a minion/servant/puppet of theirs.}

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Please tell me, why? Why would powerful and wealthy people like Murdoch and Cameron allow themselves to be a puppet?

Adam {Ed001's Note - how else would they rise to get the power and wealth they have? Murdoch has clearly got extremely wealthy backers providing him with funds to initially start off.}

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I just assumed they were born with silver spoons in their mouths and couples that with lies and back stabbing to get to where they are now!

Adam

{Ed033's Note - Possibly they also haven't grown up mentally

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More to the point you don't get to the top without a few things to hide in the closet so maybe there is some serious dirt on certain people.

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09 Jan 2012 15:05:24
Just want a make a note on conspiracy videos...

While they are incredibly interesting, I would advise that you take these videos with a pinch of salt. These videos are always saying 'don't believe what you see/read in the media' but do not forget that this is also a form of media.

If you are told not to believe main stream media, then why should you assume that everything you see in a conspiracy video is 100% fact? Some videos I have seen are so full of pitiful lies it's desperate and laughable, where as others are very good, these are the ones which are actually worrying.

Cheers, merka.

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Eat the meat and spit out the bones mate.

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Spot on Merka!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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Go with your gut instinct
frankyscouse

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Nobody believes them 100% mate, but it's always good to have an open mind and not fall in line with people (sheeps) who think the world (or government)is fine and everything runs smoothly..

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You'd be surprised mate i've heard people banging on about certain videos like they're gospel

merka

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If that's what they want to believe merka it's up to them, nobody is saying anything is 100% true hence why it's called a theory, but if it has any substance it becomes a possibility..
(im not saying you have) but for people to just dismiss them because it sounds outrageous is just ignorant..

take 9/11 for instance it sounds mad that their own government would blow up their own buildings and kill their own people, but there so much evidence to suggest they did (and didn't) it seems plausible.

like i said if they want to strongly believe these theories let them, it doesn't concern or affect you so why can't they?
nobody has full proof these conspiracies are true nobody has full proof they are false..... it's like religion..

sorry for the long post.

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Have to agree about the let people judge themselves, most people believe darwins theory of evolution an no one utters a word, but it is still only a theory.
There are some amazing theory's out there, it's up to the person which theory they take on board as fact or whatever. Each to their own eh fellas?

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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Well as it says in 'in plane sight', as soon as there is a piece of evidence it is no longer a theory, but a possibility.

merka.

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Agree TS, you judge each thing on its merits.

Its the only thing that annoys me about conspiracy theorists. For example -

My housemate's a big fan of David Icke so I've borrowed a lot of his vids etc. Icke loves to say that people like him are labelled nutjobs, and the masses dismiss them as such. Your average person's worst fear is being labelled an 'outsider' or not 'normal', so they dismiss people like Icke without a second thought.

But when it comes to the more far-out Icke theories, when I dismiss them my hosuemate (and Icke, in a sweeping manner does the same in his talks) - accuses me of being narrow-minded or brainwashed, in good jest but still.

Now, as an open-minded person - it repulses me to be called such a thing, and therefore Icke is using the same control mechanism as the people he despises do with the masses.

Anyone even giving Icke the time of day is likely a fairly open-minded person. They'd hate to be told they weren't 'enlightened' and so the weaker-willed followers of conspiracy theories accept everything they're told as fact without question.

How is that different to the 'brainwashed masses' swallowing eveything the media serves them??

RED_SKY

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09 Jan 2012 13:20:08
what are peoples thoughts on rik clay? do you believe he killed himself or did he know too much and was killed by the powers that be?

{Ed033's Note - Ian R. Crane contacted Rik's family after Rik died and they said that they and his friends were convinced he committed suicide. I heard Ian R. Crane say this on red ice creations radio - www.redicecreations.com

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Maybe they feared for their lives as well ed?

the videos ive seen of him he did seem really clever and he knew what he was talking about.

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Rik Clay was one of the good guys, sad he passed on. I'm not sure myself how he died, but whichever way he did pass, we the people lost a great guy!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Ps. He was an extremely intelligent guy, and if anyone has the time, check out some of his work!

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09 Jan 2012 12:00:06
ed, lets say it's true (not saying it isn't) that the illuminati want to reduce the world population by 90%. how would they do this?, would they fake an alien attack (like the Olympic conspiracy) or would they just "nuke" us? or could they blame it on a super terrorist attack? or maybe even a disease outbreak?

whats your opinion on this?

{Ed033's Note - They are always into ritual and prophesy so you might think they might want to play out their interpretation of Armageddon. Their interpretation of Armageddon maybe a thermo-nuclear strike Russia/China vs USA/European Union followed by famine and pestilence. With the famine caused by haarp type technology used to cause drought/flooding in large food production areas to decimate world food production and the pestilence caused by releasing a death bug (causing black death or something)

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So we're all f'd if this happens basically..

i don't know what to believe anymore after watching all these conspiracy videos lol, it really does open your mind.
my friend is a security guard and will be at the Olympics so i think ill be showing him the Olympics conspiracy videos, he'll probably think im crazy but there is always the possibility of this happening.

{Ed033's Note - This Armageddon ritual that they may want to attempt would not be attempted at the Olympic games but in 2025.}

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Still though ed, id rather show him than not.
cos imagine if it did happen and i didn't warn him...

better to be safe than sorry whatever the chances.

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Ed did you change the second reply? cos im sure it said something about it being a huge IF..? {Ed033's Note - Yes, huge IF. An Olympics false flag attack is a huge IF and the Armageddon ritual that maybe planned later for example in 2025 is also a huge IF.

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K thought so, i know it's a huge IF ed, but it was a huge IF about the wtc, so i wouldn't rule it out.. but if im honest i can't see it happening, too high profile IMO i couldn't see them killing top athletes and members of the royal family who will be attending.

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Bear in mind the worlds population recently passed 7 billion, so thats a heck of a lot of killing to do. I make it roughly 6.3 billion people they need to wipe out.

And your talking of a target date of 2025? So 13 years then? Thats 485 million people a year then. Unless they go for the lot in one go.

Sorry i don't think its that practical.

Natural disasters are too slow though and don't kill enough. A few 1000 or 10000 a time, doesn't even make a dent.

Nuking the world, sure sounds fantastic, would rack up a great score, but bear in mind the nukes are all pointed at Russia, China, North America and Europe. Places like South America and Africa would survive more or less intact and that would wipe our the tech advanced areas where they live, not sure what they're gaining really.

Plague could be a good idea, i'm sure they could cook up something nasty a bit like Stephen Kings The Stand, however you'd need something with a high infection rate and high kill rate, but you'd also need it to leave 10% of the population so could be tricky to engineer.

{Ed033's Note - The 2025 date maybe to halve the population and then reduce from there as and when. I agree it sounds fantastic but I think it is their wet dream but everyone has dreams that don't come true.}

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Agreed Ed, but i'd rather have my ones than theirs, they sound like such frightful people.

I Think its a heck of an undertaking. Germs might be the best bet really.

{Ed033's Note - The 2025 date they have set themselves to get the NWO in place sounds optimistic. THe idea s that once the NWO is in place, they allegedly think they no longer need this level of population.

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Id think a pandemic, war and lack of food is more likely, nobody would get the blame unless they blame terrorists, also could you imagine a world war 3 and then disease outbreak that nobody (but the few who are immune) could survive, and a then a famine?

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Think its massively optimistic. 2125 sounds more reasonable.

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