Conspiracy Talk Archive January 09 2013

 

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09 Jan 2013 20:28:24
So who does everyone think won the Morgan VS Jones debate, if you can even call it that, I thought even though i don't like Morgan he's right that less guns is the answer as opposed to more, for me jones just embarrassed himself in front of millions and I think Morgan destroyed him by asking who caused 9/11 because that will have angered millions of Americans
LP

I think Jones knew exactly what he was doing and i think he is a very intelligent man, to mention the subjects on a prime-time show in the USA like he did that would never get mentioned has got Alex Jones the world wide platform to get these conspiracy out in the mainstream media, tbh i was quite shocked cnn allowed Jones on the show, maybe they thought Morgan would talk down hes opponent in the usual slimy patronizing way but to me it backfired, as for the 9/11 feelings of the american public in new York 70 per cent think there is some sort of cover up and across america its 50/50, well to me Alex Jones wins hands down.

frankyscouse


They both work for the system, don't trust anything in the media. Jones is playing the role of paranoid conspiracy nut. If he was actually dishing dirt, it wouldn't have gone to air. He's right about one thing though, the truth is there in plain sight, it's just a matter of time and effort to find it.


If Jones would have been calm and collected Morgan would have talked over him with hes barbed sly comments plus no matter what Jones would have been accused of a paranoid nut job anyway, i am suspecting Jones knew that and let everyone around the world know who Alex Jones is.

frankyscouse


I really don't like Morgan but if I was looking at it from a neutral point of view I'd have to say Morgan won because to me jones just made himself look stupid
LP


I'm not having all this if he talked calm then piers would have talked over him. Did you see jesse ventura on it? Proof you don't have to scream and shout like Jones did to get your point across to piers...


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Jagreddog


Jaydog answer me this, apart from people like us who come this site would not even heard of Jesse ventura now after the Alex Morgan interview pretty much the whole world will have heard of Jones and heard hes theories, job done in my book.

frankyscouse


Hey lads, I never have disagreed with frankys opinions but I do think that morgan came out better on this one, especially after Jones doing the british accent thingy. I really think Jones should of took his chance at mainstream a bit more strategically. I think neutruls will just push him off as a nutter now.


I have to agree, even as much as I loathe Piers Morgan, Alex Jones made himself look a total person. The mock accent was bordering on insulting and he was obviously ill-equipped to deal with Morgan's questioning as he rudely talked over Morgan constantly and failed to answr questions in a polite manner. I'm slowly thinking Jones is nothing more than an attention seeker who might have a few connections. He uses hiw show to bad-mouth and opinionate and refuses to listen to counter-arguments. He 's lost a lot of credibility in my opinion.
Khakipillowslip


I'm quite sure that the show got the desired effect, staged or not. its still up to people to think for themselves and not act like sheep
sdk


Like or hate Alex Jones he has drawn attention to the mainstream media about subjects that would never get the publicity, pharmaceuticals companies sponsoring cnn even thou prescription drugs are as dangerous as class a drugs and in fact killing more people than illegal drugs, plus he mentioned the 9/11 stuff that we have all heard about, then america/cia selling guns to mexico even thou they have a drugs ban on guns but mexico is one of the most violent countries in the world, Jones knew that he had to get them all out in the interview as much as he can because the interview would get cut short btw which it did there was supposed to be a part 3 of the interview but cnn knew that Morgan could not control Jones and what he was saying, like i said like or hate Jones i admire the feller and would take hes over the top eccentric attitude over a lying rat who was a major player in the phone hacking scandal .

frankyscouse


Frank, yes they have all heard of him, haven't they! I've seen about 5 separate petitions to get HIM deported since that show wheat out. People all round the world are calling him a nut job because all they saw was a crazy man on TV. Just look on twitter and you can gauge what the general US and world Public think of him. He has lost all credibility to the majority.... However I still think he is a reliable man and he knows what he's on about but what I think and what the general public think.... There two very separate things...

Jagreddog


I agree with khakipillowslip and eds why do you keep changing a word to describe someone as stupid to person as I've seen it a few times now?
LP
{Ed033's Note - It's an automated word filter in an attempt to reduce profanity.


If your gauging your opinion on the general public then JFK got shot by lee Harvey Oswald, the gulf war happened because a ruthless dictator had weapons of mass destruction and we are in Afghanistan to drive out the Taliban to make it safe for world peace, these people believe all that the same people tho think Jones is a nut job.

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Because Alex Jones is becoming so popular now, this Morgan interview was almost certainly specifically designed to lower Jones' credibility. Unfortunately it may have worked.


Edd the popularity with Jones own audience would not have dropped in fact i would say it is reinforced, the general public i agree but like i said in my previous post, they are the sheep.

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - yes, I think they don't want new people thinking Alex Jones could be correct about anything


There was a better way of handling that interview, I can understand what Frank is saying get the message out there but I could of told you the questions Morgan was going to ask hours before the show, he is so slimy he is transparent. Jones could of, should handled it better, he is an intelligent man and he could of pushed the neutrals in the right direction. But unfortunately he didn't as I stated above.

Garbo


Garbo good post i know what you mean but are there neutrals on subjects like this? to me there are three types of people,
1 who believe in conspiracy theories
2 people who don't
3 people who want to see bone-fired proof.

frankyscouse


But franky, how can we believe in a conspiracy without proof?!? There always must be proof or ways of explaining it into order to make it believable, surely?

Jagreddog


Jagreddog i will use 1 word Hillsborough, i would say the people from Liverpool knew the truth and people who were at that end from different parts of the country as well, even with the long campaign to get the truth and before the new evidence that was finally brought to light, i reckon maybe 30 to 40 er cent knew the real truth before the families got the new inquiry, maybe that's why i find it hard to trust the establishment .

frankyscouse


Just seen this video,
Personally piers won that everyday of the week.... As much as i dislike the bloke.
He didnt even have to say anything just let that alex jones rant on and embarrass himself and i think that was morgans plan all along... all these conspiracy theories, you can come up with conspiracy theories about anything but until there is solid proof put before you thats all it is a theory, and you look like a nutjob a la alex jones in this interview whose just looking for something that isnt there... also alex jones false information on the uk crime stats and the childish accent ... well didnt help his cause either.... just further helped piers morgan in my eyes.
Ant


Three types of people,
1 who believe in conspiracy theories
2 people who don't
3 people who want to see bone-fired proof.

and ant you fall in to the 3rd option.

frankyscouse


11 Jan 2013 18:53:05
franky its all very well believing in conspiracy theories, thats why we all come on here. But at some point your going to need proof. Take JFK mort people still think it was oswald because most of the proof isn't widely circulated. Look at the stuff thats popped up on this site alone. I agree with you that Jones was just trying to get it out there. Right strategy wrong tactic. He did come across as a bit daft and to most people it looks like a morgan victory. It looks good to the believers. But it won't have woken up many of the "sheep" mort


Mort many of the sheep are the ones that need the proof sometimes you have to look between the lines, for example i know you are very interested in the JFK assassination, to this day there is no concrete evidence but all open minded people can see the discriminates about Oswald being the only shooter and the sheep believe that to this day.

frankyscouse


I thought jones made a show of himself. cringeworthy stuff.


For what it's worth I am a great believer in most things posted on this site how ever I think Jones came across as a complete lunatic and will have set the truth movement back years.
He was a complete disaster .
The only good thing to come out of the interviews was that for a day he was trending on twitter.

Hong Kong phuey


12 Jan 2013 18:02:52
franky you need the right hook to get people interested but all rational people will at some point ask for evidence or proof. Can't fault that. The bigger things eventually have a habit of coming out. Things like JFK and 911 there are too many odd things that make people look further. But you can't just believe in something without something tangible. For example with JFK i'm not expecting a smoking gun or even confessions from those involved. But all the odd incidents only serve to point to the fact that there was a conspiracy. From that you can go on. The best theories have something that makes you sit up and think oh. And thats the only way to wake your "sheep". Isn't that the point? Mort


Mort i agree you need the right hook, even if a nutjob as people will think about alex jones the subjects he mentioned in the allocated time he had on cnn that most people would not have known about surely worth looking at by the public?

frankyscouse


Is ther not enough evidence being brought forward by both building and scientific experts to tell people there is something wrong with what happened on 9/11 and if you think so why isn't it being aired in the media all day every day. Maybe it can't because of the twisted way the media operates.