11 Mar 2014 00:39:26
Does ANYONE believe anymore that this was not a false flag event. I don't know if kids actually died that day. What I do know is that shadowy organisations and I include the US Govt there, have used this for gun control. Gene Rosen. FAKE! Obama's tears. FAKE! CNN coverage. FAKE! Laughing coroner. FAKE! Victoria Soto. FAKE! The PARKER FAMILY. F A K E! Need I say more?
What are you talking about.?
Sandy hook?
Yes I think he means sandy hook and I agree it was all set up imo for gun control purposes
Harold
Yeah, sorry Sandy Hook. Just thought everyone would know what I was talking about.
Thankfully the dunblane shootings never happened in this day and age, no doubt would have the usual suspects on claiming it to be a hoax and questioning wether and kids actually died. Horrible thing to say about that shooting in America, to come out and doubt kids even died is scandalous. A few YouTube videos edited and you's believe anything.
AP
{Ed001's Note - and you have evidence that it did happen other than media reports then? A media which has lied to people repeatedly over the years. I would say that a belief in anything they say is, quite frankly, stupid, without any evidence. There is only a problem with doubt if you are trying to hide something, otherwise you don't care if people doubt you as you know you are right.}
Davie Bhoy we live I'm the same county you say does anyone believe it? How many people round about you actually remember it? How many question it? I think out of all my mates family & work mates I'd be the only one. That is the problem users on this site face. Most people know there's something not right about 9/11 but at the end of the day it's who really cares now to look further? Aslong as your teams winning or your favourite bands got a new song out or there's a celebrity scandal, immigrants or those on benefits to shoot down that's what this country's all about.
RM8
{Ed033's Note - Sofia Smallstorm's presentation called Unraveling Sandy Hook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64
AP
"Horrible thing to say about that shooting in America, to come out and doubt kids even died is scandalous"
Imagine if you are wrong and we are right. Does that then make you horrible or scandalous for going along with the charade? Tragic events do happen, just look at the columbine school shooting or more recently one in Brazil. Difference being those 2 events are proved with mountains of cctv footage and hard evidence. Surprisingly none available regards sandy hook!
You come across as having strange motivations with many of your posts. Are we to assume you have looked at all the available evidence or are you just making a baseless comment?
Harold
The sandy hook and other mass shootings are not really my bag but I have looked and read stuff threw this site by the edds and regulars, my honest take on it is even if these kids were murdered like in the sandy hook case then there are lies being fed about how/why/were?
do I think anyone got murdered?i have not got a clue, I do have a problem with the robbie parker laugh off screen then like a actor on Que he to me acts like he is upset, this is 24hours after his kid is murdered, I know everyone is not the same and takes grief differently but I find that interview bizarre and as a farther of three it is not a normal thing a dad or anyone in fact would do.
So let me get this straight, the main stream media has been and always has been controlled by higher powers who manipulate the news, events that happen and even hire actors to portray innocent kids parents? How long have they been doing this with the news then? So I should shut up shop, not believe the news on tv, Internet and or need papers as it's all BS? and get my info from YouTube videos!
AP
No AP, you should continue to believe everything that is spoon fed to you, like a good little boy. And when anyone questions what is being portrayed by the media, you should tell them they are crazy. After all everything is just perfect in this world we live in. Wealth is dispersed amongst everyone, there is no poverty, starvation or destruction of the enviromnt. Governments serve the people, and debt is not a worldwide problem.
Give your head a wobble and switch on mate. We are being controlled by very sick people.
Melbourne CFC
Ap, do you believe everything in the bible or even 95/90 percent of it? Isn't that the original media/newspaper?
Doesn't have to be news distorted, just we the people simply not told stuff which is in the public interest. Latest episode I can think of involves jimmy saville and the bbc and people within the bbc. Was that not manipulated/withheld news?
Supasub
Good point Supasub! Yeh I guess AP believes there was no coverup when it comes to 1) Savile and 2) the Hillsborough disaster?
Oh hang on, it turns out our media, government officials and high ranking police officers were in on both conspiracies. I'm beginning to wonder if AP knows that Santa doesn't exist?
Harold
Lol AP I really am at a loss as to why you would visit this site if that is your attitude?
So I take it you haven't looked at the evidence of the case and are just making defensive, baseless comments then?
Harold
{Ed033's Note - A guest on Veritas Radio called Ty Bollinger told of his thoughts before he 'woke up'. He was saying [I'm paraphrasing him here] that after the main stream media told him that muslims carried out 9/11, he wanted the American military to wipe all muslims off the face of the Earth.
This is how brainwashed he admitted he was before he 'woke up'. Interview is here if anyone is interested:
http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/02feb/VS-140227-tbollinger.php
I assume AP is a very narrow minded person who beleives everything on mainstream media and never takes the time to study and form his own opinion, look beyond the mainstream propaganda and take off the blinkers to see the real world we live in. Ignorace is bliss.
Ed033 thanks for sharing.
It is scary, I will admit to having had similar brainwashed thoughts at the time, though not about ALL Muslims I will hasten to add. My attitude towards the man they called 'Osama Bin Laden' was that I would gladly see him and any other extremist (as branded by the media/government) wiped off the face of this planet without the need for any proof to be shown my way. I'm pretty sure I would have even backed an instant war on the day of 9/11 itself, the levels of (mis-placed) anger were so high. This is why I get passionate about such topics - because I've lived through both sides and can now see clearly how my emotions, along with everyone else's, were manipulated for evil purposes. Looking back it seems crazy that I would be ready to jump on the bandwagon seeing as it took TPTB all of what a couple hours to start getting Bin Laden and Al Quaeda's names planted firmly in our brains! With no investigation needed? Clearly that is done at such an early stage deliberately as when people are in fear or shock they are incapable of critically analysing the situation, as we have seen in many cases including 7/7 (via Tony Blair) and the Woolwich incident (via various politicians) - in both cases before the police had carried out any investigation and whilst the population were in total shock.
In light of Hillsborough, Savile, the phone hacking scandal etc. etc. it is difficult to accept anyone thinks the media/establishment should be believed without questioning - whether they are into conspiracy theories or not.
Harold
So the the relatives of the children that were murdered in cold blood are just hired actors, pretty much all the replys to AP seems to suggest that anyway. Well then, how do we know this individual that was 'brainwashed' after 9/11 to hate all Muslims and finally woke up, could he not be an actor?! No, ofcoarse not, what a ludicrous suggestion eh! Look at something long enough and I'm sure u will see what u want.
{Ed033's Note - Interview with Wolfgang Halbig, who was threatened for investigating the Sandy Hook event.
http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2014/03mar/VSR-140310-whalbig.php
So noname, I take it you have looked at the evidence and arrived at the conclusion that the incident happened as reported? Seemingly none of the skeptics will answer this question.
I've done a bit of reading on the subject and arrived at the conclusion that most of the official story does not tie up with the available evidence. Too much to go into here but I found 'sandy hook the documentary' on YouTube a good starting point. If you are really interested you might find viewing the video with an open mind an interesting experience. Or you might think it is a load of rubbish but you'll never know if you just accept everything you are told.
Last point from me, I never stated that I believe that actors were used, although I will admit I have a real problem with the testimonies of 3 individuals, namely the coroner, the parent with the surname parker and the man who lived next to the school (who has changed his story a few times). I think all 3 are dealt with in the video above, from memory.
Harold
"So let me get this straight, the main stream media has been and always has been controlled by higher powers who manipulate the news, events that happen and even hire actors"
AP I forgot to add - type 'CNN faking news' into YouTube and see what you find.
Harold
It really annoys me when people who clearly don't do any research or watch the videos dispute they're validity. I watch the news as well as do my own research, and 90 percent of the time the "news" ahem, doesn't add up. They are always manipulating stories for they're own ends. I'm not suggesting you stop watching the news, but at least look into other possibilties. We are all theorists, and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but don't criticise others for having one, at the end of the day this is a conspiracy site.