13 Oct 2015 13:44:14
Hey guys, I just read an article on MSN news, the UK government are talking about legalizing cannabis to generate tax revenue. If you ask me that's the wrong reason to legalize it, maybe if it was for medical reasons I would accept it easier. i sometimes use cannabis I'm not against it just speaking morally. I've seen some posts about cannabis in some posts hope this interest's you guys. What's your opinion on this matter?


 
13 Oct 2015 14:47:31
my mum takes it for medicinal purpose and I would vote for it. am skeptical if it was not spiked with something though.


 
13 Oct 2015 15:58:26
In order to sell it the usual tory interests it won't work by saying its medicinal. But by saying its for tax raising then they'll be able to sell it as a policy. Especially if the tax money goes on various other tory policies. And if they have notice to buy shares in whichever companies get the licences.


 
13 Oct 2015 21:14:23
Honestly the whole lot of it is bollocks! They should legalise the lot and provide clean safe drugs and get rid of the underground. People want drugs they get them and all the money wasted on trying to police it is obviously not working. And as for medicinal benefits you get psylocin that helps depression, mdma for ptsd (proved) shulgin work on it for the American government and you also have iboga that is pretty much bomb proof for treating addiction.

But then where would the profit be if they didn't sell subitex and methadone, it really is all a crock of crap. Sugar and added salt are more dangerous than most of the illegal substances fact, and we let our kids feast on it.


 
14 Oct 2015 00:08:55
Even if its legal the underground black market won't go away they'll keep on selling guns, ammunition and drugs. Its a real problem in Glasgow were I'm from so many wannabe gangsters wanna make there mark on the city. Back to the point when I was in Amsterdam the government regulated cannabis cafes were extortionate for weed. The locals there still use underworld drug dealers because there product is cheaper than the cafes. I think the same would happen here unfortunately.


 
14 Oct 2015 07:28:55
How in the world would the underground black market still sell drugs, if the price and quality was cheaper through regulation, and access would be easy as there would be shops selling them?

Think before you type mate.

Spot on growbun, the war on drugs worked about as well if not worse then whatthe current war on terror will.


 
14 Oct 2015 10:28:08
I did think before I typed, did you? I'm only giving my opinion on the facts iv seen in Amsterdam the drug dealers have the same quality but sell it cheaper. Now Britain has one of the highest tax rates for cigarettes, why would they not do the same for ganja? If the government did legalize it and it became widespread they would have a monopoly of tax off of it which in my opinion the price of the ganja would be greater than the drug dealers just out of sheer greed. let's face it the British government are just greedy money loving people.


 
14 Oct 2015 10:57:15
I'm not posting from a place of complete ignorance mate, whereas you are. Do you know why cigarettes are taxed so massively? To offset the cost to the public health system because of the destruction they cause to the human body. It has nothing to do with marijuana. Rather then looking at an example like Amsterdam, where Cafes can charge stupid rates because they know most of the tourists that visit, do so just to get high. Look at Colorado, where Marijuana is sold at a cheaper price than on the streets, quality is far better and taxes are going directly to public schooling and health systems. Where crime is at its lowest point in 15 years, along with drink driving offences as well as violence. Or Portugal, where all drugs are decriminalised and some legal, and addiction rates have been cut from 30 to 5%, along with a drop in crime.

How about Switzerland's new(ish) approach to heroin addiction where they are setting up clinics to give patients up to two grams a day, intravenously, and where there has been no impact on health, while crime rates plummet and productivity remains stable.

Once again mate, if you want to have a debate or as you put it an opinion, on something, at the very least educate yourself on what is actually being done, and focus on the places where legalisation has happened, and the results from it. Rather then basing it on an uneducated view of tobacco taxation, and a place known solely for marijuana cafes.

As growbun pointed out, now that studies are being done on illegal substances, results are showing the wide ranging benefits they can have on mental health, when used correctly. there's a reason pharmaceutical companies have been using this substances for a long time, to combat problems with health, and why they are actively lobbying to keep us from obtaining them ourselves, through easily accessible and legal avenues.


 
14 Oct 2015 18:01:42
I'm glad you spent the time and effort to get some good facts down there Melbourne. The fact the word drugs strikes fear into most people. Drugs in real terms are a whole massive bag pardon the pun, paracetamol , aspirin etc but get called medication and millions of prescribed drugs have unbelievable side effects and destroy the body far more than most so called illegal drugs the only difference is that the illegal drugs have a very obvious effect and to be fair the whole criminalisation of them is just pure control because it can make you see the world in a different light and no government wants you to think outside the box so any displays of such thinking get called psychosis or dilusional. But I must stress that like all substance it can have an adverse effect and it's very much down to self control and the individual. But I strongly believe people should be classed as criminals for wanting to enjoy there own time not bothering anyone else


 
14 Oct 2015 20:47:13
Legalise it and give the money to the health services


 
14 Oct 2015 22:33:46
You're alright in Spain ain't you. You can grow three plants I believe?