28 Jan 2016 19:53:17
Hi all,
First post but long time reader of this site some very interesting views are shared on here.
Read something relating to holocaust conspiracies the other day and got me intrigued. so I did some searching and as always there was loads of information relating to it.
What are people's views on this topic. slightly controversial I know especially as a first post.
{Ed033's Note - See, when you say holocaust, people should start asking, which holocaust are you talking about?
The Armenian holocaust? or the holocaust of the german people after WW2? or some other holocaust, as the Jewish holocaust (of which an unknown number of jewish people did really die) has so many lies about it, it's crazy.
Video below is based on the book Hellstorm by Thomas Goodrich about the unknown holocaust of german people after WWII.
28 Jan 2016 20:54:02
Thank you for the swift reply, I specifically meant ww2 and in particular Auschwitz. I read that one particular theory is that there wasn't even a gas pipe running to that area.
I thought this was the best place to get some feedback.
{Ed033's Note - i know you meant the Jewish Holocaust. The 6 million ritual figure comes from Jewish literature in the 1800s. After WW2 the russians changed certain things in 1 or more camps to make it look like there were 'death' gas chambers but the gas chambers were actually water shower rooms. There was zyclon b gas used at the camps but it was used to kill off any fleas / lice carrying deadly pathogens, which was widely used at the time in prisons even in America.
The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth
28 Jan 2016 22:27:37
You could argue that the hollocaust in question was the first false flag! Or at least the most complete! The idea has been used as a blueprint ever since! And it's not controversial on here, lew!
29 Jan 2016 10:07:09
The "chimeneys" at Auschwitz were thrown up after the so called liberation, they aren't and never were connected to anything, this was admitted by a guide at the camp, the so called gas chambers weren't gas tight so would have been completely useless for the purpose of mass gassings, they were in fact actual shower rooms, as you said plenty of things on the net to look through, keep on reading, you will be amazed at how the lie has been embedded into society and the consciences of the unquestioning.
29 Jan 2016 11:32:20
Very interesting. I hope this isn't a daft question but what is the point of false flagging ww2 concentration 'death' camps against Jews?
{Ed033's Note - To gain sympathy from everyone else to:
1. Create the State of Israel
2. To be given lots of business deals
3. To allow them to be part of the global decision making
4. To allow zionists to get into powerful positions
5. To get sympathy money
6. To allow them to get free loans
7. To allow them to start wars
8. To allow them to create Greater Israel
9. So no one can criticise Israel or Jews for anything
10. To allow them to threaten anyone or any country
any many more reasons
29 Jan 2016 13:20:47
Try looking up the holodomor if you want to see state enacted genocide. There's one never mentioned in the west.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, good one and the Irish holocaust where they were subjected to a deliberate man-made famine (which was later wrongly called the Irish Potato Famine)
29 Jan 2016 13:37:26
So Hitler was a front man for this operation, effectively meaning the whole war was a charade?
I've done lots of reading regarding cover ups and false flag. 9/11, sandy hook. JFK. moon landing etc. but this never crossed my mind.
Amazing how one little article has hooked my interest.
Thank you for the insightful responses.
{Ed033's Note - Hitler's main adviser was actually working for the allies so it's difficult to figure hitler out but, if you want to know more about hitler, it's very important to watch the below documentary. It's been split into 27 parts.
29 Jan 2016 18:07:47
The problem is people focus on the 6 million Jews. What about the other victims. Poles, Czechs, Ukrainians, Russians, the disabled, gypsies, homosexuals, the white rose, the generals, priests. What about the commando order, nacht und nebel, sippenhaft, wormhoudt, oradour. The nazis were filth led by a lunatic.
29 Jan 2016 18:47:54
Kim that's what I'm trying to understand. were they though or is it all a story?
29 Jan 2016 18:56:17
You could say the same about the Soviets and Stalin.
29 Jan 2016 21:01:19
the point is that for some reason hitler and the nazis were singled out to been more vile than any other in history. People forget that almost every other country in history has done vile things in war time. I think it was the english who started concentration camps! there has never been any proof of figures and they have even been officially changed throughout the years> the start of WW2 was no different to recent wars in that A country fights with another country and the english and the americans come wading in.
i think that hitler asked those mentioned to leave the country first. Its the same as the current migrant situation. If a country decided that enough is enough then if it decided to ask them to leave then why is it wrong. the jews were trying to bring germany down or at least a majority of them were.
{Ed033's Note - It's pretty important for people to watch the above 27 part documentary Adolph Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told, for info on Hitler they don't know.
29 Jan 2016 21:27:04
I'm Russian you don't have to tell me about Stalin. As I mentioned the holodomor above. But agreed he doesn't get the criticism he deserves.
29 Jan 2016 21:30:15
I mentioned enough examples there of other victims of the nazis.
At the end of the day the core philosophy in both Mein kampf and the Nuremberg laws was the superiority of one type of human being over another human being. And from that came what?
30 Jan 2016 00:31:48
I have watched first 2 will plug my way through em ed!
{Ed033's Note - Great stuff growbun, it'll be worth getting through all 27 parts.
30 Jan 2016 04:44:22
Churchill was no wallflower either. He would have put Thatcher to shame.
30 Jan 2016 09:29:34
True Churchill certainly had blood on his hands too but that's not really talked about, as we know history is written by the victors, well mainstream "history" that is.
And yes Kim' Hitler had a hard on for Jews, but look at what was happening in Germany at the time hyper inflation, people starving, reparations, etc etc, and seemingly to Hitler and no doubt many others the Jews were sitting pretty at the centre of it all.
Look what's happening in the middle east now' palestinian people being forced off there lands and as good as being forced back into the stone age by a state set up by the victors, by the very people who were supposedly persecuted in the war, they are as good as doing the same, and the western powers do next to nothing'and the question to be asked is why? was Hitler so wrong to think these people were bad and the allies corrupt?
30 Jan 2016 13:21:19
As I said though it wasn't just the Jews. As soon as you bring eugenics into it anyone fitting the ideal becomes fair game. Racial undesirables were purged out of society. Would anyone like to see that repeated today? All these children with downs syndrome do we just go around injecting them? If we're wiping out people based on disability's where does that stop? Any philosophy or policy where you say one human being is inferior to another human being can only end one way.
And ultimate responsibility for what happened under the nazis has to reside with one person for creating that philosophy and allowing a culture to grow that enabled the worst excesses of human nature to flourish.
30 Jan 2016 21:53:25
You and I Kim will never agree, all I'm saying here now is I think Hitler did what he thought was best for his people, take care of your own 1st if we had more politicians like him now we would all be happier and as I said that's my opinion.
{Ed033's Note - Yes jimmy, you can't have 'discussions' with close-minded people.
30 Jan 2016 22:35:42
That's very true ed, my mind is as closed as Kim's, my life up to now has been complex, more so than most people. I've come into contact with life experience moulds the mind set and I've got no problem with mine although I feel the conflict internally from time to time.
If I'm honest, as things stand if you look at the way things are globaly now I feel for the upcoming indigenous western Europeans, their lands and way's of Life have been frittered away by people who will never have to deal with the fallout.
{Ed033's Note - We can come to conclusions but we should remain open to all possibility when we encounter new or different info.
i think that the control group now have to put the total control system (that's been planned for thousands of years) in front of people within the next 2 decades and they probably believe that even with the political correctness program, European people are going to reject it and because they don't want to ruin the thousands of years old plan, they have to remove the Europeans out of the equation.
30 Jan 2016 23:30:05
And that is happening now.
31 Jan 2016 01:14:35
You are correct but what if an existence of one group could be the end of another or a society when you don't receive the same love and respect that is given. And yes in cases you mention above them of course not, but the thread is about the mass ignorance to the facts of what really happened
{Ed033's Note - Who are you speaking to grow bun?
31 Jan 2016 10:07:39
I really don't know edðŸ„🌚💊💉🌡
{Ed033's Note - Is that the mushrooms themselves communicating to us through you?
31 Jan 2016 11:02:10
Who's got a closed mind?
31 Jan 2016 11:06:27
Ed33 your saying the ultimate plan is to ruin Europe by destroying Europeans. Well wasn't your hero hitler a massive step forwards in that plan. All I said was any philosophy where you state that one human being is superior to another human being can only end in one way. Which is something we are seeing today. Unless of course you actually agree with nazi racial policy and eugenics theory?
I don't expect this to be posted as a lot of times when I post something you don't agree with it doesn't get posted. I thought this site was supposed to be free of censorship.
{Ed001's Note - no site can be free of censorship or it would just be flamed out of existence and turn into a place for trolls to post vile abuse. I agree with you though, anyone saying Hitler 'wasn't all that bad' needs help. Just because there are others that are just as bad, but don't get the bad press he did, does not make his vile racist policies fine. Yes he was put in place by the German Army, initially to be a spy, yes his efforts were funded by Rothschilds and others, but that was because they agreed with him, not because he was their puppet who was just doing as he was told.}
31 Jan 2016 11:35:05
Spasiba tovarisch editor.
There have been bigger monsters in history, Stalin and Mao n the same century. But anyone who thinks we need more hitlers I just cannot agree with that.
If doing the best for your own people means the exclusion and extermination of others then how is that to be considered right? That line of thinking excuses Milosevic and makes Rwanda acceptable.
That is not what I was raised to think, even by a regime that had murdered millions of its own citizens.
We see the same philosophy present in Isis condemning anyone they consider inferior.
We are all human beings and have to share this planet. One day in peace hopefully away from bullshit religious and racial superiority dogma.
31 Jan 2016 11:08:52
Id also like to know the thoughts of one of the other editors as well on this particular topic.
{Ed033's Note - I'm interested in whatever the truth maybe. i don't know what the truth is but no one else does either. i'll keep my mind open and alter my current view with new info. This is why it's important to look at new info and that's why i put up youtube videos, not to say this is the truth but to say here is some info you may not know about.
You know when people are brainwashed on a particular subject, because they go crazy on the subject repeating the mainstream media, politically correct version.
This is not a mainstream media version web site, so don't expect it to be.
31 Jan 2016 15:51:00
Just because something is an alternative view or goes against the mainstream doesn't make it the truth either.
31 Jan 2016 18:41:55
I don't think anyone is saying that Kim. I for one like your posts Kim and really hear where your coming from but this isn't in debate.
31 Jan 2016 22:39:10
Well off to embassy tomorrow so won't be on much.
01 Feb 2016 21:19:20
Quite glad to see Ed001's reply on this and Ed033!
I know I'm quite 'mainstream' (if you like) but I'm cynical enough to always ask questions. honest 😬.