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16 Aug 2017 13:35:56
Hey Ed33

I don't think i've ever posted on here before so go easy on me! I consider myself very open to conspiracy debate and my attitude is generally to trust nothing msm tells us but i do feel i use reason in this also.

I'm curious as to why the 'deep state' allowed Trump to become president in the first place. It was clear the guy was a loose cannon. Maybe i'm missing something.

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{Ed033's Note - Yes, i would speculate that to begin with they thought Trump had no chance of actually beating off the Republican puppet candidates.

Secondly from their point of view, even if by some miracle he did become the Republican candidate, he still had no chance because they believed that Hillary would win anyway, and on top of that they could do enough rigging here and there if need be to ensure 100% that Hillary would win. And Hillary did win the Popular vote as it turned out (due to California).

I think a number of things went against them and for Trump (in no particular order):

1. When Comey opened up the investigation again of Hillary, just before the election was a huge benefit for Trump

2. The rumours of Hillary being seriously unwell and unfit to be President (proven when she collapsed getting into a vehicle) may of had an impact

3. A split within the establishment that didn't want Hillary at any cost and therefore would do their bit for Trump (who is pro Israel after all, so Trump should be Ok from the establishment's point of view)

4. Alternative info sites that were promoting Trump would be a better choice than Hillary had a greater impact than they thought

5. Social media and youtube that were promoting Trump would be a better choice than Hillary had a greater impact than they thought

6. The Amish in Pennsylvania who don't normally vote won Pennsylvania for Trump (which didn't figure into their calculations)

7. The main stream media promoting Hillary had less impact than they thought

8. A lot of people who don't normally vote actually voted and most of them voted for Trump (which didn't figure into their calculations)

9. They actually believed their own propaganda that Hillary would win by a landslide, so stopped the funding to promote Hillary towards the end when they should have ploughed a few more millions in.

10. More Americans disliked Hillary than they thought

11. More Americans liked what Trump was saying than they thought as Trump had a more effective team than they thought

12. The pro Clinton rigging that they did do wasn't enough


1.) 16 Aug 2017 19:49:05
Thanks for the reply Ed.

That's a really in-depth list and yeah i can see exactly where you're coming from. The influence of alternative media to my mind has been the biggest thing. It seemed as if Clinton was satan's daughter looking at certain sources.

I think people had just become sick of these political dynasties that became so obvious in America, perhaps less overt elsewhere but probably prevalent also. Either way, having to choose between those 2 is a sad indictment of America really.

{Ed033's Note - I know what you mean about the 2 of them, except Trump is way better than Hillary (which isn't saying Trump is good) and that just shows how bad Hillary is imo.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 20:49:22
Very well put ed33.

{Ed033's Note - thanks


3.) 17 Aug 2017 10:58:34
Best of two evils.

I won't lie, I actually thought Trump was just banging the drum and pandering to the people to win votes. I thought once in office, he'll be the same as they all have been. Nope, he's still an enormous bellend.

As for Hillary, I'm going to apologise for this in advance Ed, but she's a malignant See You Next Tuesday. That's the least offensive way I can put it.


 

 

 

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07 Dec 2017 00:23:41
It doesn't mean a whole lot but congrats to Richard D. Hall on his decade of truth seeking. He comes across as a likeable and genuine bloke. Absolutely love his show, always a pleasure when i see a new one up on youtube.

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16 Aug 2017 19:49:05
Thanks for the reply Ed.

That's a really in-depth list and yeah i can see exactly where you're coming from. The influence of alternative media to my mind has been the biggest thing. It seemed as if Clinton was satan's daughter looking at certain sources.

I think people had just become sick of these political dynasties that became so obvious in America, perhaps less overt elsewhere but probably prevalent also. Either way, having to choose between those 2 is a sad indictment of America really.

CanIbeTheKing

{Ed033's Note - I know what you mean about the 2 of them, except Trump is way better than Hillary (which isn't saying Trump is good) and that just shows how bad Hillary is imo.


 

 

 

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