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12 Oct 2015 03:29:49
Hi everyone. Not conspiracy related but I wanted to share anyway in case this testimony can help someone else who has been going through what I have recently. I have been a weed smoker for 12 years, and thought I would never quit. I even used to joke about how I would be an old man with a spliff hanging out my mouth. Anyway the last few weeks I have managed to do something I never thought I could never do and that is to quit smoking it.

I honestly think its the best decision I ever made. I am so much more clear headed, I can get up earlier without the need for 3 alarms, and I feel so much healthier and happier for it. The first week is admittedly very tough, but it gets easier. Anyway, if this is OK to be posted on here Eds I would appreciate it, as all people (myself included) tend to go on about these days is the positive side of smoking cannabis, and the negatives are rarely mentioned. Cheers, Jase

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1.) 12 Oct 2015 09:08:12
Well done jase!

I myself used to smoke weed and stopped because I started to work in oil and gas and you get tested! It was the best thing I ever did and I'm not anti weed it's horses for courses. The thing most people don't realise is that contrary to most idiots opinions on supper skunk etc and that people say that mind altering chems get put in weed, the real truth is that the chemical that does the damage is cbd which is higher in content in indica strains. What has been happening is that there is no commercial value in growing sativa strains because they take 12 weeks plus to flower and have small yields but they grow dead talk and indicas are short and bushy and can grow in 8 weeks with a heavy yield. So they got cross bred and hey ho you get tell bushey fast growing heavy yielding plants that are very cbd heavy which produced couch lock. Plants that are high in thc and no cbd are very uplifting .

For me as I got older and started getting responsibility so found it best to stay away and like yourself I'm happier for it 😀


2.) 12 Oct 2015 09:18:21
I stopped years ago along with other substances. My most severe bouts of psychosis were whilst I was smoking cannabis in my late teens, early twenties. Doing a lot of cocaine nearly everyday for a few years in my mid twenties after my mother died (although not a reason to justify my use) was also my lowest and darkest period. You have no way of knowing what you are taking these days either as all is virtually chemically tampered with. What gets my goat now is the legal highs. I don't understand why any chemical substance is not illegal to begin with. Some of the legal highs have the similar make up to crystal meth for instance. My children are growing up fast and it does start to worry me what they might come across as there will always be a friend at some point who dabbles eventually. All I can do is try and educate them as best I can.


3.) 12 Oct 2015 11:03:25
Lads that's great that ye moved on from it. i smoked a bit in my younger years when I was out in the clubbing scene and doing a few parties, now I wasn't hooked or anything, but now I have 3 daughters heading for their teen years I worry about them as drugs are everywhere even in schools,it would be great for any young posters on here if ye lads could tell them about the dark side of things, like not been able to get up for work, not able to function properly.

i know a few lads that say they were depressed, paranoid. I know another bloke who lost his job and now stays indoors most of the time, they should have ex-users going round to schools sharing their bad experiences. I grew up with a lad who was a gifted footballer, had trials at a few big clubs,but he couldn't get away from drink and drugs, he is just after hitting 40 now and says it was the biggest regret of his life, cheers boys thanks for sharing.


4.) 12 Oct 2015 11:49:50
Thanks for this thread and well done Jase.

I've smoked daily for around 15 years and have loved the majority of my experiences. But although I'm quite liberal in terms of my views on decriminalization and the benefits etc I have to admit that its become more than a habit over the years. Like any substance it can be damaging if the user struggles to control it. The negatives for me are a lack of energy and desire to get out of the house as well as getting up groggy and of course the health issues linked with smoking in general.

I've wanted to cut down or quit for a while now. time for another shot I think using this thread as my inspiration.


5.) 12 Oct 2015 12:46:27
for 15 years I was smoking every day. Pretty much knockewhen my first child was born. now maybe have a Joint a month as still enjoy being high from time to time. its all about moderation and in my heyday I just couldn't stop myself. I was an addict! I've done a lot of other drugs but Weed wae only one I was badly addicted to. used to grow the odd plan and send home loads in the post to myself on visits to Dam. now I look back and think what an idiot. I have a pretty successful career and could of blown it all for a small bit of green!


6.) 12 Oct 2015 19:17:32
I have been a smoker for around 30 years and have grown my own for around the same time
I don't smoke every day. Mainly at the weekends
Just like drinking it effects people in different ways, but alcohol is not banned
If it was legal to grow small amounts of grass it would cut out the dealers

{Ed033's Note - The mighty malaga gooner has graced us with a post. Why does it not surprise me you grow it. The plants are probably your 'sauce' for your 100% dead cert Arsenal rumours.


7.) 12 Oct 2015 19:52:53
Hey chaps, nicely done Jase, I've been an on and off smoker for most of my life. Started as most do having a toke from a few mates and then wanted to hang around the group so carried on.

Then, as I was growing up, I was playing for Stella, a football team here in Durban and heard I (with a group of course ) was going for trials at amaZulu the local S.A prem team here and they required a drug test so on short notice I got scared and didn't go. Now that was the biggest regret of my life so far and wish I had made better choices, regardless of thinking I was going to play for a top side which was probably not going to happen but we can all dream lol.

But now as a successful designer (which I like to think I am) I tend to find it's the norm in this industry. A lot of my mates take it to concentrate and draw or find inspiration, it also helps in breaking down barriers with meeting new people I suppose, because here in S.A it almost seems every second person is smoking!

I dabble in it once in a while and do find that it helps me concentrate while I paint or draw, and find it fun. But in the end for me its hard to weigh out the positives and negatives. so I say every person to their own. and again Jase enjoy it and well done


8.) 12 Oct 2015 20:02:14
I love a good smoke, with my kids it helps me unwind when they finally go off to sleep lol.

I agree with what HB has said, it can become addictive but I think u become more addicted to the stuff u do when high than the actual weed it's self.

I have cut down loads over the last few years, I still have a few friends that go through copious amounts a week where as mine lasts ages now :)

I figured out ages ago after the first one u don't really need much more, I smoke smaller smokes and spread them out now.


9.) 12 Oct 2015 20:28:14
Haha, never had you down as a stoner Chris.


10.) 12 Oct 2015 20:36:28
There's a lot about me you don't know Malaga :)


11.) 12 Oct 2015 21:21:20
I think this thread shows that abuse of anything is never wise. While I appreciate the trap you can get into if you smoke weed everyday, my view is based on my own experiences. When I was a lazy stoner, it was because I was lazy, and unmotivated. The plant didn't make me that way, it only gave me an outlet to waste my time in a state of numbness. When you do anything everyday it takes its toll on you, but its very dangerous when you search for excuses for why you are lazy, unmotivated or even becoming slower in thought and your first step is to look outside yourself.

The plant is a medicine and should only ever be used as such. When literally all the evidence that is coming out, is showing that marijuana doesn't cause mental illness, you have to ask yourself why did all you seem to feel the same. Was it that the plant allowed you to be lazy losers, and so you began to feel bad about your life and choices and you blame the plant rather then looking deeper in your own psyche? Was it that due to its lack of regulation in production, many dealers spray the plant with substances that can cause problems?

Either way, its a very dangerous step to blame a plant for your issues, when all the science is showing the plant does not do such things. I was once the same, but when I stopped abusing marijuana and started getting my life in order (healthy diet, exercise, hobbies) all of a sudden it was obvious what the problem was all those years. Me and my attitude towards life.

I think if you're truly objective in thought, you may feel the same. I smoke once every couple of months, maybe more, maybe less. But just because some people lack the ability to keep control of their own lives and look for an escape, rather than looking to better understand themselves, doesn't mean the rest of the planet should suffer by having a plant that has grown here, naturally, for millions of years, made illegal.


12.) 12 Oct 2015 22:05:45
Melbourne I totally agree, I think most of us see it that way tbh.

Lots of people die from alcoholism annually yet there is no call to make it illegal. Only the individual can control how they use substances and weed certainly is of benefit to many people and should be of benefit to far more - if only the medical benefits were shared amongst the mainstream.

I just think that whilst we point out the positives in forums like these its also important to point out the dangers, everything in moderation is the way forward. The problem for people like me is we got in a little too deep too soon, before educating ourselves on the pros and cons. I do blame the poor education we receive when it comes to illegal substances but more than that I fully understand that I have myself to blame and only I can decide to make the relevant changes.


13.) 12 Oct 2015 22:51:26
I have to say that no drug is addictive, its up the person taking the drug to keep things in moderation.
30+years a smoker and an occasional dabbler in cocaine, I'm an ex raver so I use to like taking pills (E's). a lot :) I was always in good company which helps.
I have always been a worker hardly ever having time off, and I don't really get ill, my mind is clear, i'm very polite and well mannered to everyone I meet.
The point i'm trying to make is that drugs if used moderately can work. Alcohol on the other hand is the root of all evil (in my eyes).
Peace.


14.) 12 Oct 2015 23:16:58
Theres only one drug (other then prescription) that if you abuse and then stop taking, it can kill you, as your body will shut down. Its not marijuana, cocaine, heroin, speed, meth, mdma, ecstacy or lsd. Its alcohol. The only legal substance in the list. No surprise there, but when people want to throw stones at drug users, it comes from a place of absolute ignorance and arrogance. Nothing I hate more then a bloke with a pint in his hand preaching about the fact he doesn't use drugs.


15.) 12 Oct 2015 23:51:41
Well said Melbourne, Alcohol is a hard substance to leave, its evil,it spawns violence, kills lifes and wrecks relationships, how anyone can become an alcoholic is beyond me.
Weed on the other hand. well, have you ever seen a stoner not smiling :-)

{Ed001's Note - this is nonsense, I have personally seen many stoners commit violent acts while stoned. On the other hands I have known alcoholics who were kind drunks. There is more to it than this kind of bull, that is based on bias. You have obviously never been involved in any kind of gang, where the whole group will be smoking weed together before going out to cause trouble.}


16.) 12 Oct 2015 23:54:24
Your right Melbourne my worst vice by far is alcohol. I drink every day and it's far more detrimental than anything I have ever took. But first il explain how I got there. When I started in oil and gas I gave up the weed well I didn't I replaced it with alcohol and every time I go out its there right in my face.

Since stopping smoking weed I have the occasional joint when given. I won't buy it! And it's nice it makes me giggle , makes music nicer etc,,, but when I smoke it for a period it does my head in, so I don't a joint a year for me. But I do alsorts frequently do changa or vape dmt when I can be arsed to pull some from bark, do acid two-3 times a year (1p-lsd is now a legal analog in uk £8 a blotter and as potent as lsd) but heavy come downs limit that? And good old mushies. And if I can be arsed and get kids shipped out for a few days have a good old soul search on black cappi vine! Never do Coke only do Mandy if on the rare occasion I go for a rave up. But weed I can truely say does me in more than any of those things. Me and the misses enjoy ket with a little drink but everyone should do whatever they are comfortable doing and if it effects your ability to live your life or if you have kids and they have to go without to fund it then knock it in the head. I hold down a great job (money wise) and am the biggest muck head out there. Drugs tend to have an adverse effect on the poorly educated and those who live in an in privileged area where they choose to pick drugs over the basic need to live. Legalise all drugs in my opinion because you either are or are not in this life


17.) 13 Oct 2015 00:51:42
Agree with that Melbourne,alcohol is the root of all evil,like everything else it's fine in moderation,but when alcohol is abused it can be a cold killer,and like you said its accepted in society


18.) 13 Oct 2015 01:24:20
Thank you everyone for your words of encouragement, and for sharing your own experiences. I had no idea how this thread would be accepted so I didn't go into a great deal of detail, but since you have all shared your experiences I will share a little bit more about where this has left me.

I was in a very destructive relationship for 7 years. We both used to smoke weed every day and I can honestly say for my own part that smoking weed contributed greatly to the downfall of that relationship. I used to get angry over the slightest things, especially if I had ran out of weed. I used to take my anger out on my girlfriend, and I used her for money to buy weed, among other things. I didn't work for roughly 50% of those 7 years, and I had no shame in that, providing I had the weed to smoke. I was paranoid constantly, thinking my friends and family were judging me for these things I was doing, and it was like a vicious cycle. The more I smoked the less I wanted to do anything, and the more paranoid I would become that my girlfriend would leave me for it, so the more I became reliant on the weed to quash those feelings of rejection. I became aggressive and violent, not so much to her but to my surroundings, kicking in walls and doors, and throwing things around, and ultimately rejecting anyone who tried to help me. In the end it got to the point that we could no longer be in the house together in the same room. I would spend my days in my bed trying to sleep away these horrible feelings and thoughts, then get up at night when she came to bed to go downstairs and smoke weed.

After 6 months she got fed up of me being like this and left me. I was truly heartbroken, even though I knew everything that had happened had been my own fault. This is when things really took a turn for the worse. I moved into a little flat on my own, and started drinking and smoking so heavily its amazing i'm actually alive to tell you this story. I was at times drinking a bottle of whiskey a night, along with smoking a good few grams of weed. Then started the suicidal thoughts. I was wracked with guilt so much I could not stop thinking about ways to end my life. Every night I would lie in bed thinking of the least painful ways to kill myself. The ONLY reason I didn't do it was how I thought it would affect my family. This went on for about a year.

I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder, and severe depression, and placed on severe sedative medication which ultimately left me almost zombified. I was barely able to hold a conversation at times, and although the suicidal thoughts had gone, I just felt empty.

I eventually moved out of that place, and into a new house. I was feeling slightly better in myself, but carried on smoking and drinking constantly, always looking for an escape from reality. I stopped taking the anti-schizophrenic tablets, and tried coping just with the weed, and at times I was fine, but then I would slip back into depression again.

Two weeks ago however, I had a minor epiphany. I had been watching lots of conspiracy videos on youtube regarding the world ending (sept 23rd, i'm sure some of you remember). When it didn't happen (as I was expecting in all honesty), I was ready to simply carry on with my life , but something told me that if I carry on the way I have been, i'm not going to make anything of my life ever. Call it what you want, but I swear God helped me here. So I quit smoking and drinking.

Fast forward two weeks and I feel great. By no means perfect but all the suicidal thoughts have gone, and I am slowly looking to go back to work full time. i'm going to be starting a voluntary job soon, and get myself back to being a productive member of society. i'm 100% convinced that the substance abuse is what lead me down this dark, dark road, as when I was 18 when I first started smoking I was a different person entirely.

Anyway sorry for the long post. I just pray that there maybe someone else out there who reads this and can relate, and it can help them. Obviously not everyone is going to have the same experience on weed, and i'm by no means trying to demonize it, but my mental health has severely suffered as a result.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply and offer words of encouragement. It really meant a lot.
Jase


19.) 13 Oct 2015 08:18:08
Well done Jase, hope you keep it up mate.


20.) 13 Oct 2015 09:30:37
Best of luck mate,there's always a way out,things can only get better,there's always people out there that are willing to help along the way.


21.) 13 Oct 2015 09:55:29
Ed01 your right,but I think there's more to the violent acts than weed,like mixing alcohol and cocaine that's a recipe for violence,there isn't a town in Ireland or England at the weekends where people go out mixing drugs and drink and committing acts of violence on the streets,
Then as we are saying it's mostly immature young people that go over the top showing off in front of their mates.

{Ed001's Note - which is my point, it is not the drugs themselves, it is the person taking them. Whether that be alcohol or cocaine or weed.}


22.) 14 Oct 2015 00:05:42
You are right Ed, it is not specifically the drug/alcohol that's violent but the person, I suppose I was been a little bias.
As for been in a been in a gang, well, in my youth I was a footbal hooligan who liked nothing better than a punch up at the weekends(not proud of that) and through my own personel experience and what I saw alcohol played a major part in the bravado of it all.


 

 

27 Jul 2015 10:52:37
Interesting statement from Randy Quaid, claiming there are a group of "star whackers"in Hollywood, murdering "stars".

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fYyW1Kttp6M


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ppTpSb_u7hA

Jase

{Ed033's Note - This makes sense that this would happen as hollywood actors have lots of money so there would be groups trying to steal it from them and if they got in the way, they'd be 'whacked'.


 

 

22 Jul 2015 14:07:54
Ive just watched this video of Robin Williams improvising, yet it looks very much like he is under some form of mind control, we all know how some celebrities talk about alter egos, and I think this is what we are witnessing here.

The director is also very patient with him, though as the old saying goes time is money. Also the director repeats the same line to him over and over like he's is aware of what's going on and how to deal with it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=h1EIBtYf-A8

Jase

{Ed033's Note - to me, Robin Williams is not under any mind control but is acting totally unscripted and improvising, which is why he's been asked to take part in this short film in the first place, because he can improvise as he did all the time acting in Mork and Mindy. The director is part of the act and the short film is to promote the director, to show that this director can work with any actor, even someone who constantly goes off script.

It tells you what's going on in the beginning of the video


1.) 22 Jul 2015 16:32:47
Yeah your probably right to be fair ed, never really watched much of him, so I will trust your judgement. Cheers


2.) 22 Jul 2015 18:11:28
I loved robin Williams, very sad what happened. I'd never seen anything like him, I was spell bound. I didn't fully understand it and some of the humour went over my head, but the more I saw the more I understood. Very sad.


 

 

21 Jun 2015 06:03:08
Interesting information regarding the recent Charleston shootings. The piece of information that stands out to me is the Rev Clementa Pinckley who was shot dead. He was a member of the senate of south carolina, who was campaigning for all police officers to be required to wear cameras whilst on duty.

It is a possibility that like with the Cumbria shootings, as Richard D Hall points out in his video "Patsy Driver" that the real target was disguised among a mass shooting. Also I read elsewhere that all of his 80 facebook friends were only added in 2015, and many of whom were black.

http://goo.gl/6KbokX

Jase

{Ed033's Note - At the moment we don't know enough about this incident. What we do know is that they will continue to carry out false flag attacks to:
1. attempt to get gun control in USA

2. stimulate race hatred

3. continue the war on terror


1.) 21 Jun 2015 17:59:36
Yes I agree, perhaps also to move attention away from the black man, shot dead by a police officer in the same town only a month or so ago. I find it strange also that he was very cooperative with the police, and he was seen driving through the town the very next day. Surely he would want to be as far away from people who could potentially recognize him as possible. Strange circumstances to say the least.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, we know that they advertise for 'incident'/drill actors. So much is fake/drills using paid agents, assets and actors. It's all confusing.


2.) 22 Jun 2015 14:28:08
i tend not to jump to conclusions straight after a tragedy could be a number of reasons , time will tell.

{Ed033's Note - We'll have to wait on this one but sooner or later there will be another false flag.


 

 

18 Jun 2015 22:27:32
Hi would like to ask ED033 and any other posters, if they can explain the ring and symbolism this short video. You may remember the "lunar wave" video I posted a few weeks ago, well I just came across this guy, Manny Skywatch who is adamant that the channel Crow777 is another disinfo channel, and these symbols tell me he is correct. Has anyone seen these symbols before? Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v680_Wt1Trc

Jase

{Ed033's Note - Crow 777 has the technical ability to fake stuff. the moon wave could easily be fake and some of the ufos in his videos look fake to me.

If you have an audience, you have to keep coming up with new stuff so just like with wildlife programs, if the wildlife don't come along and do something that you want, then you have to fake something, then with sky watching, if something new doesn't come along, you have to fake it otherwise you lose your audience.

Just because he wears an astrological ring and places astrological symbols in his graphics, doesn't mean anything to me.


1.) 20 Jun 2015 18:42:53
OK thanks ed, so they are just astrological symbols then. And yes obviously what you mentioned is possible, but as always we we never know for sure.

{Ed033's Note - yes, astrology symbols and yes i don't know whether he fakes stuff but people do fake stuff, because it could go viral.


 

 

 

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13 Oct 2015 01:24:20
Thank you everyone for your words of encouragement, and for sharing your own experiences. I had no idea how this thread would be accepted so I didn't go into a great deal of detail, but since you have all shared your experiences I will share a little bit more about where this has left me.

I was in a very destructive relationship for 7 years. We both used to smoke weed every day and I can honestly say for my own part that smoking weed contributed greatly to the downfall of that relationship. I used to get angry over the slightest things, especially if I had ran out of weed. I used to take my anger out on my girlfriend, and I used her for money to buy weed, among other things. I didn't work for roughly 50% of those 7 years, and I had no shame in that, providing I had the weed to smoke. I was paranoid constantly, thinking my friends and family were judging me for these things I was doing, and it was like a vicious cycle. The more I smoked the less I wanted to do anything, and the more paranoid I would become that my girlfriend would leave me for it, so the more I became reliant on the weed to quash those feelings of rejection. I became aggressive and violent, not so much to her but to my surroundings, kicking in walls and doors, and throwing things around, and ultimately rejecting anyone who tried to help me. In the end it got to the point that we could no longer be in the house together in the same room. I would spend my days in my bed trying to sleep away these horrible feelings and thoughts, then get up at night when she came to bed to go downstairs and smoke weed.

After 6 months she got fed up of me being like this and left me. I was truly heartbroken, even though I knew everything that had happened had been my own fault. This is when things really took a turn for the worse. I moved into a little flat on my own, and started drinking and smoking so heavily its amazing i'm actually alive to tell you this story. I was at times drinking a bottle of whiskey a night, along with smoking a good few grams of weed. Then started the suicidal thoughts. I was wracked with guilt so much I could not stop thinking about ways to end my life. Every night I would lie in bed thinking of the least painful ways to kill myself. The ONLY reason I didn't do it was how I thought it would affect my family. This went on for about a year.

I was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder, and severe depression, and placed on severe sedative medication which ultimately left me almost zombified. I was barely able to hold a conversation at times, and although the suicidal thoughts had gone, I just felt empty.

I eventually moved out of that place, and into a new house. I was feeling slightly better in myself, but carried on smoking and drinking constantly, always looking for an escape from reality. I stopped taking the anti-schizophrenic tablets, and tried coping just with the weed, and at times I was fine, but then I would slip back into depression again.

Two weeks ago however, I had a minor epiphany. I had been watching lots of conspiracy videos on youtube regarding the world ending (sept 23rd, i'm sure some of you remember). When it didn't happen (as I was expecting in all honesty), I was ready to simply carry on with my life , but something told me that if I carry on the way I have been, i'm not going to make anything of my life ever. Call it what you want, but I swear God helped me here. So I quit smoking and drinking.

Fast forward two weeks and I feel great. By no means perfect but all the suicidal thoughts have gone, and I am slowly looking to go back to work full time. i'm going to be starting a voluntary job soon, and get myself back to being a productive member of society. i'm 100% convinced that the substance abuse is what lead me down this dark, dark road, as when I was 18 when I first started smoking I was a different person entirely.

Anyway sorry for the long post. I just pray that there maybe someone else out there who reads this and can relate, and it can help them. Obviously not everyone is going to have the same experience on weed, and i'm by no means trying to demonize it, but my mental health has severely suffered as a result.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply and offer words of encouragement. It really meant a lot.
Jase

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28 Aug 2015 23:44:47
I agree it is more than likely illogical, and I have been myself battling with religion my whole life, being brought up as a christian, and this is something that I too scoffed at the thought of at first. However after watching the presentations, I have to say this is one of three things.

1. Sept 23rd is going to be a date of significance, whether it be FEMA, Start of WW3, Global Stock Market crash etc. and maybe as you said, they are using biblical prophesy to bring in their "NWO", or something else ( A fake rapture/ abduction by aliens has also been discussed).

2. A real life Christian/Jewish rapture, certainly the least likely in all probability.

3. The day/week will pass and nothing happens, and this was just another fear-mongering tactic, all created by the elite-ists, to keep people distracted from other issues going on. (Probably the most likely)
The reason I say "created by the elite-ists" is because of as I said in my above post, the amount of pre-programming propaganda relating to this date, is quite significant, even coming from the lips of a leading E.U. representative for climate change (I think he was) stating we have 500 hundred days to avoid "climate chaos", ending on Sept 23rd. Strange choice of words, considering he didn't elaborate on what he meant.

Jase

{Ed033's Note - With 1. A stock market crash is possible because it can be caused to crash by a false flag event such as we saw on 9/11.
The start of WW3 could be any day they like with only a small event happening, because in theory the start of WWI was apparently an assassination.
Forget about the Aliens bit, no aliens are going to do anything.

2. There won't be any real rapture

3. yes, nothing is most likely


 

 

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28 Aug 2015 22:46:13
Thanks for your responses Ed033 and Zari, you both make interesting points. ED, I don't think "Illogical" is the term to describe a number of articles I have read or videos I have watched. They seemed very rational, well thought through, aware of other "alternative views", but just had religious overtones. Thanks again.

Jase

{Ed033's Note - Being religious is not necessary equal to being illogical. You can be illogical and not religious. All i'm saying is that anyone who thinks that on a particular date in the near future, all or some of the human population are going to move into the fifth dimension or the "rapture" is going to happen is illogical and not going to happen.


 

 

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27 Aug 2015 04:02:49
Im really not sure on this one Ed, thanks for your input BTW, as many have said before on this site, I am not a coincidence theorist, and if something does happen next month then it will definitely be no coincidence to what has been predicted. I have a very strange feeling about this date, after everything I have looked into regarding this, and also things I have noticed myself since then, such as the sheer amount of "Apocalypse" propaganda being spread is crazy.

I could probably name 20 TV shows, Films, or Songs that fit into this genre from the past 5 years (more so recently, I have also noticed) Also to completely disregard religious texts is very naive in my opinion, they have as much validity as any piece of work written by so called modern day "philosophers" or "wise men" so to speak. If you truly believe that these elitists are bringing in an "apocalypse" to follow prophecy etc. then surely you can believe that the Bible, that predicted a lot of things that are happening now, (Mark of the beast, increase in earthquakes and extreme weather, and information being transmitted "to and fro" with ease- all predictions from the Bible regarding the "End Times", must have some validity, as also many other predictions from the Bible have also come true (some even to the exact date- regarding the messiahs birth date)

Jase

{Ed033's Note - The following is a catch22 for them. i've said before that around the year 2000 plus or minus 5 years there was a sophistication upgrade for everyone on planet Earth to some degree regardless of age. The cause of this is unknown but it adds an extra problem for the 'elite'.

Most people did nothing with this upgrade ('main-stream-ites') and kept watching mainstream media and playing computer games, which kept them dumbed down and no problem as yet for the 'elite'.

A small group have become more logical, more inquisitive as to what is going on and have used the www to become knowledgable, which is a problem for the elite so the elite have to throw as much dis-info at this group as possible to confuse them into believing things that are true that are not and vice versa. So even though this group wants to be logical, it's difficult to get there.

Another small group have become illogical, new age types and believe in such things as; Messiahs returning, an apocalypse, divine end times scenario, or at any point the whole human race can move into a higher dimension or a divine rapture type scenario could happen at any time. Or that all the 'good' people are going to be taken to a magical realm and all the bad people will be sent to hell or something similar. This group also poses no problem as yet for the 'elite'.

If you think about it, if nothing happens in September, it's possible that a load of the new age types might 'wake up' and move over towards the logical group, which would not suit the elite. But if the elite do try something magical/fantastic in September, then they risk 'waking up' a load of the 'main-stream-ites'.

Most likely, nothing will happen in September and then let's hope some of the illogical, new age types at least try and become logical types.


 

 

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27 Aug 2015 02:32:59
Also zari, why do you celebrate the equinoxs? With all due respect, I thought Sun worship, and astrological worship (saturn etc. ) is primarily an elitist thesis? I don't claim to know much about this subject, but I know enough to understand that this "Saturnalia" and "Sun Worship" along with worship of the "Stars" is an "elite" viewpoint dating back millenia. Now obviously just because its elitist it doesn't mean it has no basis, but I find it curious that you hold the same beliefs as many you claim to hate? Please don't take this as an attack BTW as I only want to learn of your viewpoints on this subject.

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