27 Feb 2020 14:02:36
I don't mind some conspiracies but surely you can't believe flat earth and that space doesn't exist? That's crazy talk. Physics shows us the earth is round but simply, look at the moon, look at the stars. How on earth can the stars not exist? I'm bemused.

{Ed033's Note - And you should be bemused. You can watch some videos on here and if you're still intrigued you can return and watch more videos. If you're not intrigued, then you can call it crazy and leave, it's up to you.

I'll just say 4 things here:

No. 1. The Globe model curvature maths is about 8 inches per mile squared. 1 mile = 8 inches, 2 miles is 2 squared x 8 = 32 inches. 3 miles is 3 squared x 8 = 72 inches.

So, we can see that on the Globe model at some point the curvature of the Earth means we shouldn't see objects miles into the distance.

But what if you have a good zoom camera like a Nikon P900 and someone can zoom into objects that should be hidden by the curvature of the Earth? What if people can zoom into objects that should be hidden by 100s of feet of curvature? This is why people are Globe sceptics.


No 2. What we observe is the further from a light source we are, the dimmer it appears. This can be worked out mathematically using the inverse square law of light. The Heliocentric model has the Moon being around 225,000 miles away, the Sun at around 93 million miles away and all the Stars at over 4 lightyears away.

The problem being if we take the closest of those objects, then the Moon light should be quadrillions of lumens, which is an impossibility. It's no wonder then that some people are thinking that we have a local Moon, local Sun and local Planets and Stars. But we have to call Stars, Luminaries because we have no clue what the 'Stars' we observe are.

Also when we observe the Moon at night with clouds around it, we see the clouds that are immediately around the Moon are very bright and we observe that the clouds that are just a little bit further from the Moon are dark.



No. 3. Why are all the space agencies faking Outer Space? If you don't think they are, watch some videos on here or elsewhere.



No. 4. How is it possible to have the vacuum of outer space, directly next to our pressured atmosphere?

 
27 Feb 2020 21:47:55
Ed, i love all this stuff on this site

I have a quick question.
Have you ever visited an observatory?

Thx.

{Ed033's Note - No. Glad you like this site.

 
27 Feb 2020 22:45:01
Forgive me, I wasn't calling you crazy moreso the idea. I'm not often interested in debates because it's just 2 people trying to make the other believe their view. However, I shall watch how much of the videos you've shared I can bare, before my science knowledge shakes its head at it.

You should read astrophysics for people in a hurry, by Neil degrasse Tyson. He has a chapter called 'on being round' and it very adaquetly explains it I believe.

1. how have you came to the conclusion we shouldn't see objects in the distance? That does not make sense to me unless I'm misunderstanding you.

2. The Sun is 400 times bigger than the moon, yet 400 times further away from the earth than the moon. This is maybe why the moon and sun look the same size. The reason the sun's luminosity is much higher is due to the amount of energy the sun has. It's literally a burning ball of energy while the moon is a chunk of the earth orbiting us.

3. If outer space is being faked, then Elon Musk is wasting a lot of time on his company space x. I have nothing else to say on this, as I could also say the star Sirius doesn't exist, although we can see it.

4. Why can't you have that?

Just to be clear, do you think other planets are flat as well or only earth?

Cheers.

{Ed033's Note - 1. I'm not saying we shouldn't see objects in the distance. If we can see them then we can see them and something is there. Nobody knows how far Stars are away from us, i'm sying they're not lightyears away.

2. Nobody knows whether any of this is correct. It's all theory. This site shows the problems with those theories and shows an alternative.

3. Of course we can see the luminary we call Sirius, but it's not lightyears away, it's local and likely in the Firmament. If Elon Musk wants to be part of the Spac Agencies ,then Space X has to do fake outer space like all other space agencies around the World.

4. Earth is not a planet. The 'planets' are luminaries, i don't now what planets are but they are not flat, the planets move, the Earth is stationary, the Sun, Moon, Planets and Stars move above the Earth. The heliocentric model is an incorrect theory. The heliocentric model has Earth spinning at 1000 miles per hour, Earth rotating around the Sun at 66,000 mph, The Sun moving through the Milkyway at 500,000mph and the Milkyway moving through the Universe at over 1 million mph . And yet there is evidence that Earth is not moving, The Michelson-Morley experiment is devastating to the heliocentric model.

The Earth is a realm fixed in place, doesn't move, doesn't rotate and above it are the Sun, Moon, and Luminaries (Planets and Stars).

 
28 Feb 2020 07:20:12
Standard. I can only speak for myself but it's not a case of believing that the Earth is flat. (And I don't believe anyone on this site has said space doesn't 'exist'. It just doesn't in the form of mainstream perception. )

It is more a case of NASA faking space and the fact there is no photos of the Earth that haven't been run through the 'Blue Marble' framework (basically photoshopping) where they layer 2d images across a globe model.

NASA even sent a 'satellite' into 'space' just to take photos of the Earth. Yet on closer examination, they are still using the 'Blue Marble' 3d model to run the images through. Now why is that? Why not just take a picture and show us the raw image. Why are they altering the image? for what purpose?

NASA also faked the Moon missions. If you care to take the time on these pages you will find the NASA footage they didn't want you to see.

The question of the flat Earth becomes a possibility because of these things.

Then to add weight you have the Antarctic Treaty. You can not go beyond 60 degrees south latitude without permission from higher powers. And then It would be impossible to explore because of the limitations.

The say it is 'pure' down there. But I have seen uninhabited island/ lands strewn with crap from the western world. How does this not get to Antarctica? . I assume all climatic airflow also circumvent this part of our world, as there is no pollution down there?

Basically things just don't add up. I have just posted a video on the 'dogma' of science as we know it. How they make us believe things are fact when it true reality they are no better than unproven theories with no one bit of proof to back it up.

Gravity is something that is also brought up with the flat Earth model. But gravity has a serious flaw. And to cover up this flaw mainstream science has created 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' to patch the glaring holes in this flaw. That's 96% of our supposed Universe. So they have a theory that is 96% incorrect.

Things like this go unnoticed when people just believe what they are told. If you want a serious career in the sciences, you dare not question the dogmatic truth.

I could go on, but I feel my words fall on deaf ears.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds all good to me Southern Monkey, thanks.