15 Mar 2021 12:00:51
It's possible that the Firmament starts at around 70 miles up. Below video at 11 minutes shows 'Sprites' at 70 miles up if you haven't seen it before.

 
15 Mar 2021 12:36:41
Ok,

Watched this and other videos.

Back to history books, if the earth is flat why don't we fall off the edge, what thickness is the earth, and has anyone seen the underside of this flat earth.

At the start of this video question asked why would we be lied to that the earth was a globe.

That is the main question that is relevant to my understanding of the argument.

{Ed033's Note - If people can get this concept that for us to have air pressure, then we have to be in a container (like a Snow Globe), then we don't know what is outside of the container and therefore 'Outer Space' and 'The Universe' is Fictional World that only exists in people's minds.

If people could grasp the idea that pressurised air in our World and the alleged vacuum of 'Outer Space' can't be next to each other without a barrier/container separating them. It doesn't work like that (Only in a Fictional World can that happen).

This means no Man has seen the underside of the Earth or knows the thickness of Earth because there is no way out of the container.

We can't fall of the edge because surrounding the World is the Antarctic ice Wall and some way beyond the Ice Wall is the Dome over us.




Why would we be lied to?
You have to work it our for yourself. One reason is; if we knew it was true, then the the people who think they are the 'Elite Controllers' would have to share the World equally with us and be equals with us and they would probably not be able to carry out their Agendas.

 
15 Mar 2021 15:26:31
There are numerous ways you can observe that the Earth is a globe. For example the moon is a reverse image if you're standing in the southern hemisphere, compared to standing in the northern hemisphere - because you're viewing it upside down!

And why can Polaris not be seen from the Southern Hemisphere? Flatearthers always have a million questions but never any answers!

{Ed033's Note -
Watch video time, because if i try to explain it using text, you won't watch the videos [as usual]. Video 1: Contains Polaris answer, Video 2: Contains Moon answer

Video 1: Contains Polaris answer

 
15 Mar 2021 16:41:01
I was recommended a YouTube channel called godgevlamste from a user here, you should check it out ed. He has a limited number of videos so very easy to find his earliest videos from where he starts out.
His concept of everything is pretty scary but you will definitely find some common ground that's for sure.

Another important video which I had seen a year ago was about vortex mathematics on YouTube, I guess I found it from here may be. How the heck did they figure out the pattern of existence with 369/ 124578 system.

{Ed033's Note - I have seen some of godgevlamste's videos, but how does he explain air pressure?

 
15 Mar 2021 17:24:51
Ok Ed,

So you believe the there is antarctic an ice wall to prevent us falling off the flat earth .

Why then has no one confirmed they have come to the edge of the planet and could go no further.

On the other hand, recent explorers have confirmed they have circumnavigated the earth going from one point and returning to the departure point going through completely different landscapes in the process .
But of course they are part of the cover up society to keep us from knowing the truth.

To insist that the views from satellites and the international space station which can be seen from earth showing videos of the earth slowly rotating are fake is beyond belief in my opinion.
Or is the space station and satellites also fake trickery videos.

The flat earth theory was initiated by early man who only had limited means of transport to explore the planet.

Are you supposing that the flat earth theory goes on to infinity therefore we will never reach the edge in our existence.

The Homer Simpson movie had the dome over Springfield to back up that dome theory, but the outside world was eventually reached.

{Ed033's Note -
1. Why then has no one confirmed they have come to the edge of the planet and could go no further.

A. A number of the governments have put military in place under the Antarctic Treaty to prevent anyone independently exploring past the 60th parallel.

There are these controlled expensive 'holiday' trips people can go on where they take you to a part of the Antarctic Ice Wall that juts out and then they tell people they're at the 'South Pole'.

2. is the space station and satellites also fake trickery videos?

A. Yes, they used to use models and fake video and now they can use CGI as well. If you've seen the Movie Gravity with Sandra Bullock, then you know it's possible to fake the Space Station.

3. Are you supposing that the flat earth theory goes on to infinity therefore we will never reach the edge in our existence?

A. No, i keep telling you that in order to have air pressure we have to be in a container. So, some way past the Antarctic ice wall, you'd hit the Dome.

1958 Encyclopedia Mentions the Firmament Dome:

 
15 Mar 2021 18:12:07
He believes in some sort of barrier/ firmament. His concept is basically the moon being a reflection of the bigger earth on the firmament, our earth being a small crater on the moon surrounded by other craters which are the other planets and star systems.
He has also mapped a small portion of craters with the star/ planets chart in a video.

{Ed033's Note - thanks.

 
15 Mar 2021 19:06:06
Nah,

I've watched the videos trying to prove the earth is flat Ed.

All they have done is convince me the planet earth is a globe.

Next you will be claiming the moon is flat whether or not astronaut's did or did not reach it (a different argument though), and that there is sufficient atmosphere to support our life as it is in the same dome as ours.

The estimated speeds of earths rotation could also be subject to miscalculation by those scientists and so called experts.

Everything you state to be a fact is really unsubstantiated conjecture just like you say all videos of global earth is manufactured trickery.
It could also be said of global theorists as well though.

What proof is there that we are inside a dome (none) .
The atmosphere is like all other matter on earth it is weighted hence the higher we rise the less dense it becomes .
As the matter thins it becomes non existent like the base to the pinnacle of a pyramid.

This cover up conspiracy that Goverment's and the like are hiding the truth is ridiculous .

In any case the real truth will never be revealed in the lifetime of this planet .

Once the sun dies, life on the surface of the earth as we know it will also die just like some other planets around us may have done.

{Ed033's Note - Bluebilly, i'm not expecting you to break out of the Globe mindset in one day. What your saying is what i'd expect any one to think after being initially exposed to alternatives. The fact that you took a look at alternatives is something, i for one respect.

 
15 Mar 2021 22:01:56
Thanks Ed033,

I can see no point in discussing (debating) any subject without checking out both sides of the debate.

As I say the global theory won the debate for me, not that I was brought up to believe specifically that the earth was a ball shape, it was just an everyday assumption that was not brought into debatable doubt.

Yes of course, in general when we think about it in everyday life news space research etc all unwittingly suggest the the earth is a ball shape.

In any case nothing will be proven or disproved during our life on planet earth as human beings.

Was a great entertaining discussion Ed that passed the time for me for which I sincerely thank you.

Cheers mate.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.

 
15 Mar 2021 22:27:31
So do you think NASA put Neil Armstrong and his 11 astronaut buddies on the moon Billy?

 
16 Mar 2021 08:55:54
Hi Rian,

No I don't mate, Eds last replies that the military are guarding the edge of his imaginary flat earth made me realise "he reeled me in".

Rather than making me feel like a mug, he has convinced me these thousands of deluded flat earth campaigners are really crackpots.

I did watch loads of their videos and rather than make me believe, it convinced me 100% our planet is without doubt a ball and Ed had caught me.

It took me a while to realise you were taking the p*ss Ed033, but the military guarding the edge of an imaginary flat earth, really! .

It took me a while Ed before I noted that you dreamed up answers to questions that tried to deflect from you having no proof of your ludicrous suppositions.

Anyway thank you for the conversation and no hard feelings, well done my friend.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, no hard feelings, but i'm not taking the piss. There really is an Antarctic Treaty and part of it is having military preventing people from independently exploring past the 60th parallel.

 
16 Mar 2021 08:59:19
Sorry Rian,

The start of my previous reply looked like I don't believe NASA put men on the moon.

I do believe they did and the non believers are probably flat earth crackpots .

 
16 Mar 2021 12:17:35
Yes Rian I do mate.

 
16 Mar 2021 15:22:37
Fair enough Billy. Thanks for answering.

 
17 Mar 2021 19:10:51
One simple fact proves earth at least appears to be flat in a crater. Trains have to run on completely flat rails or go nowhere.

 
18 Mar 2021 19:31:37
I can't tell if you're serious or just having a laugh.