18 Apr 2022 17:08:11
Is it OK to believe that there have definitely been incidents down thru the years where we have been lied to (everything you mentioned Scouse) but also not think that everything is a conspiracy/lies??
Am I a sheep because I am not sure if certain things are cover-ups? Or maybe I am a sheep because I don't have hours of spare time to do my own investigating into certain events?
I have been coming, and posting, on this conspiracy site since it was created... maybe 10 years ago. It has helped me open my eyes and question things that we are told. Things like the Bohemion Grove, 9/11, 7/7 which I would never have looked into if it wasn't for this site.
However, I also don't think everything is a cover up. Some things are just as they are.
There was an interesting discussion a few months back when there was a crossover between the football and conspiracy pages. It didn't go well at the time. But one of the posters, I forget who, asked some genuine and interesting questions about certain conspiracies. This question wasn't received well on here. Some thought it was mocking everyone on here.
I actually thought different. I had the same thoughts and questions as that individual. I would love to sit in a pub and have a few pints with you regular posters and literally just pick your brains about certain things. See why you think what you do
The last few years has been crazy for me with building a new house and having 2 little boys do the while Covid conspiracy thing has completely passed me by. I just don't have time to look into things the way I used to. Although my line has been drawn on either of my young chaps ever being vaccinated for Covid.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant fellas. I'm a long time reader and poster just not as frequent as I used to be. Would love loads of replies to this to give me even more food for thought!
{Ed033's Note - It's about watching the videos on here. If people watch the videos, then they know the information. What people do with the information is up to them and yes, when they've looked into stuff, then they can think that everything is not a conspiracy/lies.
If you do watch the videos on here, then it's highly likely that that you will realise that we have been lied to about everything.
Why don't you reply on here about something you think we were told the truth about or is not a conspiracy?
18 Apr 2022 18:43:51
Well put Ed, Macko if you watch all the videos you will probably come to the same conclusion as the rest of us on here, that we’ve been lied to, if not then that is a discussion but watch them first and then see how you feel.
{Ed033's Note - Right, look into something before commenting about it.
18 Apr 2022 19:09:11
I have watched some videos Ed and to be fair to you and your posters, the amount of research ye do to find these videos is amazing.
I guess my main issue is just having time for all these videos. Back in the day I would sit down for an hour or 2 and watch all the different theories on 9/11. I didn't agree with all of them but I watched enough to know that we were not given the full story. Far from it... there had to be some governmental involvement in everything that happened.
Please don't think I'm accusing anyone of being a conspiracy theorist on here, in the way the MSM would portray this site and its followers. I would just love some factual evidence on these theories so I could make an educated decision for myself.
Let me give an example...
What is your opinion on the Covid virus?
Did it exist?
Did people die from it?
Is it just the flu 2.0?
Have the vaccines cured it?
Are the vaccines a system invented for monitoring us?
We receive medical information to answer all the above questions. But whos to say they aren't feeding us bull, like ye boys say.
But do I know that the videos that I can watch on here aren't the other side of the argument peddling their own bull version!!
I suppose, as I type this, I feel like am probably at a crossroads with all this stuff. I just yearn for some clean hard facts that will help me make my decision.
Can the thin, weak wings on an aeroplane make that shape hole on the side of a metal building?
Can a fire cause 2 huge skyscrapers to collapse on themselves in a perfect little pile?
WTF went on with Tower 7??
The answer to these questions allowed me to make up my own mind on 9/11. I guess I'm looking for the same guidance on all the other things too
{Ed033's Note - From you:
"The answer to these questions allowed me to make up my own mind on 9/11. I guess I'm looking for the same guidance on all the other things too"
From me:
Then watch the videos, text and web site links on here.
Most people have an average 35 hours of spare time on their hands, you can't tell me, you don't have an average 30 minutes per day to come on this site to watch videos at 1.5 speed on here.
From you:
"I would just love some factual evidence on these theories so I could make an educated decision for myself."
From me:
Then watch the videos, text and web site links on here.
Most people have an average 35 hours of spare time on their hands, you can't tell me, you don't have an average 30 minutes per day to come on this site to watch videos at 1.5 speed on here.
So, stop it; there has been scores of videos and web site links on here about 'Covid' and it culminated so far with the WORLD PREMIERE Documentary: WATCH THE WATER video (below). And if people read the web site text and watched the videos on here, they can then make their own minds up about 'Covid'. [And by the way, we are waiting for a definitive video on the nano tech that is likely also being injected into people.]
19 Apr 2022 13:55:24
Macko, I have found myself genuinely preferring to watch these vids and posts rather than watching TV. I would class myself as an avid film watcher in the past and whereas I still watch the occasional movie from time to time, I honestly prefer to watch the posts and vids that appear on this site (much appreciated Ed). As for guidance I don’t think anyone can guide you other than yourself, have a watch and see what you think. I’m not saying I believe everything I watch but I enjoy watching them all the same. Just after Covid hit I started becoming skeptical about the narrative, things didn’t add up and I found myself watching all sorts of videos. This also led me onto flat earth vids which I’ll be honest, I laughed about before I watched. Once I’d seen a few I found myself questioning everything I’d been taught and a year and half down the line I can honestly say I do not believe in the heliocentric model in the slightest.
Thing is, if you find these vids interesting then you’ll find the time, if you don’t you won’t.
{Ed033's Note - Right, once you know the Globe lie and you know the so called, 'Mudflood' and 'Tartarian' [i prefer saying Atlantis] info, then you know we've been given a false history and fake timeline.
Who doesn't laugh about the Globe lie when they first hear about it.
19 Apr 2022 17:55:00
Ha ha very true Ed, I remember laughing to my wife the evening I was planning to watch a flat earth vid and saying I can’t believe I’m going to watch one. The following morning I remember saying something along the lines of ‘wow, there is definately something to this flat earth theory’.
{Ed033's Note - For me it's certainly way better, knowing we are living inside a Creation of some sort and we're all special, than thinking it's all a random accident and we are just a speck of nothing in an endless 'Universe' of specks of nothing.
19 Apr 2022 19:39:54
Yes there is something spiritually uplifting about it
19 Apr 2022 20:32:42
Macko you're probably one of the very few people on here who've had the vax, so you're probably in a much better position than most of us to know if it has cured C19.
As for 9/11 here's some questions for you to consider asking.
About tower 7 - Larry Silverstein (the owner) said they had to 'pull it'. So they did all that in a couple of hours? The prep for a demolition that size should take weeks. Demolition crews carried explosives into a burning building on 9/11? That would have been filmed right? Where are these daredevil demolition heroes of 9/11 and all their interviews? Where's the movie about the demolition guys who bravely rigged tower 7?
Where did Tower 6 go? And what was in it? And where did that go?
Who are the Naudet brothers? Why was their camera the only one to record the first 'strike'?
What hit the Pentagon? How come a book on a shelf was intact in the impact hole if it was engulfed with jet fuel? The same jet fuel that collapsed the twin towers? How come the only part of the building hit was where servers were storing a lot of info on the missing 2.1 trillion dollars announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11? How come the exit hole was about the size of a cruise missile? How come no major aircraft parts were found? Why can't we see the video from all the hundreds of cctv that surround the pentagon? A couple of seconds of the aircraft hitting the building would shut down the 9/11 truth movement.
Why was there no aircraft at Shanksville? Why has the old 1960's b&w photo of the fissure in the field disappeared from the internet? How come they couldn't excavate a single bone or aircraft part? But they got a passport and an Arab looking scarf?
They 'found' an airliner engine wedged between two buildings near the WTC site years later. It's not from the aircraft that allegedly crashed into the twin towers. So who put it there and why are they claiming it's from 9/11?
Please feel free to answer any of my questions. Like you I have lots.
There are no easy answers to any of this. But you inch closer to the truth as you learn to ask better questions.
Clean hard facts are not going to be handed to you on a platter just because you say you're too busy to do your own research.
20 Apr 2022 22:01:11
Macko, the fact that you are questioning any of their narratives, puts you head and shoulders above most sheep. All I ask of people who are peering into 'rabbit holes', is keep an open and sceptical mind. Start with the opinion it's another lie you're being told, then try to prove it's true. Genuinely think you'll find it's mostly propaganda, spin and lies. Avoid most internet search engines, they censor or hide results that don't fit the narrative. I use Brave, I'm sure the Ed can suggest others.?
{Ed033's Note - duck duck go search engine
21 Apr 2022 20:18:18
I recently heard they were going to start censoring searches??
{Ed033's Note - Not surprised.
21 Apr 2022 20:19:55
Duck Duck Go is censoring
{Ed033's Note - interesting, thanks Scouseduckred.