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22 Jun 2021 21:11:49
There seems to be a complete misunderstanding of the hospital position. My other half is a nurse and up to the vaxs coming out there were wards full of C.V. patients. The hospital was not as full overall because:
1) Lockdown meant less accidents and a&e was not as busy
2) Possible C.V. cases were not seen in a&e but taken direct to designated 'Red wards' to prevent any spread
3) All non essential operations were cancelled to free up capacity and prevent cross infection.

So there were empty areas due to no operations, specialised wards closed for appointments whilst they concentrated on C.V. and stopping cross infections.

To say the hospitals were empty is not just untrue but also disrespectful to the many medical professionals who caught and died from C.V. in the early months of the C.V., my gf knew nurses who had died.

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - Here's part of my take:

1. The 'Germ theory' part saying people can 'catch' a virus, spread a virus and infect others with a virus is incorrect.

2. The alleged Covid 'virus' has not been physically isolated. The alleged Covid 'virus' is 'in silico' meaning it's a computer simulation. What happened is that various 'labs' around the World, made a computer simulation of their guess of a 'virus' and then they all came to a consensus on which computer simulation was the best pretend genome of the pretend virus. That became the pretend isolated 'virus'.

3. The Covid test is a fake test, which gives fake positives. Even if they use the PCR test, the PCR test is being run at a known too high cycle rate. And even if there was a true test for a virus, it would be the pretend computer simulation 'virus' tested for, which doesn't exist in living beings.

4. No one can justify this swab up the nose to touch the brain, then twisting the swab after touching the brain as part of the fake test. This seems to be about depositing something against the brain.

5. Every patient in hospital gets this fake test and if they get a fake positive, they are classed as a 'Covid' patient even though they are there for some other reason like Cancer, organ failure, heart problems, pnemonia. So the Nurses are going to think there are Wards of Covid patients and as the Nurses think the The 'Germ theory' is correct, then they are going to do this whole, preventing cross infection routine.

6. It appears there is/was especially early on, a new respiratory problem a small amount of people were suffering from in hospital. Some of those people were having panic attacks and some people had a genuine respiratory problem. But this was never investigated, so we don't know what that is. But that respiratory problem can apparently be treated successfully using Hydroxychloroquine + zinc + z-pac or better still, Ivermectin. But there is no point giving a Covid patient who actually has organ failure, Ivermectin and then saying, Ivermectin don't work because they're still ill and still tested positive for 'Covid'.

7. Colds and Flus can make you ill, wearing the masks can make you ill, the psychological warfare techniques from the media/government can make you ill and it's possible that this up the nose test can make you ill. And if people then take the fake test and receive a fake positive, then they think they have 'Covid'.

8. Early on, in order to get the 'Plandemic' going, they carried out a number of different things in order to get a load of deaths going in Hospitals and Care homes?


1.) 23 Jun 2021 00:39:41
I've read ed033 response several times and I'm still in disbelief. So you are saying it's more likely that masks and psychological warfare are making people ill then a C.V.. What do the goverment/ people in charge have to gain from this. Given the amount they've had spend fighting this, covering wages etc it makes no sense. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe what's happening is the truth then to concoct some half baked idea with zero proof. If what you are saying is factual, provide some proof.

{Ed033's Note - In order to comprehend why i say what i say, you have to watch the videos on here and read the articles. If you don't, then you have no clue what i'm saying because you don't have enough knowledge.

If you go back 24 pages on here and watch all of the videos and read all the articles, then you may not agree with everything i say, but you'll know why i say the things i say.

I'll put it as simply as i can for you; it's about total control. And all our lives, it's only been about total control.


2.) 23 Jun 2021 06:54:31
I know nurses who had to take time off work because it was so quiet.

{Ed033's Note - Somebody was spending a lot of time learning choreographed dancing


3.) 23 Jun 2021 06:57:38
I have plenty of knowledge. I've seen the video's too. None provide anywhere close to evidence of whatbyoy say. You are spreading poor information which is providing harm to others.


4.) 23 Jun 2021 08:52:31
So why did all the staff and people at the g7 not isolate? Why when the cameras went off were they hugging and taking masks off? Why aren't any footballers self isolating?

As for destroying the economy you do realise it's just numbers on a screen? The real wealth is assets such as properties and land which they all own.

If you really can't see you're being had by the elites and losing your rights I feel bad for you.

I guess you also believe the official 911 narrative that some crazed Muslims screaming death to the west attacked us for no reason other than hating our culture? Ignoring the fact that bush senior made millions out of the carrilion arms contracts, the fact bin Laden was a trained cia agent and that the towers went down like a controlled demolition instead of snapping in half? Or what about the third tower I imagine you've never heard of that?

Open your mind and stop believing the crap you see on the news. The world is a big stage to manipulate you and keep you as a slave forever.

Also please read Stanley Johnson's books on depopulation then you might see where this agenda is heading.

{Ed033's Note - Good questions and thanks for the Stanley Johnson book recommendation.


5.) 23 Jun 2021 09:59:16
liverpoolmanc you are spreading information that are leading people to destruction and complete slavery. in a few years time if you have survived the vax you will understand you were wrong when you can't even go for a sit down in the loo without permission or being watched.

{Ed033's Note - Right.


6.) 23 Jun 2021 12:23:31
Also, i meant to say, why aren't the footballers coming over for the euros isolating as I'm aware a Scot isolated even though his team never. Yeah that makes sense.

{Ed033's Note - Right, Unless you're in an agreement/contract, the C.V. 'rules' are only recommendations or requests; meaning we all can decide for ourselves.


7.) 23 Jun 2021 12:41:13
'You are spreading poor information which is providing harm to others.'

You should put that on a placard and stand outside your local vax centre.

{Ed033's Note - Yes.


8.) 23 Jun 2021 12:50:37
Also why are France, Germany, USA and China fully open without a vax? Are people actually oblivious to anything that isn't spoon fed to them through the BBC? Watched the UFC last weekend in USA all fully seated stadiums with no masks and no vaxs.


9.) 23 Jun 2021 13:31:20
Wow, your knowledge knows no bounds. I Suppose you all have degrees in medicine or specialise in genetics. Perhaps you fear the fact life and the world has random, uncontrolled events. You want there to be an explanation about everything and when you can't rationally explain why something has happened, you blame it on a supreme controlling state etc.

{Ed033's Note - i don't see why you are on this site. You can't get anything out of being on this site. This site is clearly not for you.


10.) 23 Jun 2021 17:14:03
Surely both sides of the argument should be put forward. Considering this is a talk site. I feel that those reading some of the "info" you put in here need to be told other people's views, considering what some might say are dangerous "facts" you are trying to put forward.

{Ed033's Note - Good luck with your Booster shots.


11.) 23 Jun 2021 17:44:29
Considering they will save lives, I don't need luck. Those that need luck are those that refuse the jab for non medical/ religous reasons. I hope your fake news doesn't cost someone their life. I'd hate to have that on my conscience.


12.) 23 Jun 2021 18:23:34
A C.V. so devastating 1 in 3 have no symptoms and you have to get a test to know you have it? Sounds devastating.

Answer this then where did the flu go this year? Just disappeared did it? Or did they not combine the flu and C.V. statistics to warp people like yours brains and terrify them into believing it was real.

Combining the flu and C.V. statistics it was still at a five year low.

Also, as for medical experts, you do realise most qualified people just learn from books and lectures and are told what is truth and what isn't. A friend of mine has a master's in biochemistry and only the top of the pile know the real information. anything else is just spoon fed to these so called experts. Sort of like kids in school with a teacher?

Are you drawing any parallels yet or are you still choosing to be an ignoramus?


13.) 23 Jun 2021 18:41:57
This year's flu was reduced due to social distancing, increased hygiene and masks. Very straight forward really. As for C.V. being fake. Go speak to a family that has lost someone due it. I suppose the 128k C.V. deaths are fake, crisis actors or normal deaths are they? Do you really think governments across the world would let their economies crash for the reasons you are claiming. Explain how they roped in every medical doctor and nurse working for the nhs for something that was not real.

Do you think are would just along with it. How about nurses that work in icu that have watched people die every day. You are being very careless with what you are saying. Provide one piece of evidence proving this is fake. I bet you can't.


14.) 23 Jun 2021 20:49:09
Provide any evidence it's real? I was in the hospital during the peak and a nurse was telling me it's ridiculous but they've no choice to wear the masks. You obviously have no financial background otherwise you'd know that money is nothing but worthless numbers on a screen as I previously posted. Crashing the economy benefits the elites you do realise that?

The UK and USA government murdered over 250k kids in Iraq never mind adults yet you think they care about you?

You're chattle, just a number on a screen and you need to realise we are now worthless with ai and computers taking over. By 2030 the elites massive plan date. Everything will be autonomic so what are we going to do with the 9 billion people who will be jobless and money less?

Show me any proof that they aren't using this so called C.V. to transfer wealth to the elites and shut down any chattles freedoms.

You've been conned big time mate and I feel sorry for you they have to cull the population for the greater good in there eyes otherwise the resources will run out regardless.

This C.V. is nowhere near as dangerous as it's being made out to be. Will you at least accept that? It's a nothing, just like the flu it only affects the weak and vulnerable.


15.) 23 Jun 2021 21:06:49
Theres a vegetable on the loose it seems.


16.) 23 Jun 2021 21:31:26
128k deaths within 28 days of a C.V. 19 positive results.

{Ed033's Note - hi southampton, haven't seen you post in a while


17.) 23 Jun 2021 21:40:11
So bad most had minor flu symptoms
And others had no idea they had it

WHO declassified C.V. 19 from a highly infectious disease
Was on gov website

All these different variations
Wasn't quite what BBC said they where
Where they

People who had C.V. before built anti body's against disease
Witch can then have big implications if u then have vax

vaxs didn't even pass animal testing
Think it turns out if same happens to humans as did mice
U could have a lovely 5 years

Some professionals say mRNA vaxs can alter DNA

Check out the great Barrington declaration
And what the doctors involved have to say about it

Check out what Deloris Cahill has to say.


18.) 23 Jun 2021 21:40:23
liverpoolmanc no we do not have medical degrees but those thousands upon thousands of scientists and doctors who have signed petition's against this do and are being ignored by the media tell it to the family's of the people who have died with the vax or suffered serious health issue to it that the vax is saving life's tell the people who have had there business ruined due to lockdowns and are in finical ruin wile those who impose lockdowns wealth is going through the roof.

tell the family's of the old people who were genocide in the old folks homes left to die old alone and afraid with the order put out to let them die by the government do not intervene tell there family's its for the greater good.

tell the family's of those who took there life's due to mental health caused by lockdowns it was for the greater good

tell the family's of those refused cancer treatment who sadly passed away because of it that it was for the greater good

maybe get in touch with the Spanish doctor who says live on Spanish news that it was a lie and the hospitals were empty and not overflowing then he was cut of.

or maybe the Italian doctor who put a video out saying stay away from the vax it will destroy your health.

you ask for proof this page is full of proof but the news and the government already have your mind its really sad that you will being going down the path there taking you down and i want to see no one go down that path i have family remembers who laughed at me when i told them about the vax i have a aunt regretting taking it now and she has been ill ever since same with a uncle. you could maybe check the official GOVERMENT site were they put on it just before lockdown that they now class CV as a non concensose infectious disease don't know if that's spelt right but putting it plainly that means its nothing to worry about.


19.) 23 Jun 2021 22:25:10
Didn't think I'd get a reply. You chosen few who think You are "woke" and have an understanding that billions are blinded to. Of course, the earth is flat, there used to be mile plus high trees, there is a secret goverment working in the back ground, there are lizard people, the twin towers were fake, the moon landings were fake etc etc. Just listen to what you are saying.

All of that is more believable then what we are told. Mass shootings are crisis actors, need I go on. Again, I ask for proof of any of this and I mean actual proof, not just some ramblings of someone on YouTube. Prove one thing that anyone has said on this site that is beyond any doubt. I await your response.

{Ed033's Note - i think you've got a spike-protein loose.


20.) 23 Jun 2021 22:31:41
You can lead a horse to water.


21.) 23 Jun 2021 23:35:56
Hi ed33
How's u been
I do pop in every now and then just been busy lately.
Hello everyone else to.

{Ed033's Note - i'm ok thanks.


22.) 24 Jun 2021 00:13:46
Liverpoolmanc, let's go back to the beginning and you state your fact on where C.V. came from? You have all the answers because it's in the news. And a vax has been created for it. Still a trial vax with companies exempt from any side effects. The numbers on the news daily would give you the amount of deaths that day followed by a strapline saying that the number is for people who have tested positive for C.V. in the last 28 days! The media is giving you the information, what does it say? It's not telling you that those people who died that day all died of C.V. is it?

When you have a moment look at Event 201 C.V. simulation carried out October 2019 (I know the date is ironic isn't it? Bill had a crystal ball that month) backed by the Gates foundation, which includes actions of agreement by worlds media groups, governments and social media of controlled messages in favour of actions vaxs and swift action against the message. If only this page was titled common sense page, instead your mind is in the asylum of the main news which is run by the lunatics.


23.) 24 Jun 2021 00:58:44
Liverpoolmanc where's your proof? Seeing as it's happened then back up your talk. I'd like you to point out which countries are bankrupt like you said.
Also your explanation for the flu numbers which are non existent, you say are down to face masks (masks don't protect you do they, they protect other, you do read the news), increased hygeine, (my hygiene has always been good thanks) Oh and lock down? Unfortunately your facts/ opinion falls down as many countries weren't following all your above theories at any one time. There was obviously some sort of imaginary flu barrier. Clearly you believe that all news around the world is 100% factually true.


24.) 24 Jun 2021 08:59:18
liverpoolmanc you completely ignored everything i wrote. well here is something else for you the Iraq war were millions lost there life the bbc news went into overdrive with propaganda for a reason to invade which in the end up proved to be false tony Blair admitted himself the info was wrong and it was a mistake something he had to say for the cameras. people like him had no problem with millions losing there life to full fill there goal these people who you trust now are destroying millions upon millions of life's just now so why would they care about you just now they have killed millions already in fake wars to gain control of these country's to achieve there goals.

there leading you a merry dance mate and you like to try come on here and belittle the people who try to wake you up to what there like. as i says this page is full of proof you choose to ignore it. answer this why does the common man need to pay 1700 pounds on arrival in the country to stay in a isolation centre and we also have to social distance and wear masks in bars etc but the so called leaders of the G7 summit do not have to isolate and can just fly into the country and through cocktail party's and hug and have a good jolly so if this is a C.V. so deadly then they to must have to isolate and wee joe bidden being his age would be telling people to stand back in fear of his life but no he is hugging away after telling the people his country to not hug and wear masks surely he must be afraid of this killer C.V. he is very old and frail the queen also at the funeral of Phillip when the cameras for the news were there sits alone social distancing then at the summit standing next to everyone who has just flown in from other country's when the news cameras are not there surely she must be afraid of this killer C.V. at her age also. i believe you are too far gone mate but i leave you a seed its up to yourself to water it.

{Ed033's Note - Liverpoolmanc is a lost Soul.


25.) 24 Jun 2021 16:57:52
Liverpoolmanc, I have read this thread with great interest, so I would like to just add, my own take on this.
Mainstream media is the single biggest disseminator of the many falsehoods regarding the “conspiracy theory”.   as a matter of historical fact, the msm has published countless false conspiracy theories with the explicit purpose of misleading the people.

Most of the pharmaceutical companies have been fined millions and millions of pounds for lies, doctors have received kickback for years, telling patients lies about drugs.

People on here, hear + read something and then they research it, so we like to think of ourselves, more as bull analysts.
You either take it onboard or ignore it, the choice is yours mate.

{Ed033's Note - Thanks dave.


 

 

 

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29 Oct 2021 21:27:45
TJ70 I would be interested in your evidence or source that the moon is a light source? Because the moon is a massive rock like the earth. The reason why the sun gives us light is because it is undergoing a fusion reaction and the results of that reaction is photons getting emitted.

If you want to get technical, everything does give of light, but not visible light. Any blackbody that has heat emits electromagnetic radiation. For humans, we emit light in the infrared spectrum, which is why thermal imaging works on people. The higher the temperature, the higher the frequency.

In other words, the moon gives off low energy light but the moon is not nearly hot enough to emit visible light. The material on the lunar surface reflect the light from the sun to shine.

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - Been pointed out on here before, If the Moon is reflecting light, and it's a ball. Why is there no hotspot?

However to get some true science going, we might first want to measure the Lux or Lumens being outputted from the Moon?


 

 

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29 Oct 2021 21:20:53
I have a question for Ed and the flat earthers. I don’t believe this theory but I also don’t believe everything I’m told and am prepared to listen to the other side of an argument and have watched all the videos posted here. However, the flat earth videos do contain a lot of contradictions and bad science. For example, many I have seen state the sun and moon are in fact only about 4 miles above us. Some of these same videos then also say that we have never visited the moon and can’t get out of near earth orbit.

Now I don’t believe in flat earth or the moon conspiracy, but if their assertions are true then

1) Standard air flights are at 5-7 miles up, so we would be flying above the sun and moon

2) Referring back to point 1, there would be no near earth orbit as our planes are already above the moon and so could presumably land on it :)

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - If you had watched all the videos posted here, you would be aware that it's most likely that the Sun and Moon that we see are projections / reflections.

If the Earth is a Spinning/moving Globe, then we'd have to account for it, please come up with one thing on Earth where we have to account for curvature and one thing on Earth where we have to account for Earth's spin/movement?


 

 

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29 Oct 2021 21:07:56
The moon does not create light, it reflects sunlight. When the moon lies between the Earth and the Sun, it is only the back side of the moon that is lit by the Sun. In this situation the side of the moon facing the Earth is not able to reflect any light at all and appears dark.

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - This is repeating the mainstream version, we try to use our own brains on here.


 

 

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29 Oct 2021 18:22:28
You are being unfair to Standard Ed, what you are saying is not correct. It may seem preposterous that with the photon model of light that a large shell of emitted electrons would eventually get so thinned out after light-years of travel they would still be visible or detectable even. But brightness is what diminishes, not the photons themselves. If even a couple photons per second from that point in the sky make it to your eye, then it's visible. The more photons, the more brightness. It will never be zero. Out of 300 billion stars in the Milky Way only about 9,000 stars are close enough and bright enough to be visible to the naked eye. That is brighter than magnitude 6.5, the traditional criterion for naked-eye visibility.
In total their combined light isn't much. Their combined magnitude is almost exactly –5. The Sun is 487,530,000 times brighter than the 9000 visible stars in total which says that the light from these 9000 stars is 0.0000002 % of the total starlight hitting the Earth.

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - Let's take this step by step. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but everyone:

Specifically, why don't we see the New Moon?


 

 

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30 Sep 2020 19:11:29
Just watched the Paul Weston video and he seems to fall into the same trap as what he is accusing the government of. His argument that false positive tests should be discounted seems reasonable, however, on this basis then we should also discount false negatives to be balanced. The number of false negatives, which could actually be positive, is said to be between 2% and 20%. If like Paul, we use the lower figure then what we deduct on one side then we are just adding back on the other. I agree that the tests aren’t conclusive, but this works both ways.

DavidMK

{Ed033's Note - I'm guessing the government just makes up the numbers anyway. If the 'tests' don't show the numbers the government wants/is told to show, then of course the government are just going to make up the numbers they want.

The problem is that only 'Awake' people think the government would make up numbers.


 

 

 

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