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22 Feb 2020 00:24:05
There seems to be a lot of talk of the world not being round. That may have been tongue in cheek but was hard to gauge. I mean, it definitely is. Be a bit odd if everything visible in space was round except our earth.

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{Ed033's Note - If people were to watch all the videos of the last 8 pages of this site, they would have an idea of what i'm saying here.

So Obama, Trump and I've heard 2 people who are pretending to be astronauts on the International Space Station say that we are stuck in 'low Earth orbit'. This 'low Earth orbit' is apparently up to 350 miles above Earth. The problem with this is the Moon is allegedly around 225,000 miles from Earth, so if they got to the Moon, it must be within 350 miles of the Earth?

Also, why would they be limited to a maximum 350 miles away from Earth?

They are saying that outer space is a vacuum, the problem with this is that it's physically impossible to have the alleged vacuum of outer space directly next to Earth's atmosphere.

If there is a vacuum of outer space, then Earth would have to be inside a pressurised container. Is it possible then that the Crystal Firmament is the top part of the container?

If the Crystal Firmament is blocking us from going beyond it, then the, stuck in 'low Earth orbit' makes sense.

Now what about the stars and the planets? If we realise that under the inverse square law of light that it would be physically impossible to see any star that is light years away from us, then it makes sense that they are much closer and likely to be within the Firmament.

If the Firmament is real and the 'stars' and 'planets' are luminaries within the Firmament then there maybe no actual Outer Space, as we don't know what is beyond the Firmament.

If people are into astrology and think the planets and stars have some sway over us, wouldn't it make more sense if they were close to us. How can anything light years away from us have any affect on us?

Putting this together, the Earth is a realm fixed in place, doesn't move, doesn't rotate and above it are the Sun, Moon, and Luminaries (Planets and Stars).


1.) 22 Feb 2020 13:48:23
Perhaps 350 miles is the distance to which the earth's gravitational pull has an effect on the space station.

I have zero belief in astrology, just as much truth in tea leaves.

{Ed033's Note - What those 4 were saying is that none of the space agencies can send rockets or Space Shuttles past 350 miles out from Earth.


2.) 22 Feb 2020 15:53:05
Hi. I also do not believe in the flat earth idea. Peoples beliefs are their own choice but I think it is disingenuous to claim proofs that are in fact nothing of the sort. A few points. None of those quoted suggested we could not leave low earth orbit. In fact Trump has announced NASA returning to the moon and plans for Mars. Obama was behind deep space unmanned missions. No one has returned to the moon on a manned mission due to cost and because we have been there and have no reason to return. The inverse square of light explains how and why we do see stars, not that it is impossible to do so. Our eyes only need to pick up 1 proton for the light to be visible. We can only see 9000 of the 300 billion stars in the Milky Way with our naked eye and the inverse law is the explanation for this. If the earth is flat then how can I see the sun rise and set over the ocean, moving in and out of view? And if the earth was flat and I looked out at empty ocean from the west coast of a USA or south coast of Australia then surely I would see the Antarctic Ice walls apparently surrounding us?

{Ed033's Note - I'm not expecting anyone to go from mainstream to where this site is now without people going step by step by watching the videos posted on here over the last 8 pages.

So, they have stated that there is a reason to go back to the Moon, to mine minerals such as Helium 3, and the profits would offset the cost.

Yes, we can see luminaries that people call stars with our naked eyes, i'm saying they're hundreds of miles way at most in the Firmament not light years away.

The sun doesn't rise and set over the ocean, it moves away from you until you can't see it and then moves towards you until you can see it. You would need to watch 1 or more videos about it.

We can only see so far over the ocean with our naked eyes. If you use a zoom camera you can see further, if you use a zoom camera with infra red, you can see even further, but there is a limitation due to stuff in the air such as debris, water vapour, physical atmosphere and perspective; as you look further the way we see with perspective, so much visible info is crammed into a small amount of space, that you can't determine what you're seeing.

Nowadays we have zoom cameras that can see objects that should be hidden by hundreds of feet of curvature. That is a serious dent in the Globe model of Earth.


Never been beyond 'Low Earth Orbit' NASA, ISS and Obama examples from 2016:


3.) 22 Feb 2020 19:54:08
Of course the world is round! I thought you guys were joking. No offence intended, its up to you. But weathermen and women show us satellite pictures all day every day. It's how we knew about storm Dennis. They don't always get it right, but they're not bad. The strength of telescopes is a mathematical science, you can literally pay to go and see for yourself, things that are hundreds of thousands of miles away.

Nothing will sway me from the knowledge that the earth is spherical. Because something is written on the Internet, doesn't make it true.
Virgin are already readying space tourism.

And what is proffesor Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore about? Are they agents of darkness spreading lies about the nature of reality? Or are they highly educated men, who have studied for years and years. What possible reason would there be for such an in depth conspiracy.

And I refuse to believe coxy is a liar. His enthusiasm is infectious and many people watch him just for that reason.

Go on Google earth. Keep heading east or west, doesn't matter, you will end up in the same spot.

Sometimes you can focus so strongly on a small part of the jigsaw that you miss the big picture.

Religion, or Christianity at any rate, once ruled the Western world. Its answers to the mystery of life was so appealing that people still believe it in the 21st century. But it was toppled by the world being round.

It proved that heaven and hell were not physically possible. There are so many sites where you can zoom out from you current position and see the earth as round.

If we can see stars that are millions of miles away, billions. Then how is it that we can't see the sun when it's a few thousand miles away.

I know you guys don't care, and I'm sure you have discovered the odd conspiracy out there. But anyone who thinks the world is flat is literally mental. I'm really sorry to say it. This stuff is interesting.

And why are there thousands of images of the spherical earth and none of this flat existence. You know there's no up and down in space? That's a product of gravity.

Sometimes it feels like this is the main problem flat earthers have. An inability to think in the abstract. As if this is the centre of the universe (it is if you believe in infinity)

{Ed033's Note - If you watch the videos over the last 8 pages, you can comprehend why i say the following things (doesn't mean what i say below is 100% accurate):

Yes, the world is probably round, but not a sphere.

All satellites are attached to high altitude balloons, there are no satellites orbiting the Globe.

No satellite has given a whole picture of the Earth. A satellite can only photo small strips of Earth and then they use Photoshop to put the strips together and wrap them round an imaginary globe. No satellite attached to a high altitude helium balloon can go high enough up to take a whole picture of the Earth.

There is probably no such thing as hundreds of thousands of miles above Earth as the Firmament is as far as there is.

This site is here for people to learn new things, if you're not on here to learn, why are you here? This is not a competition site i.e. mainstream vs this site.

Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore they repeat(ed) mainstream science stuff and get/got paid for it.

Stars aren't light years away, they are a few hundred miles away at most in the Firmament.

The reason for such an in depth conspiracy is because there is a huge difference between thinking you're an insignificant nothing in a huge universe as opposed to being extremely significant and living inside a wondrous creation.


4.) 22 Feb 2020 19:58:01
In my opinion,
When I look at stars I see a weird shape light even in telescope.
Not a ball.
And the moon is a round object that doesn't have a spot of intense light, like a ball does with a light shined on it and light tapering away to edges.
Only place I see a perfect ball is in space books and T.v but its cgi.
And the space station should be called atmosphere station lol.
Well it's not in space is it?

{Ed033's Note - The people acting on the ISS are not in space. All the lady actors On the ISS have to take a load of hairspray with them to pretend they're in zero gravity.

Yes when you zoom into stars you see this type of thing in the following video. Each star is different.


5.) 22 Feb 2020 22:44:55
Hi Ed, I have an unproven theory but that may make sense if you think about it it may explain all your questions. If you think of the earth as a multi layered infinite flat disc or oemebus (spelling) loop with our reality existing within our time frame and each layer an infinite reality you can therefore see as far as you need with your zoom lens, and also explains the existence of ghosts the Loch Ness monster and big foot, they all exist but on another reality. If you think about the cartoon movement by the quick flicking of the pages then the image you see is whole and moving but in reality is multiple stationary realities but existing together as a single entity.
I hope that helps you understand the universe
Big C.


6.) 22 Feb 2020 23:59:50
If it helps further think of the old paper Christmas decorations that you buy as a flat semicircle but when you open it it forms a sphere of layers of paper all connected think of that but with infinite number of layers all separate but connected each with the earth as many see it on each side of the paper ie flat maps each running at their own time in history or future or present, then think of the multipaged pad with the cartoon of the one image moving but stationary on each page then think what happens when pages flick slower so the images get merged or conversely when a number of pages stick together and the image jumps from one view to another and apply that to the Christmas decoration of the earth, ghosts and the Loch Ness monster are thus explained By the slow flicking and earthquakes and extreme weather by the pages stuck together .


7.) 23 Feb 2020 15:16:59
Big c
Lol what a load of waffle.
At least put an a fake terror attack in there.
And what did u stick your pages together with! ?

Sorry u get so wound up by the flat earth conspiracy dude.
But when u actually look at the evidence that can not be messed with.
That this place ain't muffin shaped but, a perfect ball u see in images
That ain't cgi.
There not much left
Anyway people can speak or question what they like without someone jumping in with stick tabs .
Take it easy.


8.) 23 Feb 2020 21:04:47
Hi Southampton I was putting forward an alternative reality and if one is valid then all must be until proven otherwise, I like my theory of infinite flat discs each belonging to a different time and if you think about it, it would meet with your flat earth theory but also proffers an opportunity to move through time and would make ghosts and people seeing Victorian streets Scenes in Liverpool Bold Street.
Also if you haven’t read the Long Earth by terry pratchett I would recommend giving it a go
Big C.


9.) 23 Feb 2020 23:20:48
Ok.


10.) 23 Feb 2020 23:23:18
Alright big c.

If I come across evidence to back your theory ill post it .
Till then ill read the long earth.


11.) 24 Feb 2020 00:24:42
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. " - Nikola Tesla.


12.) 24 Feb 2020 08:29:07
Hi again Southampton just a follow on firstly the long earth by prattchet is a work of fiction but isn’t all fiction twists and based on reality whatever that is . Also search time slip Liverpool bold street by Tom Slemen, who has collected a number of accounts of this phenomenon. Anyway hope you in enjoy the book . Keep your mind open
Big C.


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2020 19:54:08
Of course the world is round! I thought you guys were joking. No offence intended, its up to you. But weathermen and women show us satellite pictures all day every day. It's how we knew about storm Dennis. They don't always get it right, but they're not bad. The strength of telescopes is a mathematical science, you can literally pay to go and see for yourself, things that are hundreds of thousands of miles away.

Nothing will sway me from the knowledge that the earth is spherical. Because something is written on the Internet, doesn't make it true.
Virgin are already readying space tourism.

And what is proffesor Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore about? Are they agents of darkness spreading lies about the nature of reality? Or are they highly educated men, who have studied for years and years. What possible reason would there be for such an in depth conspiracy.

And I refuse to believe coxy is a liar. His enthusiasm is infectious and many people watch him just for that reason.

Go on Google earth. Keep heading east or west, doesn't matter, you will end up in the same spot.

Sometimes you can focus so strongly on a small part of the jigsaw that you miss the big picture.

Religion, or Christianity at any rate, once ruled the Western world. Its answers to the mystery of life was so appealing that people still believe it in the 21st century. But it was toppled by the world being round.

It proved that heaven and hell were not physically possible. There are so many sites where you can zoom out from you current position and see the earth as round.

If we can see stars that are millions of miles away, billions. Then how is it that we can't see the sun when it's a few thousand miles away.

I know you guys don't care, and I'm sure you have discovered the odd conspiracy out there. But anyone who thinks the world is flat is literally mental. I'm really sorry to say it. This stuff is interesting.

And why are there thousands of images of the spherical earth and none of this flat existence. You know there's no up and down in space? That's a product of gravity.

Sometimes it feels like this is the main problem flat earthers have. An inability to think in the abstract. As if this is the centre of the universe (it is if you believe in infinity)

Robbiesline

{Ed033's Note - If you watch the videos over the last 8 pages, you can comprehend why i say the following things (doesn't mean what i say below is 100% accurate):

Yes, the world is probably round, but not a sphere.

All satellites are attached to high altitude balloons, there are no satellites orbiting the Globe.

No satellite has given a whole picture of the Earth. A satellite can only photo small strips of Earth and then they use Photoshop to put the strips together and wrap them round an imaginary globe. No satellite attached to a high altitude helium balloon can go high enough up to take a whole picture of the Earth.

There is probably no such thing as hundreds of thousands of miles above Earth as the Firmament is as far as there is.

This site is here for people to learn new things, if you're not on here to learn, why are you here? This is not a competition site i.e. mainstream vs this site.

Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore they repeat(ed) mainstream science stuff and get/got paid for it.

Stars aren't light years away, they are a few hundred miles away at most in the Firmament.

The reason for such an in depth conspiracy is because there is a huge difference between thinking you're an insignificant nothing in a huge universe as opposed to being extremely significant and living inside a wondrous creation.


 

 

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22 Feb 2020 13:48:23
Perhaps 350 miles is the distance to which the earth's gravitational pull has an effect on the space station.

I have zero belief in astrology, just as much truth in tea leaves.

Robbiesline

{Ed033's Note - What those 4 were saying is that none of the space agencies can send rockets or Space Shuttles past 350 miles out from Earth.


 

 

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22 Feb 2020 00:19:09
Surely even across the Atlantic ocean the curvature of the earth plays a big part.
We all know the world is a sphere right?

Robbiesline

{Ed033's Note - It appears it can't be proven to be a sphere and all observations seem to show it's not a sphere. Before the early 1900s, it was taught in schools that the Earth was flat. Wherever has anbody observed curved water?


 

 

 

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