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21 Feb 2020 07:43:26
Was the Ionosphere invented to try to explain Marconi's 2135 mile first transatlantic radio signal that was considered impossible due to the alleged curvature of the Earth?

And how do you bounce signals off of air in the part of the atmosphere they call the Ionosphere? It would at least make more sense to say we can bounce signals off the crystal Firmament.

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21 Feb 2020 18:56:34
For the signal to be constant u would assume it would have to hit something more than atmosphere.

{Ed033's Note - yes that's what i would have thought, but the mainstream science are saying they bounce signals off thin air in the sky in this made up region called ionosphere?

But if you don't have the curvature of the Earth, then over the flat ocean, you can send the signals without bouncing off anything because you have straight line of sight.

Over land is different as you have the petrified fauna and flora (hills and mountains), slag heaps and volcanos in the way of straight line of sight signals. So overland, do they bounce some signals off satellites attached to high altitude balloons or do they bounce some signals off the Crystal Firmament?

21 Feb 2020 20:32:27
Agree land is a total different ball game because of what u have listed.
In regards to the ocean u would have to take into account size of waves above sea level I would guess.
In regards to the satellites I can only see them working as a ballon type configuration.

{Ed033's Note - yeah, but if you have transmission stations high above sea level, that should take care of waves on a normal day.

21 Feb 2020 20:35:52
That video posted the other day from above the storm was something to see.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, it actually may have shown us the Firmament.

21 Feb 2020 22:09:30
Yes that is realistic,
If u go above wave height there should be no obstructions to stop a signal being sent straight across.

And to me when I see that video I looked as though a jelly fish type shape appeared after the lighting lol.
Unless that was some sort of pixel mix up on my device.

{Ed033's Note - It could have been some kind of plasma or electrical or electro magnetic event.

22 Feb 2020 00:19:09
Surely even across the Atlantic ocean the curvature of the earth plays a big part.
We all know the world is a sphere right?

{Ed033's Note - It appears it can't be proven to be a sphere and all observations seem to show it's not a sphere. Before the early 1900s, it was taught in schools that the Earth was flat. Wherever has anbody observed curved water?

23 Feb 2020 11:02:11
The miniscus on top of an over full glass, raindrops,

20 Feb 2020 21:07:45
YT is throwing up some random videos, of late.

Not watch the whole video, but it made me laugh because its 2020 and I still get dead mobile signal most of the time.

{Ed033's Note - For all we know, this was part of them, back engineering technology left behind by the Tartarians?

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20 Feb 2020 21:49:38
Just watched the whole video, and they have a mobile signal, with out satellites?

Signal all the time? on a 'FLAT' plane?


This is from a VT when 'THEY' had no concept of 'NOW'.

Would the propaganda be different if they knew what was ahead of them (If they were able to 'see' 'now' 'then') would the narrative change?

Maybe not 'back engineering'. But trying to understand the old ways? . (the more advanced ways? ) .

Amongst other things, WWII seemed to be a 'genius' grab, did it not? .

{Ed033's Note - ok, understanding the old advanced ways.

Operation Paperclip = 'genius' grab?

21 Feb 2020 00:26:46
In my opinion think they still use telephone masts in triangle patterns, you know them ones there still obsessed about putting up.
The police tetra radio goes dead in estates where they have a lot of blocks because that signal is on lamppost's and so on. But is meant to be satellite.

If they trace your phone its done by triangulating location through mast.
They do have satellite phones apparently but ours do not operate Like that.
or it wouldn't matter if u was in middle of a field if signal was up in space.
UK is a small country a satellite can or should be able to cover the whole country no problem not like were aus or usa.

But u get no signal in high built areas.
Russia even threatened to cut under sea cables, if obsolete wouldn't matter surely .
Also why are satellite dishes not pointed at the sky .
Egyptians could apparently communicate long distance using some sort of contraption.

Ww2 was for Churchill a big money maker. the banks gained mass profit.
USA gained scientists. everyone else was part of a sacrifice depopulation.
Satellites for something else or and propaganda.

{Ed033's Note - There are satellites, but they are attached to high altitude balloons and therefore float high up in the air. These high altitude balloons don't stay up at high altitude forever though.

I think that if you've heard of any interview from one of these people who think /are told they are part of an Outer Space Alien craft recovery team, they are actually part of a high altitude satellite recovery team. These teams need to get to the recovered satellite attached to the high altitude balloon that has fallen to Earth quickly otherwise their 'satellites orbiting the Earth' lie would be over.

21 Feb 2020 00:29:15
Also by the looks of it,
Ww2 was good to destroy the real meaning of what we look and see as a Swastika.
And destroy loads of old buildings history.

21 Feb 2020 08:26:47
Yes, they have to destroy the knowledge and physical evidence of the past. They don't want us knowing about the Atlanteans / Tartarians.

20 Feb 2020 19:12:54
How do i post a couple of photos ed?

{Ed033's Note - Upload them one at a time uing the Image upload form page

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20 Feb 2020 17:59:46
I haven't listened to this myself, but if you're interested here is The Iron Republic 'audio book' read on youtube.

The 'audiobook' is an allegedly factual account of Mr. E. W. Barrington's expedition in the late 1800s beyond Antarctica to a place called the Iron Republic.

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20 Feb 2020 20:23:49
Ed, this has 'FICTION' in the screenshot. Doesn't bode well.

Truth twisted with tales?

{Ed033's Note - it could be fiction, you can look up 'The Iron Republic' on a search engine to see if you might be interested before spending time with it.

19 Feb 2020 09:22:07
The Secret war: Antarctica Peace Treaty:

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19 Feb 2020 13:19:22
He's on the right track, but maybe trying to fit too much into one short segment. Not sure I see the link with Roswell. Never really believed the whole Roswell story tbh, but it's a great distraction.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, when we watch any videos we have to take bits and pieces from them that makes sense to us and reject the rest.

Is the Antarctic peace treaty an agreement between all groups in our world to guard against anything coming here from beyond the Antarctic ice wall and to guard against anything going from this world to beyond the Antarctic ice wall,

or is it an agreement with a group beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

19 Feb 2020 14:22:06
There's something going on there that they don't want us to know about. Big question is what?

My suspicion is that it is so big they believe it would cause widespread panic. Maybe it wouldn't though.

Everyone would realise they've been lied to and maybe that's the bigger problem. People would then start asking what else have they lied about.

Cue chaos.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, and why did those high level people go down there in a short period of time, like John Kerry and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill?

19 Feb 2020 16:23:50
I tried to find that video on yewtoob recently, but I couldn't find it. I think Prince William also went around that time, and Buzz Aldrin I think.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, I think Buzz Aldrin went, but had to come back pretty quickly as he had a health problem.

21 Feb 2020 22:15:55
I think in my opinion they probably found some proof of ancient civilisations Maybe advanced.
And if u think about when that place was last not frozen, it will knock there time and calendar side ways.

But no doubt they say it's to see damage of human made climate change lol.

{Ed033's Note - It's crazy how they can blame anything on 'climate change' and they get away with it because most people believe it.

19 Feb 2020 08:21:50
Tartarian Dna?

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18 Feb 2020 20:18:30
The Nuclear Scare Scam - nuclear physicist Galen Winsor

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19 Feb 2020 16:28:03
Thanks Southern Monkey, I saw a Galen Winsor video before, from what he says, it makes things make more sense.

18 Feb 2020 19:27:54
There was a video I watched, where they said they used genetically modified humans Japanese Kamikaze pilots, to fly experimental anti gravity craft to spy on usa.
And that was what crashed in Roswell.
Also that the writing on thin beams reported to be found was Japanese writing.

{Ed033's Note - Roswell wasn't Aliens from Outer Space, but they have to spin everything to get us to believe in the spinning globe and that outer space is real.

The Tartarians used electric powered zeppelin/dirigibles to fly to each country. They would dock at high buildings. The Tartarians built the Empire State building for docking for example.

It's possible that the Hindenburg disaster was purposely designed by the current satanic/luciferean elite that took over from the Tartarians, to stop the worldwide powered zeppelin/dirigible travel, as the satanic/luciferean wanted to move to a slave system and away from the 'free energy' for all Tartarian system.

A lot of the technology we have today is either directly from copying the Tartarian technology or back engineering the Tartarian technology.

What happened to the Tartarians? Was there a catastrophe that caused a reset?

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18 Feb 2020 20:34:58
Just how u manage to store so much info and remember it is amazing Ed.
To be truthful I need to look into tartarians.
But agree they use everything they can to back or further cement there agendas info.

{Ed033's Note - I have posted several Tartarian videos over the past 3 months.

18 Feb 2020 20:49:31
I will look back though archive Ed 33 to catch up.
Thanks again.

19 Feb 2020 12:35:13
So Ed033, would it be fair to say what people speak of as Atlantis
Would be the same as Tartarian-Atlanteans?

Just covering Because in the Atlantis story is of Martians destroy there culture home and identity.

{Ed033's Note - Asking questions is all good.

I'm now of the opinion there are no physical Aliens visiting us from Outer Space (because we seem to be living in a closed system and don't even know if there is an Outer Space beyond the Crystal Firmament), but there could easily be other worlds beyond Antarctica (as the Earth continues beyond the Antarctic ice wall) that could contain intelligent beings or other lifeforms. They could be called Extra terra (terra = Earth) beings or Extra terrestrials.

That would mean 'Martians' could of come from beyond the Antarctic ice wall.

Yes, it's possible that the Tartarians were what was left of the Atlanteans.

19 Feb 2020 21:24:30
Admiral bird said there was a continent beyond Antarctica.
yes that was what I thought it to mean .
martians as being like an illegal alien as used to be used in america.
Before political correctness.

18 Feb 2020 15:17:01
Newspaper April 1900 - Sir John Gorst (then Head of the British Education Department) "may be thrown into prison" for saying that the Earth is round.

"Its seems that the schools of Portsmouth have been teaching the damnable and heretical doctrine that the Earth is a sphere".

For the rest, read the fourth column on the page:

Cook County Herald April 21 1900

{Ed033's Note - A sphere you say, where's the evidence for Earth being a sphere? :)

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18 Feb 2020 17:25:38
Space is like religious beliefs.
They give u cgi and a story,
U just have to put your faith in them that its true or there.

Flat earth theory is one of them that opens your eyes.
Or makes you at least question what u thought u knew.

18 Feb 2020 17:27:35
Was southampton87
Couldn't log back in sorry.

{Ed033's Note - No problem, southampton

18 Feb 2020 18:23:46
Thanks ed33.

18 Feb 2020 07:46:28
Do we see the Firmament in this video from 11:00 onwards?

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18 Feb 2020 10:45:54
Very compelling presentation, but I wish he and others would use the word proof a bit more judiciously. Strong evidence and proof are not the same thing.

{Ed033's Note - Good point Rian.

18 Feb 2020 12:18:39
I really like it though :)

I had a look on yewtoob, and the first comment made me chuckle;

"Look, if you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you're stupid. Did you hear that? -stupid. "

Quote from Arthur Sylvester, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, 1965.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly, William Casey, CIA Director said in his first staff meeting in 1981:
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.

18 Feb 2020 14:45:58
So its not possible for a fisheye lens to turn a curve, flat? . Interesting. Has anyone got a Fisheye to test this? Sadly, I haven't.

With the atmospheric lensing, the MS say that when you see the Sun set. The Sun has already gone behind the curvature of the Earth and it is the atmosphere bending light around the Earth, so that we can see it.

Now, in this video the atmosphere is explained to get denser, so you can only see up to a certain point, regardless of apparatus.

I can think of a way to test either without being on an Earth size scale. I know light can be bent through water. And rainbows are always curved (which is probably due to water droplets being round) . Any help on this?

I did watch a video where several sunsets were filmed and a line was drawn following the path of the sunset. You would expect the lines to be curved if the Earth is rotating round the Sun, whilst spinning at 1000mph. But they were all straight lines.

{Ed033's Note - The problem we have with trying to do any experiments is if you try to talk to someone with specific knowledge in any area, as soon as they think you're going outside of the mainstream, they'll back away from you.

Didn't you have this before with the engineer?

18 Feb 2020 17:12:33
Always found flat earth to be interesting topic.
Just opens your eyes to quite a lot that you would just not normally question,
Because what we have been taught as a fact
Not as best theory .
Used to be Southampton 87.

{Ed033's Note - Wow, welcome back southampton

18 Feb 2020 17:49:29
Yeah sorry, Ed. I forgot my opinion is worthless because I haven't been 'schooled'.

18 Feb 2020 18:22:58
Cheers ed33
I've always looked in just not posted for awhile.

{Ed033's Note - Right, thanks for posing again.

18 Feb 2020 19:03:06
Yes Sm
there was a vid also.
That was part of operation fish bowl
Were u could see explosions the same shape as if it hit something.

{Ed033's Note - operation fish bowl was a series of high-altitude nuclear 'tests'. It's likely that they were actually trying to crack the crystal Firmament.

18 Feb 2020 19:30:33
The footage above is from this video. Gives some more details for those interested.

Operation Fishbowl video

18 Feb 2020 19:24:48
Nuking The Dome - Military Nuclear Tests Blast The Dome Firmament

18 Feb 2020 19:33:46
This is s repost from a few weeks back, but seems relevant.

Rockets Hitting God's Crystal Firmament Above Our Heads

18 Feb 2020 19:38:48
This is the article quoted:

Earth's Plasma Shield

18 Feb 2020 20:39:59
Some serious time spent truth seeking SM.
Fair play,
Yes nuking the dome was the video SM.
And yes that would be fair to assume they were trying to hit something Ed33.

18 Feb 2020 22:38:13
It's amazing the inspiration you get to search that little bit harder, when you have, had your eyes truly opened, Southampton. I have the honourable Ed033 to thank for that.

I think you should read from latish November, on this site, to see my journey down the rabbit hole.

Though, I have always been a 'truther'. I never really, realised just how asleep I was.

I guess it was a case of asking all the 'wrong' questions. Because you still get answers to 'wrong' questions, but they don't show you the truth. Exactly how the 'elite' want it.

19 Feb 2020 10:12:17
It's true u get a Hunger for more info, not only that things seem to make a bit more sense as to how or why something operates as it does.

I think ed33 speaks truth and gives us knowledge to most that come here, and has contributed a lot of time to this site and us.

I'm going to look through the last few months to see what I have missed.
Cheers Sm.

17 Feb 2020 21:39:10
So is the Earth flat or a globe?

Neither, it's a concave bowl at 3min 25secs.

They realise their mistake and quickly cut to another shot.

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17 Feb 2020 22:41:55
Obviously caused by a fisheye lens.

But is that what causes the curve, the right way around?

18 Feb 2020 07:54:38
The video at timestamp 18 Feb 2020 07:46:28 says a bit more on the concave / convex fisheye lenses.

18 Feb 2020 14:32:11
good spot SM.

18 Feb 2020 18:46:11
Good post SM
There was a video,
I think it was called (rocket hit dome) .
Where the fish eye lens rocks back and fourth.
And u see the horizon go concave to flat to convex.

18 Feb 2020 22:23:37
Apparently, you can not make a sphere flat using a fisheye lens, Southampton.

"And u see the horizon go concave to 'FLAT' to convex. " - makes you wonder how this is possible? .

If you happen to know someone who can verify this, I think we have some solid evidence, I sadly don't have a fisheye lens.

{Ed033's Note - Maybe southampton means, concave to convex?

18 Feb 2020 22:47:20
Southampton wasn't wrong in what he said, Ed.

I am saying that a 'globe Earth' will NEVER be 'flat' in a fisheye lens. If I am correct, it will be a wave.

I need to check this for myself.

A 'Flat Earth' would appear 'FLAT' in the middle of a fisheye lens.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.

19 Feb 2020 21:50:22
Yes your both right sorry didn't look down page.
Horizon in my opinion of the video
When though all three stages, from concave to flat to convex as the camera tilted up and down.
I think horizon on a spear would just be a lot more dramatic lol.
Like there cgi.

17 Feb 2020 16:15:29
Science guy makes strong case for very close, local Sun:

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17 Feb 2020 12:20:24
Jeffery Dougherty talks NASA Space Shuttles being balloons and large space rockets being balloons with David Weiss.

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16 Feb 2020 16:10:17
Evidence of petrified giant (measured in miles) tree with leaves longer than the Empire State Building!

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16 Feb 2020 16:31:46
Really good find Southern Monkey. If people want to know, the location of this is Madagascar.

16 Feb 2020 19:13:23
Yes, its Manakana, Madagascar.

Just been looking on Google Earth. I thought you, used to be able to tilt the view?

You can change between 2d and 3d but its fixed at a certain angle. Really annoying when you try to look at things like this. Maybe that's why you can not tilt?

16 Feb 2020 20:19:00
Where's the tree trunk?

{Ed033's Note - it's a good point Rian, there are loads of 'mountains' that are what's left of tree stumps, but where are the trunks.

Were the tree trunks cut down and mined in the past? Or were the trunks cut down for wood/building material like we cut down trees today.

We currently mine stuff from what is left of giant petrified flora and fauna (like giant petrified branches) so it's likely that the trunks were mined in the past, but were the trunks also used for wood / building material as well?

Would this mean there were giant humans about in the past?

Does Southern Monkey have an idea?

16 Feb 2020 21:44:45
There are many old texts that reference there being 'giants'.

I am sure you have heard the name 'Nephilim'

" the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge" according to Genesis 6:1–4

Or in Sumerian texts on cuneiform tablets they are 'Annunaki'

In The Book of Enoch they were "great giants, whose height was three thousand ells". An Ell being 18 inches, this would make them nearly a mile tall.

There are in-depth and convincing studies of giant 'Titans' and 'mud fossils' of petrified organs. Ed has posted videos of these on this site.

This is a mind-bending subject, and one most will not give a second thought but, from my point of view, the 'global elite' are faking space. I think You have to start to think outside of the box as to the reasons as to why they would do this.

We are told we are on a ball spinning 1000 mph, flying round a nuclear furnace with a radius of nearly 700,00 miles, at 67,000 mph. All of which is flying 500,000 mph round one of an almost infinite amount of galaxies which exist in a Universe that's 13.8 billons years old; 90 billion light years across, which is expanding at the speed of light. But it all started off smaller than a Planck length.

Surely thinking of the possibility of there once being things beyond our imagination, isn't quite so hard as we think? .

It's possible after each 'age', things get smaller.

All the 'Ancient Ones' were giants who lived for a long time (1000 years) . (And that's most religions some even suggest 100,000 - 430,000 years. ) . Maybe they mined the planet? they would have, had the time. Maybe they angered a 'Higher Power' that brought great vengeance and furious anger upon them to the point where now you are only left with traces of them, obscured from view.

{Ed033's Note - Thanks for the reply.

05 Mar 2020 17:53:17
If you look at what man is currently doing to the plant and how we are destroying the ideal conditions on it, it is conceivable that we will sooner or later make it impossible to sustain human life, at which point we will die out. In time, a new breed of humanoids will probably emerge, wither able to cope with the new atmosphere or when earth has returned the atmosphere to what it was when mankind emerged. With this thought in mind it is not inconceivable that there were races that came before us and killed themselves off in similar fashion, with the planet naturally decomposing and recycling the 'evidence' long before we came along. I think we are not the first humanoid race to walk the planet and will certainly not be the last.

{Ed033's Note - Sounds likely alf

16 Feb 2020 15:39:45

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