Conspiracy Talk 9

08 Jan 2020 21:55:28
Are you a legal slave?

07 Jan 2020 19:09:00
NASA Engineer interview about NASA and the Earth.

Full 2 Hour Version

30 minute partial version below:

08 Jan 2020 08:21:50
There is mention, in this video, that you can see spacex rockets transition into the waters above. I don't suppose you know of these videos showing that, Ed? . All my searches just shows vts of them crashing into the sea. Thanks.

{Ed033's Note - No i don't, but the ex NASA guy is in a GAB flat earth group: gab.com/groups/168. The username he uses is Manwe Sulimo. If you sign up to GAB, you can go to the GAB group, find him and ask him.

08 Jan 2020 15:05:29
Thanks for the info, Ed.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks

09 Jan 2020 19:09:26
Got a reply.

{Ed033's Note - Brilliant. I can't tell, but it looks to me like it was penetrating further into the Firmament for a while then flew side ways inside the Firmament for a while, then descended inside the Firmament for a while then left the Firmament.

Maybe they have found a way to penetrate the Firmament, but haven't gone all the way through the Firmament to the other side yet?

10 Jan 2020 07:32:45
I am trying to find the actual flight data/ path/ telemetry of this launch. Not having much luck yet. Would be interesting to see the planned route/ actual route of the rocket and then compare with what we are actually seeing. That is not travelling how you would expect a "rocket" to travel, I think we all can agree.

Your opinion on what we are seeing is in line with my thoughts. I know all the MS stuff about the ionosphere etc and what they say is the cause, but that doesn't feel right. What with all the effects I have personally seen on the moon (like water) and the vt's you have posted using a p900 on sirius. Things to me seem way stacked against MSBS.

Let's suppose we knew nothing of "rockets" (or to quote Zecharia Sitchin "shem") and we witnessed something like this. Would it not seem prophetical?

{Ed033's Note - Yes, maybe there is a SpaceX online group that has details about all the SpaceX launches.

10 Jan 2020 14:40:02
Looking at what I am finding, I feel trying to find this data is sadly futile:

"No, it is not public. This level of detailed information in the United States would fall under ITAR, and as a point of fact, SpaceX is more secretive with this kind of data than other launch providers, you have to pretty much be a SpaceX employee, or contractor, or government agency, to see any of the information."


wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations

{Ed033's Note - Makes sense, if you use a private company, then details can be kept private.

06 Jan 2020 09:50:52
A more in depth study of giant ancient trees.

youtube.com/watch?v=2ENP5qwlL7I

{Ed033's Note - That's the 11 hour version.

Here is part 1 from the same channel:

05 Jan 2020 17:44:10
1965 scientist claims the moon is plasma:

05 Jan 2020 13:28:18
To hide real ancient history, an ancient history involving Egypt, Greece The Roman Empire and other ancient civilisations was made up and was based on Medieval events circa 1000-1600? (Anatoly Fomenko New chronology).

04 Jan 2020 12:24:11
Part of Agenda 21: Areas of no human habitation / no areas of natural lifeforms. Australia - The Perfect Firestorm created by design by spraying fire accelerants.

03 Jan 2020 16:10:15
The Birth Certificate - Kurt Kallenbach:

03 Jan 2020 11:15:13
Sagnac and Michelson-Morley experiments - There is an Aether and the Earth does not move through the Aether.

03 Jan 2020 10:33:03
A demonstration of Nikola Tesla's theory of the transmission of power without the use of wires using EM 'Scalar Waves'. Demonstration by Professor Dr. Konstantin Meyl.

03 Jan 2020 14:05:12
This may, or may not interest you Ed.

CIA document on advanced weaponry

Thanks for the work.

{Ed033's Note - Ok thanks.

01 Jan 2020 11:30:05
The term 'Mud Flood' isn't correct.

31 Dec 2019 21:45:55
Happy New Year to all the Eds across all the sites. I occasionally post on the Manchester United page but I'd rather be wearing my tin foil hat on here than a hard hat on there. All the best for 2020 one and all. :)

Hopefully they've figured it out by now:

{Ed033's Note - Happy New Year

31 Dec 2019 12:32:34
I have just found this video. The effect I said I saw when looking at the moon was the same as this effect washing over this star:

Now I am a loss to find any explanation for this, that fits any MS narrative.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, below is crrow777 lunar wave video:

31 Dec 2019 14:02:27
Just searched for an explanation for this effect and its comical.

"The researches discovered that acoustic waves, also known as sound waves, in the earths upper atmosphere pile up along the the leading and trailing edges of the moons shadow as it moves across the earth, like the waves when a ship plows through water"

"First the wave capture, this is simply caused by vibration of the air around the moon, caused by the effective hit of a solar bow wave, pressure wave which the moon and indeed even the earth to a certain extent also will have this mini flutter occur. "

So now shadows have mass? and there is air on the moon?

{Ed033's Note - As long as they can come up with any kind of an answer they think they can debunk anything. I'm surprised they didn't just say 'Climate Change' caused it.

30 Dec 2019 14:29:47
The age of the Earth appears to be thousands not billions of years old?

31 Dec 2019 09:50:03
What do all the "experts" say about the pollodium 218, Ed? . Tried searching for anyone in the mainstream talking or addressing this and no one seems to. I guess I should not be surprised by the empty rhetoric.

{Ed033's Note - They have to ignore pollonium 218 otherwise it's rewrite textbook time and admit they got it all wrong.

29 Dec 2019 21:22:37
NASA Documents state they assume Earth is flat and non rotating.

30 Dec 2019 11:39:54
If you were anywhere on a flat earth, and its was sunny. Would it not be sunny everywhere on that flat earth?

{Ed033's Note - Maybe looking at these series of videos might help you comprehend:

30 Dec 2019 17:21:38
Cheers, Ed. Knew you'd have a, albeit mind-bending, plausible explanation up your sleeve.

{Ed033's Note - You could install The Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock app on your Mobile Phone (costs $3)

31 Dec 2019 10:12:50
So, hypothetically speaking. If the flat earth dome system existed. Pretty much everything we have been told is fake.
Is everything outside the dome real? or a projection onto said dome? .
Gravity or the effect of the force we know as gravity, would become very complex to explain with what would become defunct main stream science.

I have spent a very, very long time outside in the cold, looking at, and collecting digital camera data from such named objects as M51, horsehead nebulae etc etc. I'm going to be pretty pissed if it turns out I was taking an image, of an image. haha :)

{Ed033's Note - How do you have a vacuum (the alleged vacuum of outer space) directly next to our atmosphere / atmospheric pressure? unless one of them is inside a container.

Try creating a vacuum anywhere on the surface of Earth. Can't be done unless you have the vacuum in a container. Then try recreating a pocket of atmosphere / atmospheric pressure inside that vacuum without it also being in its own container.

Also, If you take a Nikon P900 camera and zoom into any 'star' in 'outer space' (luminary is a better word for star), this is the type of thing you see:

31 Dec 2019 12:19:10
The vacuum argument has me perplexed, Ed. The main stream answer would be gravity does it. Yet this doesn't make sense as gravity is weak and the force of which is easily counteracted by ourselves by the mere act of picking something up. If the same said object was the seal of a vacuum that was fixed point. The force used to break the vacuum would be exponentially greater than, that of gravity. So, by that very thought experiment, the system is flawed. And as you suggest, the atmosphere would be instantly ripped away.

I have seen the light show that is what we know as stars. And yeah its puzzling, but I have always put this down to atmospheric conditions being turbulent. That's the narrative we are taught anyway. Having looked at the moon a lot, you see whatever this effect is, very clearly. Almost like watching something through crystal clear waters. Having dabbled in the world of parachuting/ paragliding I have been trained to think of air acting the same way as water. So this effect of the moon and stars has up until now, always made sense.

{Ed033's Note - I wonder whether the atomic/nuclear blast tests in the upper atmosphere is them trying to blow a hole in / crack the 'Dome' above us.

31 Dec 2019 14:11:18
They would probably think it was a good idea and be stupid enough to try. Has there been any recent updates on what HAARP is up to?

My yt searches just bring up the opposite of what I'm trying to find these days. Is there anyway of searching yt without using their search algorithms? a back door so to speak.

{Ed033's Note - HAARP, i don't know, but they probably bounce frequencies off the Dome.

I don't know of any alternative Youtube search.

26 Dec 2019 16:56:02
If the Earth is approx. 4 times larger than the Moon, shouldn't the Earth look 4 times larger from the Moon than looking at the Moon from Earth?

Below: NASA Apollo 11 Earth photo from the Moon.

Shouldn't the Earth look 4 times larger in the below photo, if what we're being told is all correct?

26 Dec 2019 22:31:09
For the moon to be that big in a photo you would have to use a telephoto lens zoomed into a distant horizon. Do you know what lens was used, Ed? . I would think it was probably a lot smaller lens. If you used the apollo equipment to take a photo of the moon it would look at lot smaller than the earth in the above image.

But this is by no way me saying that the photo isn't fake.

{Ed033's Note - I'm thinking that if i stand on Earth and look at the moon with my eyes, the moon is a known size to me. Therefore if i am standing on the moon and look at the Earth, the Earth should look 4 times bigger to me than when looking at the Moon from Earth.

27 Dec 2019 07:44:11
I agree with that. The problem is you would need to be standing on the moon to see that, from that point of view (your own eyes) .

I was trying to get the point that, for instance, If I look at the moon with my yes and think i'll take a nice picture of that, then use a cameraphone let's say, to take a pic. Then moon appears a lot smaller than what i expected it too, when I looked at it using my eyes.

Hope you follow me, Ed?

You statement question is valid, but you would need to compare photos using exactly the same equipment. Or we can start a crowd funding page to get you too the moon? :)

I will see if I can find out the Apollo camera specs and take a picture of moon using same specs then we can compare.

Just a quick follow up. As far as I can tell it was taken by the 70mm Hasselblad.

lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS11-44-6552.

Sadly I have left my camera charger at home and won't be back until the new year. So can not take a 70mm comparable pic just yet. Not that I expect to see the moon anytime soon with this weather we're getting, anyhow.

For the time being here is a photo of the moon someone that is not me has taken at 70mm. It shows the point I am trying to make quite well.

{Ed033's Note - Another point is that if you're an Apollo astronaut on the moon, aren't you at some point going to look at the Earth and isn't the Earth going to look pretty big in the sky (4 times larger than the moon looks from Earth). Aren't you going to comment on the Earth? Where are all the commentaries, videos and photos of the Earth from the Moon?

27 Dec 2019 13:54:33
If you were there, the sight would be incredibly overwhelming and yes, you would expect there to be some more references to the amazement of seeing what would probably appear like a super earth. Even so much as speechless moments. But there isn't, that I am aware of.

The only footage I can recall offhand where you can see the earthrise from lunar orbit was some VT on what were these lunar flashes that 2 astronauts describe. On more than one occasion they saw flashes coming from the same lunar location. The footage doesn't show what they see, just voices and lunar landscape which then shows an earthrise. All would be easy to fake if you had the resources.

You could make a case for only a few "apollo" photos of the moon because the cameras were fixed POV apart from one? I believe, which was manual. And what with limited time, they were trained just to get their job done. But to counter argue. They had time to play golf and test Newtons theory of falling objects, but not to film the earth?

The big question is, why have we never been back?

{Ed033's Note - It is interesting that the Chinese recently went to the 'Dark Side' of the Moon, but didn't show us any video of the Earth on the way to the Moon that i'm aware of.

In the below documentary between the 36 minute - 40 minute mark, you see the Apollo 11 Astronauts faking the video of the Earth when they are allegedly half way to the Moon.

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon:

27 Dec 2019 16:31:50
Great footage, Ed. Thanks. I think I just heard hsf's head explode ;)

{Ed033's Note - Ok thanks

27 Dec 2019 20:04:59
Doesn’t the moon appear different in size depending on how close it is to the horizon? Could that happen in reverse?

Of course if any of us were on a flight to the moon I expect we would be taking endless shots of the earth both from the space craft and from the lunar surface. But the lack of pictures makes scrutiny of their one that much harder because there’s nothing to compare it to. Unlike the lunar footage photos which seemed to have the same background despite being allegedly taken in different places on different days.

{Ed033's Note - The Moon does appear slightly different in size depending on position.

03 Jan 2020 22:22:54
Ed, I don't suppose you have a link or some other access to the full version of the clip (36-40min) in the above VT? I assume not as you probably would have posted that. Just thought i'd ask as having no luck finding it. Thanks.

{Ed033's Note - The owner of the clip is Bart Sibrel. He may have put the full clip in another of his documentaries. On his web site (sibrel.com) is his email address. You could email him and ask him where the full clip can be viewed.

04 Jan 2020 07:52:18
Thanks very much, Ed. Appreciated.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks