07 Nov 2014 17:24:56
Poll of the day question, not sure if its a wind up or not but i'll bite anyway.
NO
Even if we were, we have our own feelings and thoughts which IMO makes it the real world.
Actually can't believe 2 people voted yes. :-)
{Ed033's Note - No wind up, Philip K. Dick believed we were living in a programmed reality and held a press conference to say so.
Jim Elvidge interview on Red Ice Radio - Are we Living in a Simulation, a Programmed Reality?
Part 1 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1GgKujcTs
Part 2 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_siOakzOEAA
Part 3 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76DQ1pmvs0
Part 4 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGe6qr4egz4
Listened to the first one, will get the rest later.
Still not convinced by this but as always will give it a chance and keep an open mind but this all seems just a little to crazy for me. I'm not a quantum physics type of guy and admittingly when I listen to things like that I turn into a Homer Simpson.
{Ed033's Note - i'm not saying we do live in a programmed reality but when anyone thinks they have reality pinned down, it's time to get some new info.
Haha herbie that homer joke had me laughing, I am out for a few drinks tonight and will try to catch over the weekend, is this simulation like a kind of matix that we can not see?
No idea Franky, I can't see it.
:-)
{Ed033's Note - The theory being that in a hundred years or so, we will be able to create a simulated reality.
However, it is actually more likely that we're already there in the future and so we're all now living in a simulated reality.
Like the holo-deck on Star Trek
{Ed033's Note - yes or you're placed in a pod or avatar or machine like the matrix.
Think about this, when you can afford to retire and if the technology exists, people may like to enter into a simulation where their memory is wiped and they then play a 'game of life' in a programmed simulation. If they 'die' in the simulation, they get a memory wipe and they restart the game.
It's possible that with a few people, the memory wipe isn't perfect and there are a few vague memories from before.
And just like the matrix, it's not a perfect game world where it's all peace and harmony but it's good vs evil.
There is a movie that presents reality as being a simulated universe by the title: "The Thirteenth Floor" that came out in 1999.
Research money is being made available to mainstream science in return for it proving that the initial spark that gave rise to the universe was a random event. By identifying the equations of natural mechanisms ("laws of physics") one can trace the source that powers said mechanisms, the means through which they affect the universe and how they trigger sequential mechanisms. In doing so one begins to notice the evident patterns of the universe or of those mechanisms that give rise to the universe.
Infinity is a concept forever alien to a finite mind. For by merely perceiving one of its infinite aspects, that which is limited is rendered limitless, that which is captive becomes free.
This is the reason for the establishment's funding and promotion of nullifying concepts and nihilist scientists. In this way all variables in said equations are quantified and subsequently turned into stupidly labelled, conditional constants. Through their subsequent differentiation those constants become zero and zero can only be defined in relation to infinity.
As such, one enters a vicious circle.
The reason the above is mentioned is to prehensile that the argument between a simulated universe and an unpredictable one is that of order and chaos.
In quantifying variables, one brings conditional order to an equation. On the contrary, through transcendental numbers (hyper-dimensional variables) one witnesses infinity.
I believe the universe and all that it contains can be explained through mathematics. By identifying the equations of all perceivable natural mechanisms and setting them in the appropriate sequence (microcosmmacrocosm) in a power matrix (see math for "power" and computer programming for "matrix"), would produce a software program that would simulate/emulate the universe.
Of course for this to be possible one would need a relatively infinite power source and a frequency differential of about 10^64.
There is a theory that states that, when one perceives every variable in the universe, another manifests and thus the universe rearranges itself into something new, thus requiring recalculation.
Admittedly, this notion could be used to support the theory that the universe is a relatively perpetual simulation machine, but could also be taken to infer that the universe is a consciousness that perpetually promotes the evolution of consciousness.
In conclusion, I think the question that should be asked is not whether the universe is a computer simulation or not, but whether mathematics are the language of the universe and thus computers have been modeled according to the currently perceivable universe.
zari