17 Jul 2016 01:58:16
The more I think about it and the whole hippie movement. Many great minds there but they were deliberately sedated in a haze of music and drugs. A master stroke by the controllers. Whilst a lot of the world was rebelling Americans were talking and singing about it.

{Ed002's Note - Or perhaps the expanded consciousness provided to us allowed us to understand much better and see colours you've never seen before?}

17 Jul 2016 11:10:09
I am too young to have been a part of the hippie movement, but from what I observed from it, the world would be a better place today if we followed there peace and love mantra, I have never taken drugs so I ca'nt comment on that part but I have to say the music was and still is great, where are the singer songwriters of today to provide us with a relevant soundtrack of the world we are living in? where are the dissenting voices demanding more from our goverments and world leaders? there are actually one or two I could name but they are not household names or mainstream artists which I think says it all. As for the drugs part what would the 60's have looked like without lsd and timothy leary?

17 Jul 2016 13:53:49
Why prosecute these people for drugs if the 'controllers' wanted to keep them in a hazed drug state though? Why, as we know, did the Nixon administration target the anti war (hippie) left and black communities if it is easier to control those on drugs?

As Ed002 alluded too, the majority of drugs of the 60's and 70's (marijuana, lsd, mdma, psilocybin) gave clarity and creativity to a subset of the population. It didn't leave them, as it still doesn't, in a drug hazed state. Those who have used the substances know that. Those that don't tend to believe the bs that people who use the drugs I've mentioned leave you as brainless zombies.

17 Jul 2016 13:55:56
Not to mention the fact the songs they wrote and speeches they gave are still lauded today by those who don't want to be controlled. If the controllers had a plan for this, it seems a pretty silly one to help there agenda.

17 Jul 2016 16:41:16
The more militant groups were targeted by government forces, the Hippie movement was influenced by people with military connections. Black ghettos were flooded with hard drugs. The drugs used then I'm not denying helped people explore the deeper parts of their minds but also quelled the need for reactionary rebellion like that seen on Cuba.

17 Jul 2016 17:10:05
Kingkenny, there are plenty of bands and singer song writers that are just as good if not better out there, you just need to look harder.

17 Jul 2016 21:24:41
And here's one straight from the mainstream. Manics holy bibleðŸ‘.

17 Jul 2016 22:52:14
I'd type into google 'Nixon aid war on drugs' TTTS. It was the movement that was stiffled, not a small or militant fraction of it. They knew what they were doing and it wasn't keep them in a drug hazed state. It was turn the population against those who used these substances, as a free thinking society was uncontrolable.

I'd also recommend a heavy dose of psilocybin. It will shatter your perseption of reality and if anything, assist in the goal of 'waking up'

18 Jul 2016 04:09:38
Absolutely correct Melbourne, them shrooms are a magical eye opener.

18 Jul 2016 06:53:06
Anyone suggesting shrooms will stimulate your "waking up" is just stupid. The fact of the matter is, anything that alters instead of stimulates will have some serious side effects to it, you can't always guarantee a good trip either.

Anything that stimulates the mind is well worth trying though. Certain strains of Cannabis are very good at this and I'm not talking about White Widow or Purple Haze. They have too much THC in them and it drowns out the CBD.

CBD is the group of cannabinoids that are used to help with Cancer and a lot of muscular and joint disorders. It's also very good for stimulating creativity.

18 Jul 2016 07:52:47
I could say suggesting otherwise is stupid, HSF. Its a baseless statement. Rather than make a finite statement that is only based on opinion I prefer to look at the science. I suggest researching psilocybin mushrooms and depression. You may learn something new. Or even just psilocybin mushrooms and the brain.

Of course you can't guarantee a good trip. I don't know you. I don't know how objective you are in life, or how good of a person you are, or how honest you are with yourself. If you do all these things in everyday life, I can guarantee you'll have a good trip. However, I can assure you if you aren't managing your consciousness well on this pedestrian level, and you're avoiding issues in your life, the plant won't let you get away with it. Its the ego dissolving properties that are so powerful and important. And what's so terrible about a bad trip anyway? They are often the most enlightening for people how could be seen as selfish pricks, travelling through the world with no concept that others exist here too. Not to mention it lasts all of 5-10hrs. You can't get trapped in that world, contrary to urban myth.

I can only assume you a) have never taken them b) have friends that have taken them and acted foolish, because they would rather escape ultimate truth than dive headfirst into it or c) your spouting rubbish you've read online. I'll go with a though, as if you'd taken them and seen what so many others have, you'd know how powerful they would be in waking people up. Not to this 'controller' stuff I see on here, but to the fact we are all the same. No matter your religion, colour or background. The love we have inside of ourselves is far more powerful than the hate and greed. And with that knowledge, the 'controllers' would lose everything, anyway. If they do exist.

Not having a crack mate, but its obvious to me when someone is ignorant about this topic. And your response dictates as much. Anecdotal evidence is not reliable. Any scientist or researcher will tell you as much. Open your mind to the possibility you've been brainwashed to believe this stuff is hurtful, and you might just discovery why its so heavily penalised and why the possibility of widespread use would scare the powerbrokers within our society so much.

18 Jul 2016 07:55:56
And just for a reference point, Cannabis in edible form, which is used both for cancer patients and those experiencing muscle pain is considered a psycodelic substance. Its processed in the liver and has a completely different reaction then when smoked. It ALTERS the mind by STIMULATING its receptors. I can't see how you differentiate between those two terms anyway. Seems a high horse statement to me.

18 Jul 2016 10:35:38
you are never going to find an artist in mainstream music, they either get locked out or filtered out.

immortal technique is a guy you have to listen to, even though rap music is not my go to music, i love this album.

18 Jul 2016 14:41:02
Vinnie Paz - end of days that's worth a listen to aswell frankyscouser.

18 Jul 2016 17:18:20
Lol, ok Melbourne, if you say so.

19 Jul 2016 04:46:28
I'm open to a different point of view that's supported by some sort of evidence, hsf, but I fear you may not really believe what you said and so when questioned on it, your response was to belittle mine. Society, eh?

19 Jul 2016 19:40:20
Trip vs trap? Trip all day long up the tree and off the bark. And don't underestimate your beautiful breakfast.

19 Jul 2016 19:59:29
On a serious note Melbourne, I think you and me graze in the same pastures but the thing with ego death is that if someone is not halfway awake already it will probably destroy someone (if you go in high) . Shrooms are my go to but people have to go to the dream not have the nightmare brought to them if you know what I mean. I extract with ethanol to get psilocybin in solution . Theroputic levels are not scarry (50 libertys) and will wash away depression . Obviously this works for me and I don't think I have ever been depressed (so couldn't tell you if it works lol) and to sum it up I'm happy as Larry.

19 Jul 2016 20:30:30
Or building a new EgoðŸŽ·.

20 Jul 2016 00:14:17
It's not for everyone Sanogo, more due to irrational fears than anything. It certainly can destroy someone's perception of self, which can be dangerous if they are truly attached to this idea that they are this flesh vechicle and all its thoughts rather than there thoughts are only theirs due to their experience's and have the ultimate understanding that if I lived your life I would be exactly you and vice versa.

I certainly find it an enjoyable pasture to graze in mate. I have only needed the plant three times but each time it has brought the world into a clearer focus.

20 Jul 2016 10:14:30
Come October I'm every weekend come Jan.

{Ed033's Note - sounds like you're already there, growbun

20 Jul 2016 16:52:13
No that's the special k at this time of year.