09 Nov 2016 07:41:00
Well, it seems the polls (and me) were wrong. Kim, Ed, you got what you wanted, I hope I'm wrong about what's going to happen next too.

{Ed033's Note - Well whatever happens, while Trump is President, he's got to be better than Hillary.

 
09 Nov 2016 08:19:16
Delighted.

{Ed033's Note - The funny thing is that there's loads of people who think the world is falling apart because first we had Brexit and next we have Donald Trump as President.

At the same time, you have other people [the 'awake' ones] thinking the exact opposite.

 
09 Nov 2016 08:58:28
It's nothing to do with polls been wrong. As mentioned on here a thousand times. The polls only purpose is to try and influence the way people vote. There is no maths to it as the result suggested.

 
09 Nov 2016 09:26:27
Exactly. All year the polls have been proven wrong. Because they are there to influence not report. Same as the media.

Got what I wanted? I've said before Trump was hardly the best candidate. But he took on the whole media and won. Goes to show you need more to win than just parading "celebrities" on a stage and talking down to people.

What I wanted was a winner who would improve Russo-American relations and stop Cold War 2 and worse. Clinton was the one with all the anti Russian rhetoric.

 
09 Nov 2016 09:36:22
what do you think is going to happen Muscat, surely nothing worse than if Hillary got in?

 
09 Nov 2016 09:07:36
Edd033 it's Cringe worthy to listen to the tears of msm. talking about white supremacy (give me a break), sexism and fascism. Complete rubbish only used to divide and instil fear into people. Couple of weeks needed for the dust to settle.

Listening to hillary supporters would ruin your day. I'm delighted he's in. I don't agree with everything but I now hope he keeps his word and makes an even bigger hole in the corrupt establishment.

{Ed033's Note - The Hillary supporters should 'wake up' to the fact that main stream media was deliberately lying to them all long about the poll numbers and deliberately lying that Trump had no chance of winning.

The Hillary supporters should 'wake up' to the fact that not only were they being deliberately lied to then, but they are being deliberately lied to right now.

But so many of them have the politically correct disease that they won't figure out that all the MSM does, is lie.

 
09 Nov 2016 11:17:24
I agree with KP, Hillary would have increased tension between the US and Russia, whereas Trump has shown no interest in this. Trump also will be less likely to endorse an Israeli attack on Iran.

I also hope this marks the beginning of the end of the Clinton political dynasty.

 
09 Nov 2016 11:18:11
MrJonesy, I do not believe that Clinton would have done anything significantly different to any president of the last 30 years, it would simply be business as usual. That's not a great thing but it's not bad either.

My fear with Trump is that he can't 'make america great again' and when he fails he will promote the idea that it's everyone else's fault that America is in decline. This will further polarise the nation and sour relations with the rest of the world. My feeling is that he will hasten the decline of America not halt it.

 
09 Nov 2016 11:05:06
Ed, I think you know that I'm not very respectful of the opinions expressed on this site. Where you say awake, I say gullible; when you rail against the political correct, I see thinly veiled bigotry. I come on this site because I enjoy the irony that you attack what you call the main stream media for it's lack of integrity and agenda whilst sharing fake stories and and having an agenda of your own.

My problem is that my world has become complacent, the society I live in laughs off the idea of Hillary going to jail as a silly story no one believed to be credible, we thought that no one who said the things Trump said could ever get the support necessary to be president, we were sure that everyone would see just as clearly as we did that Brexit was a terrible idea. We were wrong.

I hope that Trump's election is the final straw in that complacency and the west will start to swing back the the center but today I am genuinely worried that this is just the start, that our future is an insular one that blames others for our problems, that is hugely depressing to me.

{Ed033's Note - So you still haven't 'woken up' to the fact that main stream media was lying all along, and you still believe them.

 
09 Nov 2016 13:00:28
What we are seeing is a reaction of ordinary people against an out of touch political elite too concerned with pushing their agenda and unconcerned about the impact it causes.

Now, the same as after the brexit result, we see the same people smearing a chunk of the electorate as racist xenophobic uneducated plebs.

 
09 Nov 2016 17:30:17
Like keeping a worker ant happy! As long as things don't change then I'm fine with that, as long as your still breathing it's ok isn't it?

 
09 Nov 2016 17:33:12
Muscatred, the whole of the world is all off ours and not just yours. I say this because everyone is in the same predicament in that the elites do not care about us.

 
10 Nov 2016 07:26:16
Hey Musc there's nothing wrong with disagreeing! and for proper discussion and solutions there must be two sides to every discussion, and I respect yours, so I think you should have the dignity and not the hypocrisy you have shown in saying people should accept differing views yet you don't respect theirs.

And I think the world is far from complacent right now, how can you say its complacent when humanity is clearly trying new things to survive, new leaders, new movements, fighting more. If that's complacency I don't wanna see what the world would look like if we get agitated.