11 Jan 2014 00:59:44
Hi all ages since I posted but been busy.

To be honest not sure if you have all discussed recently but the talk is two footballers who have been "injured" recently have been in rehab and the FA have covered it up the two players in questions are Andy Carroll and Jack Wilshere. I totally believe the Carroll theory not sure about Wilshere, however the point is I don't think it's just the FA covering up just look at the world class players that pick up an injury that takes twice as long as it would take me or you to recover from (Messi) and the vague description some clubs give such as a thigh injury or a strain of this or the other, I have briefly discussed here before about the theory of Spanish teams and doctors being involved with performance enhancing drugs but believe his is wide spread and that although the established leagues pretend to be a compass for fair paly they are as corrupt as other large organisation and don't even get me started on F1!

Sorry for the rant guys it's been a while and needed to get that of my chest.

Jonty

{Ed001's Note - there are always a number of footballers banned for drug usage by the FA that are allowed to attend rehab, rather than being named and shamed. The FA says that it is better to help them, rather than expose them to the public ridicule and contempt they might otherwise suffer which could destroy their career.

Personally, I think they just don't want people to realise just how riddled with drugs their game is. They want to maintain a certain image, which doesn't match even closely with the reality of copious use of 'social' drugs amongst footballers.}

 
Thanks for the response ED001 and I agree that the FA cover it up, they are a hypocritical bunch and I would go as far as saying they act like a Mafia these pampered knobs get paid more in a week then the normal man will get in a year and they think it's better to protect them and their (both players and the FA's) income then rid the sport of this, typical thinking of FA, you just got to look at the executives to notice that its an elite club, I have discussed here before that I am a referee at grass roots level and the first thing I was taught was that those who made it to the premier league panel not on ability but on who you know and it wrangles with me as I love the sport but hate the obvious corruption

{Ed001's Note - it will be interesting to see how far the investigation goes into match fixing etc. I can't see it being allowed to find much.}

 
There's a hell of a lot of things being covered up by the fa, I used to work in my local pub and one friday night a guy claiming to be part of a company that handled legal matters for footballers, was drinking at the bar. As the night wore on he was talking about being present during the infamous robbie fowler nightclub cocaine incident, he then went on to say how a certain man u defender (whose first name is the same as a brazilian city) was addicted to crack and kept missing urine tests on purpose. He said they all believed they are better than the rest of us and could basically do what they want. I think a lot of people know what goes on and don't want to believe it. I was sceptical with the guy in the pub but as time goes on I think its becoming more widespread.
Another conspiracy surrounding football is the way the league is set up to protect the top 8 teams as they generate more income than the rest of the uk leagues put together. So the fa, fifa and uefa protect these teams by changing the rules ( financial fair play et al) to consolidate their position. Just look at goal line technology and the way refs decide the outcome of games ( late penalties being a classic ). Every professional sport around the world has had cameras for decisions since the nineties at the latest why has football taken so long? Money would be the answer.
still love Sunderland fc mind!

 
We have all heard the rumours about certain players from our cities, the carrol rumour is strange as in, would his medical not show up any drug use from us to west ham?i admit he has been out of action a hell of a lot of time and I do agree that the fa would cover the drug use of class A players{ (pardon the pun)and yes lino totally agree about the top 6 clubs getting the benefit of doubt on many different decisions, it used to be the roar of the crowd that influenced refs now its how rich the clubs are (obviously better players as well) since the epl was formed its grew into a monster, I am drifting off track here but with winning games/points becoming the holy grail, you will see a ref getting jail for bribes sooner rather than later ala italy.

 
I think cocaine can come out of your system within 24 hours or so which can make it hard to pick up. Also it's not considered by the people in charge that it's performance enhancing so it's treated differently. On a similar note there has been no more mention in the news about the Spanish judges strange decision to destroy the several hundred blood bags of the Spanish medical team that was used by lance armstrong. They belonged to a variety of sportsmen. My guess would be Nadal and many Spanish players blood samples were there including Barca, Real Madrid and Valencia players. fuentes is quoted as saying that " if the world knew the truth about the Spanish national team then they would be stripped of the world and European cup".
My guess it's that's why it's being swept under the carpet and all being out onto lance armstrong. Nadal was out "injured" for quite some time when it all went on. Other differences in our drug testing in our football is that we in this country test blood and urine where as Spain and Italy test just urine. Image how much you could bend the rules by having regular blood transfusions to also flush your system of any substances. It would explain some of the so called strange results.

Supasub

 
You can also buy fake drug test kits! Where they will actually send you drug free urine! Think one website offers an attachable penis filled with urine incase they want you to do the test in front of them i. e military! :) google it there out there as crazy as it sounds

{Ed001's Note - Tyson has admitted using one, so they do work.}

 
The fake penis for passing drug tests is called the whizzinator! For legal reasons other fake penis's are available! :)

 
Didn't know that ed! I don't actually know what's involved with a footballers drug test or any other sports to be honest! Don't know wether it's just urine test or they do blood tests! I'm pretty sure if they wanted to pass the test they could!

 
Jack wilshire I heard did coke and he's been in trouble with law I heard that's why he was out so long its weird you said that. You are right about it taking 48 hours to get out your system cocaine is a rich mans drug premier league players do it and its also right that they are under the recreational drugs rules where its hidden so they can get help it happens all over the premier league

 
I also remeber reading a few years back that JW was in a Bar openly sniffing Coke and got a bit rowdy ( at thew time he had an injury) he ended up taking a beating and being out for longer. say maybe 4 years ago now?

ms85