09 Jan 2015 07:04:43
my take on the shooting is its a lot easier to kill than stage a false flag like in paris but seen a video of the shooting and no blood at all as he shoots the guy, not a splatter, youtube have took it down, this is the only site showing it.
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/can-you-shoot-someone-in-the-head-from-point-blank-range-and-there-be-no-blood-wtf/
more startling video about paris shooting.
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/france-false-flag-shooting-attackers-spliced-in-and-cops-cut-out-whilst-man-in-bullet-proof-vest-watches/
Cheers for the links sir! This does look like a conspiracy to me
Well it's going to look like a conspiracy because you's want it to be a conspiracy. Every major event that has happened (or not in the case of the Olympics) has been labelled conspiracy, false flag etc. not an ounce of remorse is shown to the victims in these cases. The bin lorry accident being the a prime example, full family ripped apart and all that concers the majority on here is that it must be a conspiracy as 'there wasn't enough deaths' or ' it stayed in a straight line'
{Ed001's Note - but what if it is a conspiracy? Is it not better to question than to just meekly accept?}
I am no expert on firearms but can anyone tell me why not a speck of blood is seen?i did post this on twitter and asked the same question and one guy said he could have missed, so I replied a guy in full combat gear who was a close range and missed? like I said it would be a hell of a lot easier to pay masked mercenaries to carry out the hit then blame it on Muslim radicals than a would be terrorist bring i'd to a hit then doh leave it in a car, I can not make head or tail of this but suspicion be taken on what we are being told on msm.
Looks to me like the guy in the video fired a blank in front of the guy on the ground.
Surely if it was faked there would be plenty of 'blood'? As soon as we stop questioning these events is where we lose respect for those that were killed.
I did notice, as I have in a couple of these 'terror' incidents, a couple of rental vans parked on the street. Something and nothing? Looked like a military op to me.
You have to admire the persistance of the nameless posters (s) who come on telling us we are deluded etc. but never offer any constructive explanations or debate, themselves.
You wonder why they would spend time on such a site in the first place!
Harold
I have a tv andoid that can get any news tv station in the the word and I just clicked on the first news station I could find when I heard about the other event in paris, I tuned in to http://www.i24news. tv/en/
never watched it before and never knew it was a Israeli tv station, no big deal the only thing is they are reporting stuff way before any other msm station, in fact they had there cameras videoing the police up the hill, uncanny that, another a uncanny fact is benjamin netanyahu warns France before the paris shooting about its stance over Palestine, and another coincidence is on the Israeli tv news the french foreign minister is in tel aviv now and him and netanyahu are in a joint tv interview addressing "the war on terror"
And we don't show an ounce of remorse either Harold. But at least we show our names.
Happy new year everyone.
Ryan.
I'm not saying this is right or wrong Franky or its a conspiracy or not, it's very convenient they left there ids yes but if they are Jihadists then they possibly left there i'd so they will eventually be found and killed then they become Martyrs as it is the highest honour for them I believe.
09 Jan 2015 18:15:53
Does putting a name on an internet forum matter?
I can see both sides. Yes there is a lot of highly suspect things going on in the world, various nasty acts committed by both sides, east and west, that are correctly called out on here as conspiracy.
However too often when some tragedy occurs there seems to be a rush to denounce it as a conspiracy, a set up, a false flag, even before any details are properly known.
It could be Israelis, but remember you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. One thing I feel that is constantly overlooked on here is the anti western feeling in the arab and muslim world easily stirred up by radicals. Again yes some of this may be the Americans and the Israelis (highly untrustworthy people) but its too easy to blame all if this on those rather than admitting an unsavoury truth and that you fail to understand a complex situation.
I will keep an open mind until I see more evidence either way.
Kim Philby
Assailants spoke perfect French, shot their targets inside with one shot, were wearing heavy body armour, escaped easily from the scene, no blood from head-shot to the copper, left i'd at the scene, everybody starts banging on about Muslims & immigrants (again).
Perfect fit-up.
09 Jan 2015 22:25:46
It isn't difficult to kill people with one shot from close range. All my brothers could kill a wolf at 50 yards by 15. And that's old army surplus rifles. A person from 6-12 feet away with a Kalashnikov really isn't tricky. The hardest part is the moral choice, which if your a fanatic, a sociopath or brainwashed isn't really that hard a decision. What do you think the training at army bases or terrorist training camps is for? Any fool can shoot someone from close range, its about over riding the conscience, the brutalisation and dehumanization makes it easier to kill. And its easier to do with young men who have grown up with a fanatical ideology, whether that's Catholicism, Zionism, Islam, nazism or communism. Once an impressionable mind has been warped anything is possible to program in.
Kim Philby
I tend to agree kim that we jump on incident and ideally I tend to wait a while before I jump on the conspiracy bandwagon but when you see a guy get shot point blank and not a trace of blood then questions start ringing in my head.
I'm of the same thoughts as Kim, think it could be but not 100% sure yet.
I think France has banned the burker? Plus there stance on the middle east will ruffle some feathers.
I know not everything is a conspiracy however with everything that's happened over the years you can hardly blame anyone for questioning such an act.
10 Jan 2015 00:46:39
I think its too easily used as the default option, o its mossad again. I think some people give them far too much credit.
As a woman and a feminist I find the burka offensive. Its also another example of how the original scripture has been twisted by fundamentalist fanatics into something else entirely.
Kim Philby
Are there muslim fanatics? of course there are, could they have done that attack?who knows?if there was a really a war on terror and like we are being told that there is basically there is nothing we could do then in my opinion these events would be happening most weeks all over the world, it does not really bother if its mossard or anyone else who planned this because the results of these actions will be the same (take your freedom away)now kim I will ask you , do you not find it strange a guy getting shot and not a trace of blood?
Franky not really no. What I find strange is if there had been enough credible threats against the magazine that the police thought it warranted having a police guard on the premises, then how come it happened to start with.
If they want to erode our freedoms then they can do it anytime they want without concocting a farce every few months. Its already being done anyway.
I've seen a few people on twitter crying conspiracy because the two brothers had their i'd cards on them. But anyone who knows France knows you have to have your i'd card on you, especially when driving, in case the police stop you. Same as here, or Spain. Also as they wanted their identity, and their cause, known. Its about the publicity.
Kim Philby
10 Jan 2015 13:01:47
The guy with no name has a point, every thing that happens there is something to it, but mate, you can't just shoot the conspiracists down, you can disagree, but no be a muppet about it.
I don't believe many conspiracies at all, but this sounds fishy.
I disagree kim they can not erode our freedom without a valid reason or threat, even the sleeping sheep would not tolerate that, as for your point about i'd cards in France.
1 needed i'd cards in case they got stopped by police? if they were going on a killing spree that day another two cops are not going to be a big deal.
2 real jihadist make a video before a attack not leave i'd cards and if they wanted their identities known why have a balaclava on?
3 you still do not think its strange that a gunshot leaves no blood?
now we find out the Police commissioner who had been investigating the attack decides to commit suicide, this is not as cut and dry as the media paint out.
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150111/1016754353.html
{Ed033's Note - good points, frankyscouser
An event, presented as related to that in France, has taken place in Germany: http://tinyurl.com/kh9eahf
Let us see if the Germans will make use of their army of mercenaries. Perhaps they will even establish a Command center in Cyprus, to oversee possible operations around the Mediterranean.
zari
Just wanted to reply to the unnamed poster, firstly the word remorse means showing regret for something you have done, seen as none of us on here had anything to do with the bin lorry crash, it would be impossible to show remorse. I think (i'm guessing here) what you meant is empathy, and whilst I personally think that it was just a tragic accident, I'm sure everyone on here who questioned the official story, still were capable of being empathetic towards the victims, and their families.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and your post shows pure ignorance, in terms of grammar, and to the bigger picture of what is going on in the world. But by all means keep watching bbc news and reading the s*n.
Jase
12 Jan 2015 17:30:26
Franky if they got stopped on a routine traffic stop with no i'd and shot the police that stopped them then it creates a big alert. That stops them carrying out their mission or makes it harder to succeed.
Fair point on balaclavas but there is the intimidation factor. Its more scary.
Not sure on videos, but the supermarket guy did one which looked odd so who knows.
Kim Philby
Might make it harder to carry out their attack yes but for me if I was prepared to die for a cause that day I would not be thinking "right were is my i'd card?"
and yes you could be right balaclavas could be used as a intimidation tactic but if someone is carrying a ak47 that's plenty of intimidation for me.
to be more balanced in this topic I should point out there is suggestions that the shot to the officer in the video missed, hence no blood.
only thing I can think off is one of three scenarios.
1 he deliberately missed to keep him on the floor then I believe he got killed with the 2nd shot which is plausible.
2 he missed his shot from a couple of yards, which would be strange.
3 there were blanks in the gun.
like I have said from the very start it is a lot easier to pay or allow masked mercenaries to carry out this mission than say stage a false flag and for the record I do think people died that day but this was allowed to happen.
13 Jan 2015 13:49:03
People can miss from that range, especially if inexperienced and your running on adrenalin. The first option is the most plausible.
The point I was making on the id, is why run the risk when your on a mission. The whole thing is to not draw attention to yourself on the way, you want to get there and do what you came for, after that then depends on the end game. I spent many years travelling from home to various parts of the world, constantly going through customs and the rest so that colours my thinking. But if these guys were terrorists, then who originally trained their trainers? Certainly cia at some point, so they may have mentioned the basics.
Kim Philby
We could go around in circles all day about how why or who, to my thinking it was not Islamic fundamentalist who killed those people.
13 Jan 2015 22:15:55
We could indeed babushka however I've opened a fresh bottle and bbc4 is showing smileys people with Alec Guinness so its a farewell from me.
Kim Philby
My dad loved watching that, never really interested me as a kid, I might watch it when I get time.
14 Jan 2015 18:20:43
Its old classic drama, yes its slow, but it makes me nostalgic. Fortunately was only a small bottle too. You can pick up the box set of that and tinker tailor fairly cheap, give it a try.
Kim Philby