26 Dec 2021 23:48:02
Shops in North Yorkshire are now displaying large posters with "It's The Law' followed by instructions to wear masks.

I've just emailed North Yorkshire Council who produce them the following ..
Dear Sirs,

I notice that you have produced posters for shops in North Yorkshire. On these posters it states the the wearing of masks in these shops is "The Law'.
May I point out that it is not a law. The advice regarding the wearing of masks falls under The Health Protection Regulations of 2020.
A regulation is in itself not a Law and the irony is that it is not 'lawful' to proclaim a 'Law' is in effect when it clearly is not. There is the possibility that a non specified regulation has the force of law, since it may have been adopted under authority granted by statute but this does not entitle the claim of 'Law'. This is a clear mis-representation.
Therefore I would request and suggest that all materials proclaiming this mis-truth be removed as a matter of urgency. If this is not completed within the next fourteen days then I will reserve the right to challenge this 'error' by legal means.

Kind regards

Don't suppose it will have any effect but we have to keep doing the small things where we can.

{Ed032's Note - Keep us posted with any responses please, Tj70.

I know you are right with what you have written but I am ashamed to admit this is an area where I sadly lack a lot of knowledge. This is something I am working on changing, I don't like being 'dumb' or 'ignorant' but I find it so overwhelming I am those very 2 things.

Ed033 has supplied me with David Wards case no WI 05257F and his 61 page affidavit to focus my attention on. I do realise what the basics are but it is how to imply them with reference to things like you have for example. The Health Protection Regulations 2020. I just feel I know nothing in this regard and as stated, get overwhelmed, lost and second guess myself making me feel incredibly frustrated and stupid.

I will continue to chip away at the subject as that is all I can do. I hate feeling this way.

Thanks for your post.

 
27 Dec 2021 09:02:51
Well composed and articulate letter Tj. Will be interesting to see if they reply. Have you offered a copy of your letter to any of the shops you mentioned?

 
27 Dec 2021 09:26:10
Great work Tj70 ??

{Ed032's Note - Hi, Lickyfeilds_M7. Welcome to the site and thanks for joining in with the last live-chat.

 
27 Dec 2021 12:55:44
No probs Ed, I’m visiting more and more now so no doubt I’ll be chirping in haha

{Ed032's Note - Good to hear, Lickyfields_M7. Great to have another new poster.

 
27 Dec 2021 22:15:05
Cheers Ed, M7 and Rian.

I haven't taken the letters to the shops directly Rian for two reasons, firstly I'm hoping (probably wrongly) that the email will do the work for me and secondly with North Yorks being so large the logistics to get to them all would involve many weeks work unfortunately.

Ed, I will certainly keep you informed of any developments, fingers crossed. As regards your knowledge of the legal side of things I'd say that all of us should be confident of saying when we don't have a full understanding of something. There are many areas you have more understanding than I do. With regard to the legal side, although I have an interest and have had for many years there is no way I would consider myself an expert. Let's say it's a work in process!

I think the PDF's above that you have posted are going to keep me busy for the next few weeks, many thanks, they are a brilliant source, many thanks to Ed33 as well.

{Ed032's Note - Thanks for keeping us posted regarding the email, Tj70.

Another regular on here has posted some links to peter stone's work which is appreciated.

The PDF's and Peter stone's website were presented to me by the great Ed033. There seriously isn't a day that goes by when I am not completely staggered by just how much Ed knows and understands. He has well and truly earned every single one of those thirty three degree's and it's an honour and pleasure to help him on this site.

Regarding the law/legal, I know of more than I think but just unaware of just how to use it. The PDF's above and Peter Stone's work top off with a sprinkling of Ed033 guidance is beginning to make everything make sense. It is just going to take some time to process all the information.

There may well be a little extra on this site sometime to give this topic it's own space. We shall see :)