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14 Nov 2015 21:55:13
Why do terrorists carry passports?

It's not like they want us to know what country they apparently come from, is it?

Or do 'they'?

In no way is this insensitive, but why is it that passports suddenly turn up?

DaveyBootle

{Ed033's Note - typically because they're told to or a passport is placed or 'found' by a government agency so we can be told who the 'terrorist(s)' is/are.


1.) 14 Nov 2015 23:02:14
The good ol bomb proof/ bullet proof/ fire proof/ blood proof/ blown to pieces in an aeroplane proof indestructible passport.


2.) 14 Nov 2015 23:08:43
I know.

I stress that tongue-in-cheek.

That old chestnut.

An act of war they say.

They've wanted this act of war for a number of years.

Them poor people suffer at the extremes of the sadistic elite.

Very sad.


3.) 14 Nov 2015 23:16:30
Or so that anyone who claims responsibility can use it as evidence to back up that claim.


4.) 15 Nov 2015 02:08:39
I consider myself to be open minded andiintelligent. After this event I became for a few hours at least an islamaphobe. This is not me, but how many (I do not mean to be up myself) less intelligent folk, have had their "switches flicked"? Is this the nwo, IS, or whatever controlling the masses? I have never felt such hate (albeit a short timeframe.

{Ed001's Note - I deleted multiple posts across the football sites talking about how 'Muslims hate us' yesterday. People just jump on a bandwagon and that is an easy one with plenty of space for all to hop aboard, sadly. Reminds me of the days following Indira Ghandi's assassination at the hands of her Sikh bodyguards, when Hindus were murdering Sikhs in their thousands throughout India.}


5.) 15 Nov 2015 04:57:37
bankier bhoy
I think we all thought along them lines at one point so please, don't beat yourself up about it, its all about keeping that open mind.
There are far too many people out there who are incapable of thinking for themselves that will always believe what the MSM tells them to think, its hard not to listen to the news because its always there trying to manipulate minds.
Sites like this one are far more credible than any TV news channels, we all know that MSM is controlled by the elitists of the world. These are the people that have kicked the hornets nest. World leaders are the puppets who do the dirty work.
Just remember who created isis/isil and research things for yourself, my advice will always be do not believe anything that the news tells you.
IMO our world leaders are the ones with blood on their hands.


6.) 15 Nov 2015 08:12:08
John Lennon.


7.) 15 Nov 2015 11:49:51
let me make this very clear, there are genuine terrorist out there who will die for their cause but also most if not all of them make a video beforehand, to my knowledge this has not happened, I did tweet about this when the passport was found . as soon as they found the syrian passport it made it a lot easier for things that are coming up in the coming weeks funny enough

g2o meeting in tukey
tories want to go into syria/lab have been waiting for there plans for months, bingo this is back on the agenda.
snooping charter proposals have more teeth to it now.

in my opinion this was a military style hit, can anyone tell me why no cctv pictures have emerged in the capital of france where on average we are caught on camera 7 times a minute?


8.) 15 Nov 2015 13:55:10
Franky that's why they have training camps. To learn military tactics. Its hardly a new thing. Remember all those camps in Libya where Gaddafi trained the ira. Not to mention the ones in Afghanistan where the jihadis were trained by the west. Those that were trained became the trainers.


9.) 15 Nov 2015 14:52:27
normal tactic kim to take your passport? and only images seen are from the public not cctv?


10.) 15 Nov 2015 16:14:51
Franky you need to understand the mind set of a fanatic. Your looking at it from a western mind set.

Id imagine the cctv footage has been seized as part of the police investigation. That comes first rather than satisfying media curiosity.


11.) 15 Nov 2015 16:22:41
The problem with this site is too many are too keen to play pin the blame rather than accepting the truth.


12.) 15 Nov 2015 16:46:14
As I keep saying look at the house of Saud and the Wahhabis. The source of most of the trouble in the middle east.


13.) 15 Nov 2015 17:43:17
Coming from the community I did growing up and going to school with guys. Running around going dances etc. I can safely say none in my area went to Libya to train.


14.) 15 Nov 2015 19:12:09
Kim I'm with you mate. There is lunatics out there and I have no doubt that the people responcible are Muslim/Syrian extremists . But I also believe that the hornets nest has been kicked to start a chain of events.


15.) 15 Nov 2015 19:34:42
There is no doubting that there are Muslim/Syrian/Iraq/Iranian/African etc terrorists that are hell bent on destruction but consider this.
The people who have bombed these country's to oblivion are what exactly? IMO they are exactly the same, terrorists.


16.) 15 Nov 2015 23:15:14
If The West (US, UK etc) wasn't directly involved then they at least knew about the plot and chose to do little to prevent it. That's my opinion.
With all the surveillance and monitoring we experience on a daily basis, I find it impossible to believe that no one knew this attack was coming.
This incident is uncannily perfect for them at the moment. When public support for the wars in The Middle East are on the wane, oh look, here's a Syrian, Muslim terrorist. Another excuse to continue our destabilisation of that area as well as removing yet more rights and freedoms this side of the world.
Alternatively - say this was a genuine terrorist attack. What purpose does all this surveillance/ data control serve? IF YOU CAN'T STOP TERRORIST ATTACKS THEN GIVE ME BACK MY FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS! Sorry for shouting.


17.) 16 Nov 2015 01:01:25
I have calmed down down and back to my own (question everything) self. However with regards to extremism I KNOW for certain UK people are going to Syria to fight/die for this cause. My town of East Kilbride just outside Glasgow has had a Scottish born (Pakistani) origin leave here to join IS. This has not been reported in any way however he was a customer of the (Muslim / Indian curry house and kebab shop I worked for). He was a good tipper and an engineer. He was always a bit of a stoner until about 6-10 months ago he all of a sudden had cut his long hair and had grown a beard. Previously his friends were mostly white (presumably Christians). So yes IS is real but how or why are generally normal some would say secular Muslims going to join this cause??


18.) 16 Nov 2015 07:57:06
To monitor 2000 suspects 24 hours a day 7 days a week would take somewhere in the region of 50000 personnel. 3 times the current size of mi5. Even the kgb in its heyday would have struggled with that task. Although the kgb would have just rounded them all up and shot them. Easier and cheaper.


19.) 16 Nov 2015 08:27:38
That's what needs to be done. You can fight these people by threatening to take them to the headteacher and give them lines.


20.) 16 Nov 2015 10:03:24
kim you mention the kgb would have took no chances if it meant the country could be under attack in the future, I think every western country would do exactly the same (not as crudely as the old soviet union) but let's just say bogus charges/accidents and deaths related to gang culture would be used to take out any extremists that could attack the establishment .


21.) 16 Nov 2015 08:44:02
As an example say you leave the house and go to the big shopping centre to do your Christmas shopping. It would take a team of a minimum of 6 in rotating patterns. More like 10. And that's on foot. And every person you speak to has to be checked. As we're using Hollywood films as the standard of realism watch the 3rd Bourne film in the train station and count how many are there.


 

 

05 Sep 2015 23:20:44
It was only a small number of years ago now that parliament rejected any British involvement in Air Strikes and acts of war against Syria, but today, our very own chancellor has hinted that British forces may need to step on to ground in Syria to oust Isis and Assad, declaring Assad as an 'evil regime'.

Of course, the recent news on refugees is sickening to the stomach, but I can't help think that the powers-that-be have got their creepy little excuse now to invade as 'freedom fighters' by causing more death and problems to an already deathly situation.

I've been waiting for this moment for a number of years as the U.S. And Britain have been waiting for an excuse to a problem probably influenced by the CIA and MI6.

Who else do we think has funded this Isis debacle?!

All planned, and planned at the expense of innocent Syrians as an excuse to invade for reasons that we will never understand.

They've destroyed Iraq, Libya and next Syria and Iran.

A sickening time to live in and a sickening era to call ourselves 'British'.

p.s. I'm aware of a lad by mine training in the Scottish Highlands with his regiment over two years ago now who were all told they were being prepared for Syria.

DaveyBootle

{Ed033's Note - ISIS was created by the Anglo/American/Israeli cabal and is probably funded by Saudi Arabia and the American tax payers.

In order to take out Iran, they have decided that they have to take out Syria first. For various reasons they are behind schedule in taking out Assad and Syria.

i don't know why Iran is so important to take out, as part of their agenda, but there is a long term agenda for the expansion of Israel into something which is being called at the moment, "Greater Israel", which would eventually cover the whole of the Middle East and Turkey as Turkey is currently run by Jews, who took over Turkey during the 'Young Turks' takeover. If Syria is taken out, it would allow Israel to start the expansion.

i'll say it again for people, ISIS stands for, It's Still Israel, Stupid.


1.) 06 Sep 2015 00:28:39
The I word is difficult to even type.

I'm aware of the influence of Saudi Arabia but suspect this is a collective issue driven by the Americans (albeit with some rich pickings for the other conspirator countries!)

It would make sense that Turkey is driven in to Syria with all their national reserve forces, but I suspect this would potentially create a religious divide in Turkey and may be difficult.

Thanks for the informative info.


2.) 06 Sep 2015 01:11:12
Corbyn could be a spanner in the works. He wants ISIS removed but by asking all the right questions. Who's funding them , who's training them etc. Of course he knows. But the fact he want to wash the establishment's linen in public won't go down too well.
Food taster required?

{Ed033's Note - it's obvious though that if Corbyn gets anywhere and then causes trouble, then he'll be the recipient of a heart attack inducing, microwave weapon (the same as John Smith and Robin Cook)


3.) 06 Sep 2015 10:05:23
The Assad regime is a nasty piece of work. As I've said before I have spent time in the middle east as part of a diplomatic fact finding mission, with special relevance to certain topics that are classified. This took in trips to Damascus, Baghdad, and others. Now ill state i'm not an arab specialist, I was there partly because it was a crap assignment that no one wanted and I was at the time in the dog house. But also because I wasn't an arabist I was also an unbiased observer.

Bear in mind as a soviet citizen I was used to seeing people fear a secret police. But the middle east was a whole different level. I certainly didn't shed any tears for Hussein.

Now let's agree that the arab spring was stirred up by certain intelligence agencies. The fact remains that the conditions had to exist for people to be receptive. And anyone living under a dictatorship will be receptive. As the editor said the other day an imposed regime will always collapse.

Now for me the interesting thing is two years ago. When the west wanted to intervene but were blocked. The resulting vacuum created Isis and the refugee crisis.

{Ed033's Note - When the west wanted to intervene and were blocked, they (the west) created ISIS as the 'unblocker'. ISIS is too well funded and too organised to be anything else but a west creation.


4.) 06 Sep 2015 13:16:28
I worry for Corbyn.

The spin and propaganda against him is nothing short of bullying, but what did we expect?

I see the anti Semite label is well and truly being flung at him, even though he categorically denies this.

He's a brave man, but with respect t to him - at his age, why not stir it up by sticking to his principles?


5.) 06 Sep 2015 12:20:33
Well its Saudi funded and there funds come from the petrol.

The difficulty for me is how you balance the pro Zionist faction working with an anti Zionist faction to create Isis.

{Ed033's Note - You're thinking at the political level when there is big picture level as well. But the history of the Saud family should suggest that they have to do as they're told otherwise they're out of Saudi Arabia and another Arab family will be put in their place.

i heard that the Saud family partially funded 9/11 and whether that's true or not it doesn't matter as the Saud family are asked for money and they give it, or they're out.


6.) 06 Sep 2015 17:35:30
Fair enough but we can prove the political level. Anything above that is speculation. Certainly well informed speculation but can you prove it? If we could would we be sat here now?


7.) 06 Sep 2015 17:44:47
Regards corbyn his own associations will provide enough ammunition for his opponents.

I applaud him for his refusal to once share a platform with Nick griffin of the bnp saying he doesn't stand on stage with racists. Now that's a great principle. Griffin and his cohorts are pond slime.

But he's shared a platform with Islamic fundamentalists many of whom hold views as abhorrent as Nick griffin, certainly in terms of misogyny, homophobia, and racism.

So what's the difference? Where's the principle there?

I get the argument that to sort out the issues you have to engage with this sort of person. But it looks too much like he supports these people with his claims that the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah are harmless. Truth is they're fanatics with a publicly admitted aim of genocide. Now if they stuck to something along the lines of we're just fighting to preserve our people and obtain our homeland etc and made the Israelis look like the aggressors that they are they could get more support. But an avowed aim of achieving that homeland by genocide is unsupportable. And by associating with such people damages both corbyn and the labour party.


8.) 06 Sep 2015 17:48:43
Lastly I believe an element of the Saud family knew of the plan, approved it and supported it. But its a large family.

That bin laden received help from both contacts inside the Saud family and the business that farms in Virginia as well.


 

 

 

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15 May 2016 00:19:24
Rupert is Jewish Rian.

Tyson Fury has to contend with the prejudicial opinions of the British public on a daily basis.

If he wants to highlight his opinions, then good on him as it just so happens that he speaks the truth, albeit naively.

In fact, from a personal point of view I would consider Tyson's community no different than that of the Jewish community, whom have both been persecuted over the centuries and have sustained relentless prejudices and persecution from all walks of life, whether or not it's related to a religious ideology.

For them reasons, even though I'm not keen on the lad and think he's an overrated boxer, I say good on him as he's in a good enough position as anyone to express his opinions (and which I totally agree with)

Daveybootle

{Ed007's Note - Are you sure Murdoch's Jewish, Davey? I remember seeing a programme where they interviewed his vicar/minister (definitely not an RC priest) a few years ago and I also recall his church was dragged into it over something about him broadcasting porn.
You might be right but I'd have him down as a non RC Christian. I would say Protestant because that's really it is in Scotland, RC or Protestant, but I don't know the difference between Presbyterian and Evangical or Methodist etc and don't want to offend anyone or their religion.
Scotland's probably the only country in the world where if you told someone you were Jewish they'd ask if you were a Catholic Jew or Protestant Jew!}


 

 

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14 Nov 2015 23:08:43
I know.

I stress that tongue-in-cheek.

That old chestnut.

An act of war they say.

They've wanted this act of war for a number of years.

Them poor people suffer at the extremes of the sadistic elite.

Very sad.

DaveyBootle

 

 

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06 Sep 2015 13:16:28
I worry for Corbyn.

The spin and propaganda against him is nothing short of bullying, but what did we expect?

I see the anti Semite label is well and truly being flung at him, even though he categorically denies this.

He's a brave man, but with respect t to him - at his age, why not stir it up by sticking to his principles?

DaveyBootle

 

 

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06 Sep 2015 00:28:39
The I word is difficult to even type.

I'm aware of the influence of Saudi Arabia but suspect this is a collective issue driven by the Americans (albeit with some rich pickings for the other conspirator countries!)

It would make sense that Turkey is driven in to Syria with all their national reserve forces, but I suspect this would potentially create a religious divide in Turkey and may be difficult.

Thanks for the informative info.

DaveyBootle

 

 

 

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