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08 Jan 2014 19:42:49
Right I am sure your all famaliar with conspiracy of 2pac faking his death in Las Vegas on Sept 13th 1996, there are some anomilies on how he got there. his family say they drove but his personal security say they flew from New York in a helicopter. however he was there to watch a boxing match.

he was supposedly received threats before he left. he was photo'd clean shaven (this is important as we'll see). he left the venue and got in the car with his manager and guards going around to clubs. now the last photo of him, he's in the front passenger seat with a goatee beard! Now down the road they stop at the red light, a white car pulls up beside and opens fire on tupacs side according to a reporter. on scene he was medivaced to hospital while being put into an ambulance behind her!

Reports suggest he died from bullet wounds to the chest. unusual for someone who ALWAYS wore a bullet proof vest. after his "death" autopsy, reports showing incorrect weight and height. also reported sightings of him since and every year on his birthday his mother visits Cuba where he is reported to be living.
Your thoughts?

BigRed

1.) I think he is dead, its a bit like the elvis and mccartney stories that go around that gives anti conspiracy skeptics ammo.


2.) Have you ever really looked into it Franky? It's got so much more to it than the Elvis or McCartney story's or any other dead Celeb in my opinion it's a great conspiracy. Like Big Red said there's video sightings on YouTube that are interesting but not conclusive. Also songs released after he was dead mentioning thing like Beyonces Destinys Child & Obama. Like I said


3.) He wasn't taken to hospital at the shooting scene Suge Knight drove away from the scene away further away from hospital he also claimed he was grazed by bullet in his forehead whilst throwing himself over 2pac doctors have said that's a lie he had a bump from hitting his head on dashboard.

If he did fake his death he did it to get away from Suge Knight, Suge paid £1.4 mil to get 2pac out on bail in return for 2pac making 3 studio albums well 2pac was a workhorse he had all the material done in months and was pissed that Suge turned 2 albums into 1 (All Eyes On Me) which left him with still 2 albums on his deal he wanted out of Death Row so he could start Makeveli Records he was a slave to Suge he obviously got paid royalties from older albums and got paid for the shows and movies whilst at Death Row but Suge wasn't paying him as he already did when he got him out of jail.

Suge had all LAPD bent cops as Death Row security when they wasn't on duty remember the Rampart scandal well they all worked for death Row and did you know that when Notorious BIG was killed in LA lil cease who was sat in back said it was a police officer who walked up to car and opened fire. Suge got wind of the fact 2pac wanted out and realised that at the rate he was making tracks he would be free from his contract in no time so he decided if he got him killed he will still be making him money.

Suge instigated the fight at the casino with Orlando Anderson to give somebody else a motive to want to kill him. Suge ordered Frank Alexander, 2pac personal bodyguard to get in car behind with 2pac's crew Outlawz and made 2pac not wear his vest. he then drove a longer route to his club taking a detour when the call pulled up and opened fire, police found 2 different shell casings 1 was found inside their car the car that opened fire was the distraction to Suge pumping rounds from his gun into 2pac.

the best cover up. the thing was he didn't plan on him surviving. Suge was not allowed to see him at the hospital, kept getting turned away. if 2pac did survive in hospital he would know it was Suge and knew there was no other way out then having to fake his death. this was the 2nd time in 2 years people tried to murder him this time it was from somebody close to him, somebody he couldn't get away from because he worked for him.

There are lots of things to say he didn't die that night the 1 that stands out to me is a song called All Out he says quite a few things like "You're wondering who shot me" then in some really low voice he says "nobody" in the same song he says "you killed Kadaffi murdered my friend now I built a new posse" Kadaffi was in the Outlawz and got killed the month after 2pac died after being the only person to police he could identify 2pac's killer how could 2pac say that if he was dead sorry bout long post but I know all about this as I grew up on 2pac I remember where I was when I heard he was dead


4.) Yeah mate I have read and watched a few documentaries about tupac, sorry guys I just don't see it, I know autopsies pictures can be faked but t definitely looks like tupac, as for lyrics about him in songs being alive the same thing got saI'd about certain Beatles songs hinting McCartney being dead, you guys will know a he'll of a lot mire than me about tupac and it was interesting reading your point. , I just can not see it mate!


5.) 09 Jan 2014 00:36:17
In the lyrics to all out he mentions muammar gaddafi not yaki kadafi who was the one killed after pac was killed as for the line murder my friends built a new posse he means he murdered his old posse who where called thug life not literally murdered though lol because in his own words thug life the group/posse where not acting right so he built his new group/posse tha outlawz as for the song all out it is one of the last songs he recorded before going to Vegas and sadly dying the other songs recorded where hell for a hustler and some speculate that letz get ready to rumble was also part of that last recording session and said song was used as an intro to mike tysons fight against Bruce seldon 2pac fan


6.) Regarding the name he used later on Makaveli. 2pac read a lot including a 18th century (I think) Italian war general who had the idea of faking your death to fool your enemies and also not sure if it still is or not but in 1996 in the state of Navada it was legal to fake your death. he's said to still make music as kasinova tha don they sound very similar rap about the same things.


7.) ASBO's being replaced by IPNA's.

http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/17380

M


 

 

04 Jan 2014 21:58:24
So the hacker that died in June of "suicide" a week before a meeting of hackers where the FBI were asked not to show up, turns out he "consumed" a cocotion of drugs including cocaine, heroine and so on, I say consumed in speech marks as this is clearly a set up with such a mix of drugs.

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02 Jan 2014 00:16:53
So I'd thought we should go through which conspiracies we know for defenite are true such as the Hillsborough Disaster, 9/11, JFK anyone care to add?

BigRed

1.) Horse meat inclusion in products, subway "eat fresh", (believe me I know this is not true from personal experience).
I'd put my house (well maybe not) on the Diana "accident" not being an accident. Too many loose ends.

Supasub


2.) I think what every person knows as truth is subjective.

Nevertheless, here's a few of the top of my head.

Suppression of spirituality, suppression of knowledge (book "burning"), suppression of science, suppression of technologies, suppression of archeology, behavioral modification in favor of the establishment in formal education and mass entertainment, alteration of past event accounts, artificial scarcity, planned obsolescence, the establishment divide and conquer practices which have kept humanity from maturing, privately owned central banks manipulating countries, organized religion manipulating the people, secret governance, secret societies (Masonry), incapacitating corruption in all positions of authority, manipulation of human thinking processes through all frequency emitting devices (wireless internet, radio, mobile phone), faking of the moon landings, weather manipulation, the desolation of nature and the artificiality of environment serving as a spiritual shock delivering mechanism, purposefully oversimplified and dualistic languages limiting consciousness etc.

I'll stop there so it does not become too long of a list.
Zari


3.) Suppression of energy seems to be at the root of all this mess, Zari, essentially it's the same as the first thing in your list and progresses, spirals from there. pea


4.) Spot on pea.
Zari


 

 

20 Dec 2013 16:02:46
What are your thoughts on the moon landing I recall there was supposed to be recordings of Armstrong saying "looks like our little friends are back" regarding aliens on the moon so my theory is the landing was real however when the footage was viewed UFO's were in the backround so they had to reshoot here on earth, what do ye think?

BigRed

1.) I really am 50/50 on whether we went to the moon, can see both sides of arguments.

{Ed033's Note - imo, humans go to the moon using black technology but the Apollo video was faked to hide what the moon is really like.
Watch this video to see the moon in its real full colour and some of the non-natural anomalies there

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/108630/Jose_Escamilla_Celestial__720p/


2.) Ed could you explain why, if the moon has colour, that we see it as a grey object? I full agree that the moon landings are fake but we did go to the moon with black tech. Supposedly something like out of stargate.

Red Rout

{Ed033's Note - When they show us the moon in pictures or in video, they desaturate the colour. As can be seen in the above video, when Bill Bryson zooms into the moon through his telescope/camera setup, the colours can be seen but from afar the colours of the moon are not distinguishable.


3.) Edd033 I will check out the link tomorrow and let you know what I think.


4.) I don't believe the apollo astronauts ever made it to the moon. The Van Allen radiation belts have been described by James Van Allen as a Sea of Deadly Radiation. This is the reason why the space shuttle has never gone more than 385 miles above the earth. Or indeed any other space flight other than the alleged apollo missions.

Ryan.


5.) About 20 years ago I went on a school trip I am guessing science museum and I am sure they had what they called rocks from the moon. If the landings were facked can't some scientists do some tests and prove or dis prove it
Negative red walter


6.) 22 Dec 2013 14:15:26
A lot of the rocks were gathered by remote controlled probes, robots don't mind radiation. It will be interesting to see what goes on with the Chinese.


7.) Well if the "experts" at NASA say its from the moon no mainstream scientist will question them, and if someone does they are called nuts and are discredited ruining their career, but then again the rocks could well be from the moon


8.) Finally got round to watching the link and the definite thing I can see with my own eyes is the moon is not barren, the amount of water on the planet was amazing, the structures are 50/50 to me in other words not conclusive, so every scientist with a decent telescope would have to the no the truth? sky at night for example.


9.) I've always thought moon rock was meteorite debris. Not that difficult to imagine.

This article from a few years ago disproves my theory though, and is unintentionally hilarious.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

Ryan.


10.) Read 'who built the moon'


 

 

15 Dec 2013 17:41:32
A while ago someone asked where everyone was from, I was wondering what age are the regs, you don't have to answer if you don't want to I'm 18 by the way.

BigRed

1.) 37

Supaub


2.) One of the oldest if not thee oldest 45


3.) 32 but stI'll feel 25. just.

Matty b


4.) 31, have no time for trolls, vampires, bobble-heads or morons. pea


5.) I could beat you for that yet Frankie. Also 45 until June.

Captain Needa


6.) 39
red rrab


7.) 15 Dec 2013 21:58:23
17 + Australia

Aron


8.) Me to captain, am 46 next june the 3rd

{Ed003's Note - this is great 2 people are older than me lol.}


9.) Glad I made your day edd ha


10.) 38, Brighton, UK.


11.) 28, harold


12.) 45, 46 October 8th,


13.) I top trump you all, I read this page every other day and i'm 51

Vambo


14.) Vambo ty my friend I am not the oldest.


15.) 15, negativeredwalter


16.) 44 and living in Montserrat, Caribbean


17.) 83

Mort






PS not really just thought I'd have a wee joke. 33


 

 

 

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Lukaku has called for the FA not to charge Anelka they now want Lukaku to step down from the anti-racism board, you can say whatever you want as long as its what they want you to say

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A lot of my friends who think I am a bit nuts when it comes to this feel this way (as do I) when you keep being pushed and pushed and laughed at its a matter of not if but when we push back.

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On the behalf of Ireland thanks for the complements, the Irish famine is interesting alright although I think it was more of a case of taking advantage of a bad situation. With all these taxes coming in water charge and property tax I'm fairly sure that's against our civil rights for free water and free roof over our heads.

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Depends what your looking for you have the ones from other countries ie. chemtrails/contrails corrupt government, vaccines or natural ones such as lake monsters, mountain men, leprechauns, fairies

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Watching Fast Five last night (brillant movie) the drug lord Reyes is talking about how to control people saying being ruthless doesn't work as they would fight back as they have nothing to loose, so he gave them things like schools running water and electricity etc to loose so they can't fight back.

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