29 Oct 2021 12:47:43
Ok, let's ask Standard about a more complex Physics based Moon issue.
Let's see how 'bright' you are Standard and see if you can come up with a 'brilliant' answer:
As you're a Physics Student, based on the Inverse Square Law of Light and the resolution of the Human Eye, how many Lumens does the Moon need to output based on its alleged size and distance from Earth for the average human (who is standing on Earth nearest to the Moon) to see it? (assuming the Standard response is that during a New Moon, the Moon 'reflects' zero Lumens and that's why we can't see a New Moon).
29 Oct 2021 14:38:20
Not sure what the question is but I think you're a little bit confused. Lumens is total quantity of visible light emitted from a source. The moon isn't a light source, it reflects light from the sun. So i'm not really sure what your asking.
Why can we see the moonlight even though it's 200000 km away or whatever it is? Because we're seeing the entire moon face reflect the light, not a small surface patch of the moon. Hope this clarifies, your question didn't really make much sense.
{Ed033's Note - Ok, this site is too advanced for you? You have to first realise and acknowledge that if i put any light source 1 inch from your eyes, and then move the light source away from your eyes, the further the light source is moved away, the dimmer the light. This is the Inverse Square Law of Light.
29 Oct 2021 17:28:33
I could talk all day about light rays, the bending of, the reflection of, the refraction of etc (my degree and my career as an optician) but I'll just say one thing Standard. the irony is that the moon IS a light source.
29 Oct 2021 18:22:28
You are being unfair to Standard Ed, what you are saying is not correct. It may seem preposterous that with the photon model of light that a large shell of emitted electrons would eventually get so thinned out after light-years of travel they would still be visible or detectable even. But brightness is what diminishes, not the photons themselves. If even a couple photons per second from that point in the sky make it to your eye, then it's visible. The more photons, the more brightness. It will never be zero. Out of 300 billion stars in the Milky Way only about 9,000 stars are close enough and bright enough to be visible to the naked eye. That is brighter than magnitude 6.5, the traditional criterion for naked-eye visibility.
In total their combined light isn't much. Their combined magnitude is almost exactly –5. The Sun is 487,530,000 times brighter than the 9000 visible stars in total which says that the light from these 9000 stars is 0.0000002 % of the total starlight hitting the Earth.
{Ed033's Note - Let's take this step by step. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but everyone:
Specifically, why don't we see the New Moon?
29 Oct 2021 21:07:56
The moon does not create light, it reflects sunlight. When the moon lies between the Earth and the Sun, it is only the back side of the moon that is lit by the Sun. In this situation the side of the moon facing the Earth is not able to reflect any light at all and appears dark.
{Ed033's Note - This is repeating the mainstream version, we try to use our own brains on here.
29 Oct 2021 21:20:53
I have a question for Ed and the flat earthers. I don’t believe this theory but I also don’t believe everything I’m told and am prepared to listen to the other side of an argument and have watched all the videos posted here. However, the flat earth videos do contain a lot of contradictions and bad science. For example, many I have seen state the sun and moon are in fact only about 4 miles above us. Some of these same videos then also say that we have never visited the moon and can’t get out of near earth orbit.
Now I don’t believe in flat earth or the moon conspiracy, but if their assertions are true then
1) Standard air flights are at 5-7 miles up, so we would be flying above the sun and moon
2) Referring back to point 1, there would be no near earth orbit as our planes are already above the moon and so could presumably land on it :)
{Ed033's Note - If you had watched all the videos posted here, you would be aware that it's most likely that the Sun and Moon that we see are projections / reflections.
If the Earth is a Spinning/moving Globe, then we'd have to account for it, please come up with one thing on Earth where we have to account for curvature and one thing on Earth where we have to account for Earth's spin/movement?
29 Oct 2021 21:27:45
TJ70 I would be interested in your evidence or source that the moon is a light source? Because the moon is a massive rock like the earth. The reason why the sun gives us light is because it is undergoing a fusion reaction and the results of that reaction is photons getting emitted.
If you want to get technical, everything does give of light, but not visible light. Any blackbody that has heat emits electromagnetic radiation. For humans, we emit light in the infrared spectrum, which is why thermal imaging works on people. The higher the temperature, the higher the frequency.
In other words, the moon gives off low energy light but the moon is not nearly hot enough to emit visible light. The material on the lunar surface reflect the light from the sun to shine.
{Ed033's Note - Been pointed out on here before, If the Moon is reflecting light, and it's a ball. Why is there no hotspot?
However to get some true science going, we might first want to measure the Lux or Lumens being outputted from the Moon?
29 Oct 2021 23:03:33
Yes ed33, like I though, your confused and don't understand the inverse law of light. Put your hand 5 inches In front of you. Now double the distance away from you. It doesn't get 50% dimmer does it.
Like I said, were seeing the entire moon face reflecting, not a small patch.
You're just a little bit confused about the law. I can recommended some good books on them if you're interested. Seems a bit advanced for you.
{Ed033's Note - My hand is not a source of light i can see and if you hadn't noticed the entire moon face only lights up at a Full Moon.
At least we now know for sure, you don't know anything and have resorted to trolling nonsense with everything you type by your responses to people's posts.
29 Oct 2021 23:30:52
Tj70 you didn't pay attention in your degree then if you still think the moon's a light source. You learn that very, very early in life.
30 Oct 2021 07:32:32
If the Moon is reflecting light, and it's a ball. Why is there no 'hotspot'?
{Ed033's Note - Excellent point.
30 Oct 2021 11:45:49
If you want to hear decent info about flat earth
Don't Google it
Find Dave Weiss interviews,
Or Eric Dubay has some good points.
Dave Murphy is another.
Even years back math Powerland or whatever he likes to call himself has a mad perspective used to paint globe before CGI composition.
Flat earth map is in a lot of NWO organisation logos or insignia.
Masonic symbols say same also.
And yes as others have said
There is no hotspot on moon and the faces do not indicate a ball.
But if u go to these so call scientific talk
Its because moon isn't smooth as to why no heat spot of light .
30 Oct 2021 11:48:31
People that look into flat earth and such.
Are questioning there reality they are taught because senses tell different.
Don't make that group out to be stupid.
Ignorance is stupidity.
30 Oct 2021 13:01:47
I believe I don't exist according to flat earth. Or am I on the other side of the flat earth? Poor Australia.
30 Oct 2021 15:54:18
David, the moon is not a rock as you describe, even if we could reach it we couldn't land on it anyway. Its light is measurably colder than its surrounds as opposed to the suns light which is measurably warmer than the surrounding shade.
No one in the true flat earth community has ever said that the sun or moon is just 4 miles above us, you are picking a figure to suit your argument.
Standard, of course I used to believe the moon reflected the suns light just as I used to believe the other nonsense that you still cling to. The difference is that you and David are still in denial about the true nature of existence.
31 Oct 2021 20:18:24
I assume everyone knows what a sextant is?
Now when these are used to sail the seas people get to where they want to go as they are incredible pieces of old world tech.
When they are used to measure the Sun and the Moons location, they appear to be about 32 miles wide and around 3000/ 3500 miles away.
How can that be?