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23 Feb 2020 09:36:10
Ed, have you heard of the 'Phantom Time Hypothesis'?

I have not done much of my own research on it yet, but it does seem to at least relate to some of the posts you have made on hidden history and the Tartarian times.

There are a few videos I glanced at but I didn't feel worthy of posting.

I'll look into it more tomorrow.

{Ed033's Note - yes i've heard of it, didn't get round to looking at it as yet. The theory is around 300 years made up and added in, which i think is correct, but there's more to it.

Did you watch the video i posted a whie back:

Prof. Dr. Gunnar Heinsohn explains his theory on the missing 700 years of the first millennium AD. He also states there was a catastrophe that caused mass floods!

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23 Feb 2020 18:06:46
If what Gunnar Heinsohn said is true, which considering him being a professor emeritus of University of Bremen, is very likely. Then it makes perfect sense to me.

It's a simple concept but the fact that these layers are on the same level, says everything. Then you have the buildings / art etc all looking the same.

What is it they are so scared of people knowing by adding in seven centuries? . Or is it something to do with hiding the true date?

Its a shame Gunnar didn't release some books in English. His concept is straightforward, easy to understand and research compared to the crazy complex studies of Fomenko.

There doesn't appear to be anything more in English from Gunnar either in video or book, but if you happen to see anymore, I'd be interested to watch / read.

I guess I could try and find a PDF of one of his books and use Google translator.

23 Feb 2020 03:15:58
Watch the horizon in first part of the 'space jump'

Oh and apparently there is one massive continent on part of what u can see of earth.

{Ed033's Note - Thanks southampton, It's all distorted because they used the fish eye lens to make the earth look curved.

Yes, the horizon looks concave at:
32 seconds

Why do they feel the need to use the fish eye lenses?

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23 Feb 2020 13:57:00
I think in my opinion they do it for the illusion of height and curve
I mean they say u got to be so high to see curve and the fish eye lense assist them with this.
I also watch a interesting YouTube video going into the shape of our eyes and how this makes us see curve
The way we do .

{Ed033's Note - I guess we have a lens in our eyes that distorts everything differently to the way it is.

23 Feb 2020 14:28:54
Yes it does seem that way ed33,
from bits and pieces I've seen on the subject.
who knows that's what makes it interesting.

22 Feb 2020 23:22:58

What's the explanation for the publication of the data from Voyager 1 when it left the Heliosphere?

{Ed033's Note - I wonder whether Voyager 1 was sent past the Antarctic Ice Wall towards any worlds beyond the Antarctic Ice Wall.

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22 Feb 2020 13:32:04
Rockets cannot work in the vacuum of Outer Space because there is nothing there to push against:

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22 Feb 2020 17:45:10
According to this experiment, they do. Rockets in a Vacuum Chamber - Newton's third law of motion Visualized

{Ed033's Note - Hi Southern Monkey, when he says vacuum, he doesn't mean Outer Space vacuum, which is allegedly something like 1x10 to minus 13 Torr. On the Moon the alleged vacuum is 1x10 to minus 11 Torr.

On Earth there are a couple of medium vacuum chambers at 1 x 10 to minus 6 Torr and there is only 1 vacuum chamber that is at 1 x 10 to minus 8 Torr and that is as far as they can go with current technology.

Earth's atmosphere is around 740 Torr apparently from memory.

This guy is removing a few particles with his vacuum pump, so there is still loads of particles in there to push off.

But remember there may not be an actual outer space if the Firmament is real and is the reason for them not being able to go beyond 'low Earth orbit'.

22 Feb 2020 20:21:42
Can you imagine sending astronauts to the Moon with an alleged 1x10 to minus 11 Torr and not even being able to test whether they can handle being in a 1x10 to minus 11 Torr vacuum?

Apparently only 1 guy in a space suit has ever been in a 1x10 to minus 6 Torr vacuum chamber and he was in there for 2 seconds before passing out and they had to get him out. He said that just before passing out, he could feel the moisture on his tongue boiling.

22 Feb 2020 21:01:32
If space is a near perfect vacuum like they tell us.
Rockets would have nothing to thrust against.
That's if were understanding a vacuum correct.
But for these test to be correct the vacuum has to be same as space.
The area and vehicle would have to be sized to that of the real environment and thrust.
Or your actually testing something other than operating a rocket in space.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, this is not how a rocket would operate in the alleged vacuum of alleged outer space. In addition he's not opearating this rocket at the alleged extreme temperatures of alleged outer space.

22 Feb 2020 21:14:18
Jim Le Blanc was the astronaut in the vacuum chamber, but it was apparently an airline that had come loose on his suit which caused him to depressurise. That's what we are told anyway.

I don't know about the rockets not working in a vacuum. The way I am visualising it, is the force of the rocket has to push out of the rocket to escape, therefore there is no external pushing forces needed. the escaping rocket flame is just the burning fuel escaping after it has 'pushed' itself out of the rocket.

I maybe totally wrong. But if say it was an motorised fan which was used as the propeller, and does need an external pushing force, then I would agree it would not work in space.

{Ed033's Note - But if something was loose on his suit, why not try with another suit?

To me, they know that the space suits can't handle even a medium vacuum, that's why no one else has ever gone into a medium vacuum chamber.

Remember the LEM allegedly leaving the Moon, it just floated upwards.

22 Feb 2020 21:57:43
They have allegedly tested the Apollo in a vacuum chamber. I believe the same chamber Le Blanc was in.

I am not saying there isn't fakery, Ed. You know I don't believe we have been to the Moon.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.

22 Feb 2020 22:02:28
You are probably right in saying space suits can not handle being in a vacuum.

The BBC faked a vacuum experiment with James May, I don't know if you have seen this.

This is a clip from the BBC. There are 2 people inside the vacuum chamber with James May and they only have overalls and oxygen masks on. Everything else is exposed to the vacuum.

What was it that happens to exposed parts of the body in a vacuum?

Pure fakery, mate.

{Ed033's Note - No haven't seen it thanks.

22 Feb 2020 22:25:03
Hi Ed just used the link from the Everton banter page didn’t know any of this stuff was here. To the point in hand, firstly I know nothing about space or vacuums or what Torr is yet there a few things that immediately spring to mind .

A. If there is nothing for rockets to push against to move through space how and why do planets orbit the the stars/ suns surely in a such a vacuum nothing would move yet orbits occur and and as a result of said movement there must be a disturbance of the vacuum thus causing a path within the vacuum. The word vacuum itself implies an absence of anything, yet within space there is stuff such as meteors, comets, Satelite’s, space junk etc,

B, each body within the galaxy has a magnetic/ gravitational pull / field and while not visible with the eye are proven to exist therefore with space flight the lunar missions use the gravitational pull of earth and the Moon and their orbits of the earth and moon to achieve breakaway and landing thus providing a force to push against which in turn cause movement as in Newton’s law equal and opposite motion .
And C if a vacuum exists how does the sun warm or illuminate our planet as surely the heat would remain around the sun as the heat of the tea doesn’t heat the outside of your flask.

And D, How does Riquelme get spotted in so many different locations at the same time on transfer deadline day without the ability to move at the speed of light which we know is proven yet couldn’t in a vacuum of nothingness,

it is my conclusion that it’s all a load of bollocks that no one is even close to understanding and it is easier to find reasons why the lunar landings were allegedly faked than except that it just does exist like my unicorn and ability to do magic
I must sign off as I’m due in the electro therapy room
Big C.

{Ed033's Note - A. planets don't orbit the the stars. Planets are wandering luminaries in the Firmament.

B. There is no 'galaxy'. There are luminaries in the Firmament. No rocket or space shuttle can 'orbit' the Earth because the Earth is not a sphere or 'orbit' the Moon because the Moon we see in our reality is possibly a projection.

C. Outer Space doesn't exist and therefore the Outer space vacuum doesn't exist. The Sun in our reality is also possibly a projection.

The Sun and Moon are physical either in or above the Firmament.

Yes, your conclusion of mainstream space science being bull is correct.

22 Feb 2020 22:39:43
And it is probably a case of 'no one knows' if a rocket can work in space or not. I can not find one bit of rocket launch 'external camera' footage that goes beyond 70 - 100 miles up, then it always cuts off or goes to a cartoon.

If someone has seen any footage past this point, please post it here, thanks. And Apollo footage is fake, so don't bother posting low Earth orbit window pics :)

70-100 miles. Wouldn't that be around the height of the starting point/ edge of the 'dome' 'waters above' firmament', Ed?

{Ed033's Note - I'm not sure where the Firmament starts 70 - 100 miles above Earth maybe about right. I would imagine any 'footage' would be CGI.

23 Feb 2020 02:59:16
Sm from what i think I learnt,
On earth the rockets thrust hits our atmosphere and this is what propels the rocket along.
But In a vacuum the energy of thrust would disappear in the vacuum of space.

24 Feb 2020 00:21:37
I may not be right, Southampton, but I think you are incorrect. Sorry :)

A rocket is basically a controlled explosion over a period of time.

To me the force is happening inside the rocket as the fuel escapes, it doesn't need the escaping fuel to push on something to make it move because there are internal forces at play, which make the rocket move.

Remember that we are told space is a vacuum. A vacuum will not hinder the result of internal forces and this will create a directional movement directly related to where the force originated. Therefor a controlled forward movement in relation to a rocket.

24 Feb 2020 09:46:01
No problem SM
Nothing wrong with being put right mate

22 Feb 2020 00:24:05
There seems to be a lot of talk of the world not being round. That may have been tongue in cheek but was hard to gauge. I mean, it definitely is. Be a bit odd if everything visible in space was round except our earth.

{Ed033's Note - If people were to watch all the videos of the last 8 pages of this site, they would have an idea of what i'm saying here.

So Obama, Trump and I've heard 2 people who are pretending to be astronauts on the International Space Station say that we are stuck in 'low Earth orbit'. This 'low Earth orbit' is apparently up to 350 miles above Earth. The problem with this is the Moon is allegedly around 225,000 miles from Earth, so if they got to the Moon, it must be within 350 miles of the Earth?

Also, why would they be limited to a maximum 350 miles away from Earth?

They are saying that outer space is a vacuum, the problem with this is that it's physically impossible to have the alleged vacuum of outer space directly next to Earth's atmosphere.

If there is a vacuum of outer space, then Earth would have to be inside a pressurised container. Is it possible then that the Crystal Firmament is the top part of the container?

If the Crystal Firmament is blocking us from going beyond it, then the, stuck in 'low Earth orbit' makes sense.

Now what about the stars and the planets? If we realise that under the inverse square law of light that it would be physically impossible to see any star that is light years away from us, then it makes sense that they are much closer and likely to be within the Firmament.

If the Firmament is real and the 'stars' and 'planets' are luminaries within the Firmament then there maybe no actual Outer Space, as we don't know what is beyond the Firmament.

If people are into astrology and think the planets and stars have some sway over us, wouldn't it make more sense if they were close to us. How can anything light years away from us have any affect on us?

Putting this together, the Earth is a realm fixed in place, doesn't move, doesn't rotate and above it are the Sun, Moon, and Luminaries.

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22 Feb 2020 13:48:23
Perhaps 350 miles is the distance to which the earth's gravitational pull has an effect on the space station.

I have zero belief in astrology, just as much truth in tea leaves.

{Ed033's Note - What those 4 were saying is that none of the space agencies can send rockets or Space Shuttles past 350 miles out from Earth.

22 Feb 2020 15:53:05
Hi. I also do not believe in the flat earth idea. Peoples beliefs are their own choice but I think it is disingenuous to claim proofs that are in fact nothing of the sort. A few points. None of those quoted suggested we could not leave low earth orbit. In fact Trump has announced NASA returning to the moon and plans for Mars. Obama was behind deep space unmanned missions. No one has returned to the moon on a manned mission due to cost and because we have been there and have no reason to return. The inverse square of light explains how and why we do see stars, not that it is impossible to do so. Our eyes only need to pick up 1 proton for the light to be visible. We can only see 9000 of the 300 billion stars in the Milky Way with our naked eye and the inverse law is the explanation for this. If the earth is flat then how can I see the sun rise and set over the ocean, moving in and out of view? And if the earth was flat and I looked out at empty ocean from the west coast of a USA or south coast of Australia then surely I would see the Antarctic Ice walls apparently surrounding us?

{Ed033's Note - I'm not expecting anyone to go from mainstream to where this site is now without people going step by step by watching the videos posted on here over the last 8 pages.

So, they have stated that there is a reason to go back to the Moon, to mine minerals such as Helium 3, and the profits would offset the cost.

Yes, we can see luminaries that people call stars with our naked eyes, i'm saying they're hundreds of miles way at most in the Firmament not light years away.

The sun doesn't rise and set over the ocean, it moves away from you until you can't see it and then moves towards you until you can see it. You would need to watch 1 or more videos about it.

We can only see so far over the ocean with our naked eyes. If you use a zoom camera you can see further, if you use a zoom camera with infra red, you can see even further, but there is a limitation due to stuff in the air such as debris, water vapour, physical atmosphere and perspective; as you look further the way we see with perspective, so much visible info is crammed into a small amount of space, that you can't determine what you're seeing.

Nowadays we have zoom cameras that can see objects that should be hidden by hundreds of feet of curvature. That is a serious dent in the Globe model of Earth.

Never been beyond 'Low Earth Orbit' NASA, ISS and Obama examples from 2016:

22 Feb 2020 19:54:08
Of course the world is round! I thought you guys were joking. No offence intended, its up to you. But weathermen and women show us satellite pictures all day every day. It's how we knew about storm Dennis. They don't always get it right, but they're not bad. The strength of telescopes is a mathematical science, you can literally pay to go and see for yourself, things that are hundreds of thousands of miles away.

Nothing will sway me from the knowledge that the earth is spherical. Because something is written on the Internet, doesn't make it true.
Virgin are already readying space tourism.

And what is proffesor Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore about? Are they agents of darkness spreading lies about the nature of reality? Or are they highly educated men, who have studied for years and years. What possible reason would there be for such an in depth conspiracy.

And I refuse to believe coxy is a liar. His enthusiasm is infectious and many people watch him just for that reason.

Go on Google earth. Keep heading east or west, doesn't matter, you will end up in the same spot.

Sometimes you can focus so strongly on a small part of the jigsaw that you miss the big picture.

Religion, or Christianity at any rate, once ruled the Western world. Its answers to the mystery of life was so appealing that people still believe it in the 21st century. But it was toppled by the world being round.

It proved that heaven and hell were not physically possible. There are so many sites where you can zoom out from you current position and see the earth as round.

If we can see stars that are millions of miles away, billions. Then how is it that we can't see the sun when it's a few thousand miles away.

I know you guys don't care, and I'm sure you have discovered the odd conspiracy out there. But anyone who thinks the world is flat is literally mental. I'm really sorry to say it. This stuff is interesting.

And why are there thousands of images of the spherical earth and none of this flat existence. You know there's no up and down in space? That's a product of gravity.

Sometimes it feels like this is the main problem flat earthers have. An inability to think in the abstract. As if this is the centre of the universe (it is if you believe in infinity)

{Ed033's Note - If you watch the videos over the last 8 pages, you can comprehend why i say the following things (doesn't mean what i say below is 100% accurate):

Yes, the world is probably round, but not a sphere.

All satellites are attached to high altitude balloons, there are no satellites orbiting the Globe.

No satellite has given a whole picture of the Earth. A satellite can only photo small strips of Earth and then they use Photoshop to put the strips together and wrap them round an imaginary globe. No satellite attached to a high altitude helium balloon can go high enough up to take a whole picture of the Earth.

There is probably no such thing as hundreds of thousands of miles above Earth as the Firmament is as far as there is.

This site is here for people to learn new things, if you're not on here to learn, why are you here? This is not a competition site i.e. mainstream vs this site.

Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore they repeat(ed) mainstream science stuff and get/got paid for it.

Stars aren't light years away, they are a few hundred miles away at most in the Firmament.

The reason for such an in depth conspiracy is because there is a huge difference between thinking you're an insignificant nothing in a huge universe as opposed to being extremely significant and living inside a wondrous creation.

22 Feb 2020 19:58:01
In my opinion,
When I look at stars I see a weird shape light even in telescope.
Not a ball.
And the moon is a round object that doesn't have a spot of intense light, like a ball does with a light shined on it and light tapering away to edges.
Only place I see a perfect ball is in space books and T.v but its cgi.
And the space station should be called atmosphere station lol.
Well it's not in space is it?

{Ed033's Note - The people acting on the ISS are not in space. All the lady actors On the ISS have to take a load of hairspray with them to pretend they're in zero gravity.

Yes when you zoom into stars you see this type of thing in the following video. Each star is different.

22 Feb 2020 22:44:55
Hi Ed, I have an unproven theory but that may make sense if you think about it it may explain all your questions. If you think of the earth as a multi layered infinite flat disc or oemebus (spelling) loop with our reality existing within our time frame and each layer an infinite reality you can therefore see as far as you need with your zoom lens, and also explains the existence of ghosts the Loch Ness monster and big foot, they all exist but on another reality. If you think about the cartoon movement by the quick flicking of the pages then the image you see is whole and moving but in reality is multiple stationary realities but existing together as a single entity.
I hope that helps you understand the universe
Big C.

22 Feb 2020 23:59:50
If it helps further think of the old paper Christmas decorations that you buy as a flat semicircle but when you open it it forms a sphere of layers of paper all connected think of that but with infinite number of layers all separate but connected each with the earth as many see it on each side of the paper ie flat maps each running at their own time in history or future or present, then think of the multipaged pad with the cartoon of the one image moving but stationary on each page then think what happens when pages flick slower so the images get merged or conversely when a number of pages stick together and the image jumps from one view to another and apply that to the Christmas decoration of the earth, ghosts and the Loch Ness monster are thus explained By the slow flicking and earthquakes and extreme weather by the pages stuck together .

23 Feb 2020 15:16:59
Big c
Lol what a load of waffle.
At least put an a fake terror attack in there.
And what did u stick your pages together with! ?

Sorry u get so wound up by the flat earth conspiracy dude.
But when u actually look at the evidence that can not be messed with.
That this place ain't muffin shaped but, a perfect ball u see in images
That ain't cgi.
There not much left
Anyway people can speak or question what they like without someone jumping in with stick tabs .
Take it easy.

23 Feb 2020 21:04:47
Hi Southampton I was putting forward an alternative reality and if one is valid then all must be until proven otherwise, I like my theory of infinite flat discs each belonging to a different time and if you think about it, it would meet with your flat earth theory but also proffers an opportunity to move through time and would make ghosts and people seeing Victorian streets Scenes in Liverpool Bold Street.
Also if you haven’t read the Long Earth by terry pratchett I would recommend giving it a go
Big C.

23 Feb 2020 23:20:48

23 Feb 2020 23:23:18
Alright big c.

If I come across evidence to back your theory ill post it .
Till then ill read the long earth.

24 Feb 2020 00:24:42
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. " - Nikola Tesla.

24 Feb 2020 08:29:07
Hi again Southampton just a follow on firstly the long earth by prattchet is a work of fiction but isn’t all fiction twists and based on reality whatever that is . Also search time slip Liverpool bold street by Tom Slemen, who has collected a number of accounts of this phenomenon. Anyway hope you in enjoy the book . Keep your mind open
Big C.

21 Feb 2020 07:43:26
Was the Ionosphere invented to try to explain Marconi's 2135 mile first transatlantic radio signal that was considered impossible due to the alleged curvature of the Earth?

And how do you bounce signals off of air in the part of the atmosphere they call the Ionosphere? It would at least make more sense to say we can bounce signals off the crystal Firmament.

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21 Feb 2020 18:56:34
For the signal to be constant u would assume it would have to hit something more than atmosphere.

{Ed033's Note - yes that's what i would have thought, but the mainstream science are saying they bounce signals off thin air in the sky in this made up region called ionosphere?

But if you don't have the curvature of the Earth, then over the flat ocean, you can send the signals without bouncing off anything because you have straight line of sight.

Over land is different as you have the petrified fauna and flora (hills and mountains), slag heaps and volcanos in the way of straight line of sight signals. So overland, do they bounce some signals off satellites attached to high altitude balloons or do they bounce some signals off the Crystal Firmament?

21 Feb 2020 20:32:27
Agree land is a total different ball game because of what u have listed.
In regards to the ocean u would have to take into account size of waves above sea level I would guess.
In regards to the satellites I can only see them working as a ballon type configuration.

{Ed033's Note - yeah, but if you have transmission stations high above sea level, that should take care of waves on a normal day.

21 Feb 2020 20:35:52
That video posted the other day from above the storm was something to see.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, it actually may have shown us the Firmament.

21 Feb 2020 22:09:30
Yes that is realistic,
If u go above wave height there should be no obstructions to stop a signal being sent straight across.

And to me when I see that video I looked as though a jelly fish type shape appeared after the lighting lol.
Unless that was some sort of pixel mix up on my device.

{Ed033's Note - It could have been some kind of plasma or electrical or electro magnetic event.

22 Feb 2020 00:19:09
Surely even across the Atlantic ocean the curvature of the earth plays a big part.
We all know the world is a sphere right?

{Ed033's Note - It appears it can't be proven to be a sphere and all observations seem to show it's not a sphere. Before the early 1900s, it was taught in schools that the Earth was flat. Wherever has anbody observed curved water?

23 Feb 2020 11:02:11
The miniscus on top of an over full glass, raindrops,

20 Feb 2020 21:07:45
YT is throwing up some random videos, of late.

Not watch the whole video, but it made me laugh because its 2020 and I still get dead mobile signal most of the time.

{Ed033's Note - For all we know, this was part of them, back engineering technology left behind by the Tartarians?

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20 Feb 2020 21:49:38
Just watched the whole video, and they have a mobile signal, with out satellites?

Signal all the time? on a 'FLAT' plane?


This is from a VT when 'THEY' had no concept of 'NOW'.

Would the propaganda be different if they knew what was ahead of them (If they were able to 'see' 'now' 'then') would the narrative change?

Maybe not 'back engineering'. But trying to understand the old ways? . (the more advanced ways? ) .

Amongst other things, WWII seemed to be a 'genius' grab, did it not? .

{Ed033's Note - ok, understanding the old advanced ways.

Operation Paperclip = 'genius' grab?

21 Feb 2020 00:26:46
In my opinion think they still use telephone masts in triangle patterns, you know them ones there still obsessed about putting up.
The police tetra radio goes dead in estates where they have a lot of blocks because that signal is on lamppost's and so on. But is meant to be satellite.

If they trace your phone its done by triangulating location through mast.
They do have satellite phones apparently but ours do not operate Like that.
or it wouldn't matter if u was in middle of a field if signal was up in space.
UK is a small country a satellite can or should be able to cover the whole country no problem not like were aus or usa.

But u get no signal in high built areas.
Russia even threatened to cut under sea cables, if obsolete wouldn't matter surely .
Also why are satellite dishes not pointed at the sky .
Egyptians could apparently communicate long distance using some sort of contraption.

Ww2 was for Churchill a big money maker. the banks gained mass profit.
USA gained scientists. everyone else was part of a sacrifice depopulation.
Satellites for something else or and propaganda.

{Ed033's Note - There are satellites, but they are attached to high altitude balloons and therefore float high up in the air. These high altitude balloons don't stay up at high altitude forever though.

I think that if you've heard of any interview from one of these people who think /are told they are part of an Outer Space Alien craft recovery team, they are actually part of a high altitude satellite recovery team. These teams need to get to the recovered satellite attached to the high altitude balloon that has fallen to Earth quickly otherwise their 'satellites orbiting the Earth' lie would be over.

21 Feb 2020 00:29:15
Also by the looks of it,
Ww2 was good to destroy the real meaning of what we look and see as a Swastika.
And destroy loads of old buildings history.

21 Feb 2020 08:26:47
Yes, they have to destroy the knowledge and physical evidence of the past. They don't want us knowing about the Atlanteans / Tartarians.

20 Feb 2020 19:12:54
How do i post a couple of photos ed?

{Ed033's Note - Upload them one at a time uing the Image upload form page

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20 Feb 2020 17:59:46
I haven't listened to this myself, but if you're interested here is The Iron Republic 'audio book' read on youtube.

The 'audiobook' is an allegedly factual account of Mr. E. W. Barrington's expedition in the late 1800s beyond Antarctica to a place called the Iron Republic.

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20 Feb 2020 20:23:49
Ed, this has 'FICTION' in the screenshot. Doesn't bode well.

Truth twisted with tales?

{Ed033's Note - it could be fiction, you can look up 'The Iron Republic' on a search engine to see if you might be interested before spending time with it.

19 Feb 2020 09:22:07
The Secret war: Antarctica Peace Treaty:

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19 Feb 2020 13:19:22
He's on the right track, but maybe trying to fit too much into one short segment. Not sure I see the link with Roswell. Never really believed the whole Roswell story tbh, but it's a great distraction.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, when we watch any videos we have to take bits and pieces from them that makes sense to us and reject the rest.

Is the Antarctic peace treaty an agreement between all groups in our world to guard against anything coming here from beyond the Antarctic ice wall and to guard against anything going from this world to beyond the Antarctic ice wall,

or is it an agreement with a group beyond the Antarctic ice wall?

19 Feb 2020 14:22:06
There's something going on there that they don't want us to know about. Big question is what?

My suspicion is that it is so big they believe it would cause widespread panic. Maybe it wouldn't though.

Everyone would realise they've been lied to and maybe that's the bigger problem. People would then start asking what else have they lied about.

Cue chaos.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, and why did those high level people go down there in a short period of time, like John Kerry and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill?

19 Feb 2020 16:23:50
I tried to find that video on yewtoob recently, but I couldn't find it. I think Prince William also went around that time, and Buzz Aldrin I think.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, I think Buzz Aldrin went, but had to come back pretty quickly as he had a health problem.

21 Feb 2020 22:15:55
I think in my opinion they probably found some proof of ancient civilisations Maybe advanced.
And if u think about when that place was last not frozen, it will knock there time and calendar side ways.

But no doubt they say it's to see damage of human made climate change lol.

{Ed033's Note - It's crazy how they can blame anything on 'climate change' and they get away with it because most people believe it.

19 Feb 2020 08:21:50
Tartarian Dna?

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18 Feb 2020 20:18:30
The Nuclear Scare Scam - nuclear physicist Galen Winsor

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19 Feb 2020 16:28:03
Thanks Southern Monkey, I saw a Galen Winsor video before, from what he says, it makes things make more sense.

18 Feb 2020 19:27:54
There was a video I watched, where they said they used genetically modified humans Japanese Kamikaze pilots, to fly experimental anti gravity craft to spy on usa.
And that was what crashed in Roswell.
Also that the writing on thin beams reported to be found was Japanese writing.

{Ed033's Note - Roswell wasn't Aliens from Outer Space, but they have to spin everything to get us to believe in the spinning globe and that outer space is real.

The Tartarians used electric powered zeppelin/dirigibles to fly to each country. They would dock at high buildings. The Tartarians built the Empire State building for docking for example.

It's possible that the Hindenburg disaster was purposely designed by the current satanic/luciferean elite that took over from the Tartarians, to stop the worldwide powered zeppelin/dirigible travel, as the satanic/luciferean wanted to move to a slave system and away from the 'free energy' for all Tartarian system.

A lot of the technology we have today is either directly from copying the Tartarian technology or back engineering the Tartarian technology.

What happened to the Tartarians? Was there a catastrophe that caused a reset?

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18 Feb 2020 20:34:58
Just how u manage to store so much info and remember it is amazing Ed.
To be truthful I need to look into tartarians.
But agree they use everything they can to back or further cement there agendas info.

{Ed033's Note - I have posted several Tartarian videos over the past 3 months.

18 Feb 2020 20:49:31
I will look back though archive Ed 33 to catch up.
Thanks again.

19 Feb 2020 12:35:13
So Ed033, would it be fair to say what people speak of as Atlantis
Would be the same as Tartarian-Atlanteans?

Just covering Because in the Atlantis story is of Martians destroy there culture home and identity.

{Ed033's Note - Asking questions is all good.

I'm now of the opinion there are no physical Aliens visiting us from Outer Space (because we seem to be living in a closed system and don't even know if there is an Outer Space beyond the Crystal Firmament), but there could easily be other worlds beyond Antarctica (as the Earth continues beyond the Antarctic ice wall) that could contain intelligent beings or other lifeforms. They could be called Extra terra (terra = Earth) beings or Extra terrestrials.

That would mean 'Martians' could of come from beyond the Antarctic ice wall.

Yes, it's possible that the Tartarians were what was left of the Atlanteans.

19 Feb 2020 21:24:30
Admiral bird said there was a continent beyond Antarctica.
yes that was what I thought it to mean .
martians as being like an illegal alien as used to be used in america.
Before political correctness.

18 Feb 2020 15:17:01
Newspaper April 1900 - Sir John Gorst (then Head of the British Education Department) "may be thrown into prison" for saying that the Earth is round.

"Its seems that the schools of Portsmouth have been teaching the damnable and heretical doctrine that the Earth is a sphere".

For the rest, read the fourth column on the page:

Cook County Herald April 21 1900

{Ed033's Note - A sphere you say, where's the evidence for Earth being a sphere? :)

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18 Feb 2020 17:25:38
Space is like religious beliefs.
They give u cgi and a story,
U just have to put your faith in them that its true or there.

Flat earth theory is one of them that opens your eyes.
Or makes you at least question what u thought u knew.

18 Feb 2020 17:27:35
Was southampton87
Couldn't log back in sorry.

{Ed033's Note - No problem, southampton

18 Feb 2020 18:23:46
Thanks ed33.

18 Feb 2020 07:46:28
Do we see the Firmament in this video from 11:00 onwards?

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18 Feb 2020 10:45:54
Very compelling presentation, but I wish he and others would use the word proof a bit more judiciously. Strong evidence and proof are not the same thing.

{Ed033's Note - Good point Rian.

18 Feb 2020 12:18:39
I really like it though :)

I had a look on yewtoob, and the first comment made me chuckle;

"Look, if you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you're stupid. Did you hear that? -stupid. "

Quote from Arthur Sylvester, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, 1965.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly, William Casey, CIA Director said in his first staff meeting in 1981:
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.

18 Feb 2020 14:45:58
So its not possible for a fisheye lens to turn a curve, flat? . Interesting. Has anyone got a Fisheye to test this? Sadly, I haven't.

With the atmospheric lensing, the MS say that when you see the Sun set. The Sun has already gone behind the curvature of the Earth and it is the atmosphere bending light around the Earth, so that we can see it.

Now, in this video the atmosphere is explained to get denser, so you can only see up to a certain point, regardless of apparatus.

I can think of a way to test either without being on an Earth size scale. I know light can be bent through water. And rainbows are always curved (which is probably due to water droplets being round) . Any help on this?

I did watch a video where several sunsets were filmed and a line was drawn following the path of the sunset. You would expect the lines to be curved if the Earth is rotating round the Sun, whilst spinning at 1000mph. But they were all straight lines.

{Ed033's Note - The problem we have with trying to do any experiments is if you try to talk to someone with specific knowledge in any area, as soon as they think you're going outside of the mainstream, they'll back away from you.

Didn't you have this before with the engineer?

18 Feb 2020 17:12:33
Always found flat earth to be interesting topic.
Just opens your eyes to quite a lot that you would just not normally question,
Because what we have been taught as a fact
Not as best theory .
Used to be Southampton 87.

{Ed033's Note - Wow, welcome back southampton

18 Feb 2020 17:49:29
Yeah sorry, Ed. I forgot my opinion is worthless because I haven't been 'schooled'.

18 Feb 2020 18:22:58
Cheers ed33
I've always looked in just not posted for awhile.

{Ed033's Note - Right, thanks for posing again.

18 Feb 2020 19:03:06
Yes Sm
there was a vid also.
That was part of operation fish bowl
Were u could see explosions the same shape as if it hit something.

{Ed033's Note - operation fish bowl was a series of high-altitude nuclear 'tests'. It's likely that they were actually trying to crack the crystal Firmament.

18 Feb 2020 19:30:33
The footage above is from this video. Gives some more details for those interested.

Operation Fishbowl video

18 Feb 2020 19:24:48
Nuking The Dome - Military Nuclear Tests Blast The Dome Firmament

18 Feb 2020 19:33:46
This is s repost from a few weeks back, but seems relevant.

Rockets Hitting God's Crystal Firmament Above Our Heads

18 Feb 2020 19:38:48
This is the article quoted:

Earth's Plasma Shield

18 Feb 2020 20:39:59
Some serious time spent truth seeking SM.
Fair play,
Yes nuking the dome was the video SM.
And yes that would be fair to assume they were trying to hit something Ed33.

18 Feb 2020 22:38:13
It's amazing the inspiration you get to search that little bit harder, when you have, had your eyes truly opened, Southampton. I have the honourable Ed033 to thank for that.

I think you should read from latish November, on this site, to see my journey down the rabbit hole.

Though, I have always been a 'truther'. I never really, realised just how asleep I was.

I guess it was a case of asking all the 'wrong' questions. Because you still get answers to 'wrong' questions, but they don't show you the truth. Exactly how the 'elite' want it.

19 Feb 2020 10:12:17
It's true u get a Hunger for more info, not only that things seem to make a bit more sense as to how or why something operates as it does.

I think ed33 speaks truth and gives us knowledge to most that come here, and has contributed a lot of time to this site and us.

I'm going to look through the last few months to see what I have missed.
Cheers Sm.

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